Genetic Engineering
Genetic Engineering
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The question is this: Is Genetic Engineering acceptable?
Personally, I agree with it. It would allow us to cure genetic diseases before they happen such as deaf or blindness. We could also use cloning to grow healthy organs to replace the ones that succumb to disease or become damaged. We could have enough organs that donation of ones organs would because obsolete.
As I said in another thread that I hijacked by accident. We could grow an army instead of making people enlist. The genetics from a star Athlete or an Einstein level intellectual could be passed on to the next generation of children. Once the Human Genome is cracked to it fullest the possibilities are endless. Do you want your child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Do you want them to be strong, Intelligent and beautiful? It would all be possible but, with all technology the emphasis is how its used. Genetic Engineering could also be used in a similar way that Hitler used it. Believing one race is genetically superior to another is a dangerous problem.
Lets take the military as an example. If we clone an army (thus controlling the genetics that go into each soldier) we could build on an already good base. Keeping a select few genes in that pool while leaving others as variables leaves the ability for them not to become homogeneous. As we know a homogeneous gene pool is very bad for a species. So leaving some genes as variable we can allow ourselves to naturally adapt while still using the genetic engineering to improve on the base again. As the soldier grow and are trained well there will be a few that stand out. We take the genes from those soldier and introduce them into the next generation of cloned soldier. You would just replace the old gene with the newer and better version of the old one. As you would replace a part in a computer with a better one. Now for the genes that are being replaced would be added to the general populace.
As we open up our possibilities we could even begin to open up more areas of the human brain. As it stands the average human only uses 10% of the brains capacity. Think if we could open up another 10% or 20 even 30%?
So do you agree that its a good idea or engineer our genes to how we want or you disagree and believe we shouldn't take that aspect into our own hands and we shouldn't play god?
Personally, I agree with it. It would allow us to cure genetic diseases before they happen such as deaf or blindness. We could also use cloning to grow healthy organs to replace the ones that succumb to disease or become damaged. We could have enough organs that donation of ones organs would because obsolete.
As I said in another thread that I hijacked by accident. We could grow an army instead of making people enlist. The genetics from a star Athlete or an Einstein level intellectual could be passed on to the next generation of children. Once the Human Genome is cracked to it fullest the possibilities are endless. Do you want your child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Do you want them to be strong, Intelligent and beautiful? It would all be possible but, with all technology the emphasis is how its used. Genetic Engineering could also be used in a similar way that Hitler used it. Believing one race is genetically superior to another is a dangerous problem.
Lets take the military as an example. If we clone an army (thus controlling the genetics that go into each soldier) we could build on an already good base. Keeping a select few genes in that pool while leaving others as variables leaves the ability for them not to become homogeneous. As we know a homogeneous gene pool is very bad for a species. So leaving some genes as variable we can allow ourselves to naturally adapt while still using the genetic engineering to improve on the base again. As the soldier grow and are trained well there will be a few that stand out. We take the genes from those soldier and introduce them into the next generation of cloned soldier. You would just replace the old gene with the newer and better version of the old one. As you would replace a part in a computer with a better one. Now for the genes that are being replaced would be added to the general populace.
As we open up our possibilities we could even begin to open up more areas of the human brain. As it stands the average human only uses 10% of the brains capacity. Think if we could open up another 10% or 20 even 30%?
So do you agree that its a good idea or engineer our genes to how we want or you disagree and believe we shouldn't take that aspect into our own hands and we shouldn't play god?
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I have to say yes and no in one way it could be OK when it come's about organs BUT about a colone army I don't now about that.We wold mostly then have wars that would not end. So I am mostly split when it comes to thes kind of questions.
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AlexTheHero wrote...
