Censored Sprite Ad...
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what the hell is that. i'm not gonna drink that by the way such strong teeth i guess she eat IRON and METAL
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Aud1o Blood wrote...
I have a problem with censorship in general. I believe that parents should exercise discresion in what their children watch. The network is not responsible for what happens to children.Agreed to the max.
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razama wrote...
Well that assumes that a parent will sit there the entire time that a child is watching Tv. And that the child doesn't watch Tv without a parents permission.Oh well. It's still the parent's problem. Also, aren't we technologically advanced enough to program our cable box to block channels with a certain rating? Hmm. Even if not all people have this feature, it's still the parent's problem. I don't see why everyone has to care about other people's children.
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Beside they shouldn't use this as a commercial because there's kids watching.
what if they saw that commercial of course first they would ask some Question Second they would Imitate it and that's the beginning of new problem creating an innocent incest. Think about it Is it wise to do this commercial of course there's nothing to censored it but the thing they doing do they have to post this on public Television because the Adult's aren't the only one who watching TV there's a Innocent Kids who watching too.
what if they saw that commercial of course first they would ask some Question Second they would Imitate it and that's the beginning of new problem creating an innocent incest. Think about it Is it wise to do this commercial of course there's nothing to censored it but the thing they doing do they have to post this on public Television because the Adult's aren't the only one who watching TV there's a Innocent Kids who watching too.
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Tsurayu wrote...
That's too idealistic. You are limited. You can't go around saying "I'm going to assassinate the President" to a Secret Service individual a not expect to be taken into custody. Freedom of Speech does not include libel.
My interpretation of the freedom of speech stops at inciting violence, actually committing violence or threatening to commit violence. Saying you'll kill the president falls under that definition.
I could call the president every insult and racial slur and it would be protected as I am not doing any of the above. If a radio host or other public figure said "I wish somebody would kill/remove/deal with person X" then that wouldn't be protected.
As far as slander is concerned it's too vague of a idea to censor it. Would the thrashing Palin got about her daughter during the 2008 election count as slander? Or does slander apply on a lower level like dissing someone in a blog? Would Perez Hilton's little spat with Miss California count as slander of her character?
Censoring what people can say is a dangerous idea.
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Rbz wrote...
razama wrote...
Well that assumes that a parent will sit there the entire time that a child is watching Tv. And that the child doesn't watch Tv without a parents permission.Oh well. It's still the parent's problem. Also, aren't we technologically advanced enough to program our cable box to block channels with a certain rating? Hmm. Even if not all people have this feature, it's still the parent's problem. I don't see why everyone has to care about other people's children.
The television isn't a substitute for involved parenting. If it wasn't used as such--then there wouldn't be 94% of the issues "caused" by it.
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Aud1o Blood wrote...
That doesn't assume anythingIt does assume that the parents are doing something about it.
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I wonder if a parent of kids would get a shotgun/whatever gun and shoot the first sprite bottle/can they see after watching this.
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I've found something interesting. While we talk about sex censorship, beating the shit out of people and bleeding everywhere is perfectly fine on T.V. right? Weird shit.
Fun shit, huh folks.
Spoiler:
Fun shit, huh folks.
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Rbz wrote...
razama wrote...
Well that assumes that a parent will sit there the entire time that a child is watching Tv. And that the child doesn't watch Tv without a parents permission.Oh well. It's still the parent's problem. Also, aren't we technologically advanced enough to program our cable box to block channels with a certain rating? Hmm. Even if not all people have this feature, it's still the parent's problem. I don't see why everyone has to care about other people's children.
Yeah, I don't think that everyone has to worry about other peoples children either. And true, people can just get those tv guardians (though they don't work on images - only certain channels and language).
I am just saying that the thought that the ads will go away when parents start changing the channel because of offensive ads isn't a valid one.
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Rbz wrote...
