Defining indecency

Lazy Artist · 2011-07-20T11:51:55+00:00

Aright, heres the issue: I moved into this new house about 2 months ago. Around my house I like to be comfortable. which usually means I just walk around in my underwear and maybe a shirt(Its hot as hell here too, but I was doing this long before I moved here) if I feel like it. I dont bother my neighbors, or show off my body or anything like that, & to prevent there being any problems(And because Im lazy)I even wait until night to check my mailbox. Yesterday night however, I was dancing with my girlfriend in MY house in my underwear, when some a neighbor from across the street knocked on my door and told me that I have been overly indecent, and that I need to wear more clothes around the house. She went on to tell me that its not a good practice to check my mail at night and that taking my trash to the street the day before the trashmen come is also bad. She was going to continue but I blew up on her. I wont give the exact details of my verbal thrashing but she left in tears. Today my girlfriend told me that I was wrong for hurting her feelings and should apologize, which I refuse to do. I dont think any of what I do at my own house is any of my neighbors business, provided it doesnt affect them. And beyond that the only time should would have seen me in my underwear was the day I was dancing with my girlfriend, and thats just because I have one of those stupid glass doors that Im soon going to replace,and my girlfrind forgot to close the main door so to me unless she was spying through my windows or something she shouldnt have seen me more than once in my underwear. anyways Im posting this to see what you all think. Was I wrong? What do you think of this?

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Sesso Monarca

14 years ago

Laggi wrote...

Sesso Monarca wrote...

No shirt, No shoes, No service.

Don't be inconsiderate of those around you.

Close your binds if you are walking around half-naked in your house and don't walk outside half-naked.

Problem solved.

This is basically the same as if I was telling someone not to walk outside because he/she is so ugly that no one wants to see him/her.

Let's say for example someone who was in an accident and burned his/her whole face and does not look appealing to someone now.
They should not be outside at all because they would scare little kids etc.

That's just taking away people's freedom more than it is already being taken away.

Unless this dude has scars, burns, et cetera...Your bringing a totally different situation up.

If someone is uncomfortable with you walking around half-naked and wishes for you to stop because it makes them uncomfortable; put some clothes on, clothes your blinds, and avoid further conflict.

Sesso Monarca

14 years ago

Laggi wrote...

It's actually the same situation:

If a guy has his face full of scars and is losing an eye, losing hiw lower jaw or whatever. According to law, he is allowed to walk around without covering up his face, even if people are bothered by it.

The guy who walks around in his underwear is allowed to go wherever he pleases in his boxers, even if people are whining about it. As long as those underwear cover his genitals.
There's no law (atleast in Finland) saying that you need to wear shoes, a shirt and pants that cover your legs in order to walk outside. There's just a law saying that you are not allowed to expose your genitalia in public places.

You see people jogging around with only their shoes on, and shorts that are basically as tight as speedos.

Not to mention the guy was in his underwear IN HIS OWN HOUSE. Where the law saying you have to cover yourself up doesn't apply.

Edit: I'm not saying you shouldn't put on clothes when someone asks you to, ofcourse you can do that if you want to be nice to them or whatever, but you are under no obligation to actually obey them and do it.
If you wish to stay in your underwear and they're gonna call cops on you, just let them do it and get them fined for disturbing your privacy.

It's my point-of-view I guess.

I'd never expect someone to actually be such a douche to tell someone to cover up their face because they were an accident.

But, I find that putting some clothes on when going outside, and closing your blinds so no one sees you half-naked is the better thing to do than being an ass and not taking the other persons feelings into consideration.

However, It always depends on how that person approached you.

You are correct when you say they cannot do anything about it.

If they call the cops because you are walking outside in your underwear...that is a little ridiculous. Unless you are purposely trying to irk the lady who was bothered,and in that case, you are a douche.

All I can say is don't expect to have any fans in your neighborhood, haha.

Relione

14 years ago

As the "No pants subway ride" court case in New York City proved, even walking around in public in only your underwear is not legally considered indecent. So long as you are not showing so much of your body as to be considered obscene, then you are allowed to wear as little or much as you wish, both in public and in private. Furthermore, for what you are wearing, or not wearing, to be considered obscene, you would essentially have to be naked, or wearing a pretty ridiculously foul shirt of some kind.

LordKnoll

14 years ago

Your situation reminds me of a case in the US where a man was arrested for indecent exposure for being naked in his own house because he was seen by a trespasser. Your case isn't close to as bad but it's the same principle. It's a breach on your privacy.

Sprite

14 years ago

I see nothing wrong with bringing out the trash the night before the trashman comes. And my neighbors don't even exist to me. I never see them.

Rusty Hammer

14 years ago

Apologize for the manner in which you responded, but not for the subject matter.

to find out just how deep it runs with the rest of the hood, paint your house flourecent pink and orence stripes. put some horrible "art" on the front lawn.

if it is only the one neighboor, hire local hooligans to prank them. i suggest "the flood". the day before trash day, take their own garbage can, fill with water, and lean it against their front door. then, when they open the door, it will fall into their house, spilling wet garbage all over.

Lazy Artist

14 years ago

Thank you all once again. But I have already spoken with her again and we have come to an understanding.

She wont fuck with me anymore, and I can do whatever the Hell I want to around my own house. Happy End

(And before you get any weird ideas I was 120% civil aka being full o shit, but it seems the lady is afraid of me now after the initial volcanic explosion on her mind released from my mouth. S-class Asshole FTW!!!)

gizgal

14 years ago

You can wear what you like, but try in general not to show it off if you have a huge window in front?

As to the trash and mail and such, that's your prerogative unless the neighborhood has rules against leaving out trash.

storm102

14 years ago

Lazy Artist wrote...

lol congratulations man.

KrnSurferDude

14 years ago

Don't conform.

do whatever you want. i'm butt naked when there's no one in the apartment.

zunar

14 years ago

Naked guy here too! I am always wearing only shorts while in my apartment. Hell yeah, being naked is the best! I think you were right all the way. And I am glad you made up with your girlfriend. Screw the neighbours, it's not like you'll need them for anything.

umnut

14 years ago

Indecency is only a matter of perspective.

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