I have to say yes and no in one way it could be OK when it come's about organs BUT about a colone army I don't now about that.We wold mostly then have wars that would not end. So I am mostly split when it comes to thes kind of questions.Think about it like this. If the leaders knew the war would never end then they would never start it in the first place. "When there is mutual fear, men think twice before they make aggression upon one another." Hermocrates
Several nations around the world have Nukes and yet only two were ever detonated in a war. We all know that if we launch a nuke the the retaliation will be a nuke as well. So as the quote goes "When there is mutual fear, men think twice before they make aggression upon one another".
With all technology there is a double edged blade. As long as we strive to use it properly we have nothing to fear.
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*Cue Gundam SEED OP*
I, personally, love the idea of creating people who are "Smarter, stronger, Faster, Better."
But, for anyone who has watched SEED, the term "Blue Cosmos" should be something that will explain the inherent problems with making certain people awesomer then others.
GenEngi allows us the chance to take human potential far beyond what nature intended us to have, and I think that's a great concept. I'm a little angry that it will only work on following generations, but, hey.
That's what illegal, inhumane memory transplant experiments are for, no?
I, personally, love the idea of creating people who are "Smarter, stronger, Faster, Better."
But, for anyone who has watched SEED, the term "Blue Cosmos" should be something that will explain the inherent problems with making certain people awesomer then others.
GenEngi allows us the chance to take human potential far beyond what nature intended us to have, and I think that's a great concept. I'm a little angry that it will only work on following generations, but, hey.
That's what illegal, inhumane memory transplant experiments are for, no?
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Nate River wrote...
no, just out of the question.i don't want no one messing with my genes
They can't. You're already alive. Genetic engineering can only really happen when the egg is first fertilized (from what I understand of it).
What's wrong with messing with genes anyway? If you could get rid of any genetic tendencies (good or bad), why not?
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Arizth wrote...
*Cue Gundam SEED OP*I, personally, love the idea of creating people who are "Smarter, stronger, Faster, Better."
But, for anyone who has watched SEED, the term "Blue Cosmos" should be something that will explain the inherent problems with making certain people awesomer then others.
GenEngi allows us the chance to take human potential far beyond what nature intended us to have, and I think that's a great concept. I'm a little angry that it will only work on following generations, but, hey.
That's what illegal, inhumane memory transplant experiments are for, no?
I was unable to see Gundam Seed. Can you explain Blue Cosmos for me? On a related note no generation would be far superior to the one preceding it. Generation A is 100% (normal Human) Generation B would be 110% Generation C is 120% (generation A is close to or already dead by now). Think of it as a never ending tweaking. When a new "generation" is created the genes from the previous generation would be mixed in with everyone else's. If a soldier or a pro Athlete develop of promising gene then it'll be mixed into the next generation. Your already awesome, then you kid would be a little better and his kid would be a little better.
Of course this is assuming we kept the traditional methods of procreation as the means to produce offspring. They could just let people have children as they pleased or set it up as every few years there would be a sudden population jump (scheduled breeding) or the creepy aspect of cloning to populate the earth and removing sex for procreation.
I often dream of a psuedo-spartan/greek society when I think of this. For the first several years the child remains at home and at a certain age the child is taken away and sent to an academy. Educated in all worldly aspects (science,mathmatics,etc) and as the years go by they learn more complex things like physics,etc. While at the same time training their bodies with exercise and combat training. The academy would be a 12hr 7day a week schedule. Every day of every year until they are around their early twenties. When they graduate they would be assigned a job that best suits them. When it comes time for the next generation to come around the best of the best would be selected and would be used to make the next generation.
Sometimes I daydream too much
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I sortof agree with Genetic engineering but we don't need to make people live more or longer we need people to die. The world is overpopulated as it is. We're also not returning proper nutrients back into the soil via dead human carcasses. Humans take far more than they give back. We'll destroy this planet before most people will accept we are wrong. We already have long life cycles as it is and people want everyone to live epically long lives. We as humans have time enough on this earth so USE IT!