I've found something interesting. While we talk about sex censorship, beating the shit out of people and bleeding everywhere is perfectly fine on T.V. right? Weird shit.Spoiler:
Fun shit, huh folks.
I do watch that show (all sorts of ways to kill someone, but don't think you'll get away with it that easily for the consequences! "Dying is easy, comedy is hard.") it's not a perfect world, but its our world we live in...
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I fail to see how the term "perfect" comes within light millenia of describing our little rock.
I got, at most, a raised eyebrow out of that commercial. It's just a literalization of "Sex Sells".
Period. That's it.
S'like RBZ said. It's an odd world where sex is viewed as the ultimate sin while taking a knife and an axe to a hooker's face is nothing more then camera material.
I got, at most, a raised eyebrow out of that commercial. It's just a literalization of "Sex Sells".
Period. That's it.
S'like RBZ said. It's an odd world where sex is viewed as the ultimate sin while taking a knife and an axe to a hooker's face is nothing more then camera material.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
That's too idealistic. You are limited. You can't go around saying "I'm going to assassinate the President" to a Secret Service individual a not expect to be taken into custody. Freedom of Speech does not include libel.
My interpretation of the freedom of speech stops at inciting violence, actually committing violence or threatening to commit violence. Saying you'll kill the president falls under that definition.
I could call the president every insult and racial slur and it would be protected as I am not doing any of the above. If a radio host or other public figure said "I wish somebody would kill/remove/deal with person X" then that wouldn't be protected.
As far as slander is concerned it's too vague of a idea to censor it. Would the thrashing Palin got about her daughter during the 2008 election count as slander? Or does slander apply on a lower level like dissing someone in a blog? Would Perez Hilton's little spat with Miss California count as slander of her character?
Censoring what people can say is a dangerous idea.
There are specific laws about what is and what is not slander that vary state to state. In any case where slander or libel is invloved, a jury of your peers will decide whether it broke the law or not.
And generally, slaner is just absolutely false stuff, anything mad up. Not you insulting someone or their beliefs. However, that raises the question: do hate crimes laws infringe upon freedom of speech when someone speaks against homosexuals/race/religion? If it does, then should we not have these laws agaist hate crimes? and if it doesn't, does that mean that you agree to censoring then?
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razama wrote...
do hate crimes laws infringe upon freedom of speech when someone speaks against homosexuals/race/religion? If it does, then should we not have these laws agaist hate crimes?Yes. Yes, we should not(speech only). If they want to hate on motherfuckers through speech, I say let them. Then we can exercise our freedom of speech by ridiculing the shit out of them.
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Rbz wrote...
Aud1o Blood wrote...
That doesn't assume anythingIt does assume that the parents are doing something about it.
Most kid's parents don't give two honest shits, censorship or no--these children will end up "exposed" to this crap.
Just about everyone else I grew up with got up every morning and went on their merry way, from birth to high school. They all turned out "fine", why would these kids be different?
The world is out there. Sitting around doing nothing has penalties, but maybe this will make it "real".
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razama wrote...
There are specific laws about what is and what is not slander that vary state to state. In any case where slander or libel is invloved, a jury of your peers will decide whether it broke the law or not.And generally, slander is just absolutely false stuff, anything made up. Not you insulting someone or their beliefs. However, that raises the question: do hate crimes laws infringe upon freedom of speech when someone speaks against homosexuals/race/religion? If it does, then should we not have these laws agaist hate crimes? and if it doesn't, does that mean that you agree to censoring then?
My stance remains at that the freedom of speech covers all speech unless you are committing violence, inciting violence or threatening violence. I do not believe in censoring speech as it would eventually lead to more censoring down the road. Today its slander, tomorrow its a negative comment about somebody that portrays somebody in a negative light.
As for hate crimes I think it's racist pure and simple. A group or groups of people are being treated differently based on the color of their skin. Lady justice is blind for a reason, she didn't care about your gender, orientation, race, etc. Sadly, we are far away from the vision of Dr. King when he wished for a colorblind society.