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Waar
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messing with anything before a human is a human being does not make a whole lot of sense, where do we draw the line? Children with only blue eyes? no children who are bad at sports? I believe our level of technology must continue to advance but wish we would limit certain aspect of our work.
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Aion Crux
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the term Newtype gets interested in.
they're not a human with modified genes or what. they're humans who evolved into the better one.
Newtype exist from UC 0079 to AW era (gundam X). the Newtypes can do telepathy,psychic ability (which requires to move Psycho Gundam),and can control Funnels (attacking unit that swarm like bees,doing formation,and kill the enemies).
aside from their skill,the Newtype is very rare to find. some people believe,with piloting the Gundam/Mobile suit will awaken their instinct as a Newtype.
seeing the rarity of Newtypes are hard to get,they're trying to bond the Newtype into a program called EXAM System (Gundam blue destiny)
in hope that all human can evolved into Newtype. sadly,an accident occurs and forcing the EXAM System going berserk. affecting the pilot,and causing chaos. destroying everything.
not aware because of the accident caused by the EXAM System,some people decided to "Renew" himself. by planting several program inside him,giving birth to a brand new.. "Artificial Newtype"
half human half nanomachine. those who cant evolved into Newtype can be modified into Artificial Newtype (Gundam F91)
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the Newtype things really makes me fascinated.
they can use telepathy to talk with each other.
using his mind to control the Funnels.
and even they can pull back meteorite that equal to 1/5 earth.
in Gundam anime,Newtype always pictured as an ultimate being. capable of destroying everything.
it's different from Coordinator (Gundam SEED) which gain it's ability by modified genes. the Newtype awaken their ability by battle and through many experience. making them superior to another.
i think we dont need to create something like modified human with machine or what.
what we need,is evolution. to be the best life form ever exist. the human will rule the earth and space by their own power.
they're not a human with modified genes or what. they're humans who evolved into the better one.
Newtype exist from UC 0079 to AW era (gundam X). the Newtypes can do telepathy,psychic ability (which requires to move Psycho Gundam),and can control Funnels (attacking unit that swarm like bees,doing formation,and kill the enemies).
aside from their skill,the Newtype is very rare to find. some people believe,with piloting the Gundam/Mobile suit will awaken their instinct as a Newtype.
seeing the rarity of Newtypes are hard to get,they're trying to bond the Newtype into a program called EXAM System (Gundam blue destiny)
in hope that all human can evolved into Newtype. sadly,an accident occurs and forcing the EXAM System going berserk. affecting the pilot,and causing chaos. destroying everything.
not aware because of the accident caused by the EXAM System,some people decided to "Renew" himself. by planting several program inside him,giving birth to a brand new.. "Artificial Newtype"
half human half nanomachine. those who cant evolved into Newtype can be modified into Artificial Newtype (Gundam F91)
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the Newtype things really makes me fascinated.
they can use telepathy to talk with each other.
using his mind to control the Funnels.
and even they can pull back meteorite that equal to 1/5 earth.
in Gundam anime,Newtype always pictured as an ultimate being. capable of destroying everything.
it's different from Coordinator (Gundam SEED) which gain it's ability by modified genes. the Newtype awaken their ability by battle and through many experience. making them superior to another.
i think we dont need to create something like modified human with machine or what.
what we need,is evolution. to be the best life form ever exist. the human will rule the earth and space by their own power.
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It would be wonderful to interact machine into humans, to be able to update them with new hardware as technology developes futher. Else older generations would outlive their usefulness quickly. Or maybe could they change body?
The brain is pretty solid, so it gotta have some logical way of storing its data, so we should be able to transfere it once it has been decyphred. New borns would have little practical use compared to a child with the experience of a 300 years old, unless this experience prevents them from being open minded.
Genetic engineering could well be a key to immortality. Not that I think everyone needs it. It would be pretty handy to let morons handle manual labor. Maybe restrict oxygen to the embryos? Or have alchohol in their blood?
Brave New World sure can be inspiring. I would welcome dystopia anyday, If I can be among those to lead our society to stability and order.
The brain is pretty solid, so it gotta have some logical way of storing its data, so we should be able to transfere it once it has been decyphred. New borns would have little practical use compared to a child with the experience of a 300 years old, unless this experience prevents them from being open minded.
Genetic engineering could well be a key to immortality. Not that I think everyone needs it. It would be pretty handy to let morons handle manual labor. Maybe restrict oxygen to the embryos? Or have alchohol in their blood?
Brave New World sure can be inspiring. I would welcome dystopia anyday, If I can be among those to lead our society to stability and order.
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"For a Blue and Natural world".
That's the tagline Blue Cosmos used. Essentially, Blue Cosmos is an extremist group of Naturals, unaltered humans, who despise the existence of Coordinators, the enhanced humans, and take every opportunity they can to incite hatred and murder of Coordinators. This group is made up of 90% the offspring and family of those who could have been enhanced, but were too poor to go through with it.
It is a petty hate, and in my eyes, the greatest threat to humanity 2.0.
That's the tagline Blue Cosmos used. Essentially, Blue Cosmos is an extremist group of Naturals, unaltered humans, who despise the existence of Coordinators, the enhanced humans, and take every opportunity they can to incite hatred and murder of Coordinators. This group is made up of 90% the offspring and family of those who could have been enhanced, but were too poor to go through with it.
It is a petty hate, and in my eyes, the greatest threat to humanity 2.0.
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I hate the Idea of immortality. If immortality was harnessed life's meaning and value is done. No one would have respect for life anymore.
Humans may be the dominate species but we're going to lead to our own destruction. That's only because we've left that the only option.
Humans may be the dominate species but we're going to lead to our own destruction. That's only because we've left that the only option.
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Immortality would be boring after awhile I imagine people would end up behaving like the bad guy in Vampire Hunter D.
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I blame Christianity for the "no's" of Gene Engineering. As we try to modernize our selves, they use the excuse that it is not God's plan, and try to bring us back to the middle ages.
I wouldn't see why not, Gene engineering will save many lives.
I wouldn't see why not, Gene engineering will save many lives.
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Genetic engineering for medical, botanical/farming, purposes I can live with...
But genetic tampering for military purposes seems like a bad idea to me...
But genetic tampering for military purposes seems like a bad idea to me...
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The problem I have with genetic modification to military personnel is what do you do with the genetically modified supermen once they are done serving? Do you turn them back or let them go freely with all that probably classified augmented genetic material which is going to be in the genepool?
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Mucky56 wrote...
I blame Christianity for the "no's" of Gene Engineering. As we try to modernize our selves, they use the excuse that it is not God's plan, and try to bring us back to the middle ages.I wouldn't see why not, Gene engineering will save many lives.
We should work more for improving the environment first before genetics more things to keep us alive long do. What's the point of living if you can't live in a world that's beautiful? Why do we humans feel we need immortality? Life has no meaning if it last forever.
I'm a Mormon which is still a Christian faith, I'm not a evangelist that's going to try and stop by any means to change your opinion. My religion will not impair my judgment on the subject. Just putting it out there. *^__^*
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York wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
I blame Christianity for the "no's" of Gene Engineering. As we try to modernize our selves, they use the excuse that it is not God's plan, and try to bring us back to the middle ages.I wouldn't see why not, Gene engineering will save many lives.
We should work more for improving the environment first before genetics more things to keep us alive long do. What's the point of living if you can't live in a world that's beautiful? Why do we humans feel we need immortality? Life has no meaning if it last forever.
I'm a Mormon which is still a Christian faith, I'm not a evangelist that's going to try and stop by any means to change your opinion. My religion will not impair my judgment on the subject. Just putting it out there. *^__^*
Mormon? I always wanted to ask one, does this vid really show what mormons believe?