Government and contraception
Should the government start a program dedicated to the formation of a very inexpensive and effective birth control pill for males and females? Then, give said pill away for free?
Voting for this poll has ended.
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tazpup wrote...
Luke Piewalker, a pill would be in your best interest because it would lower your taxes later. The reason your taxes are so high now, is because of some guy who couldn't control his dick.A way to lower taxes even more would be to cut out welfare. The libertarian school of thought is "If he can't control his dick then why are we required at gunpoint to foot his bill?"
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You say the poke-a-hole-in-the-condoms thing wouldn't work anymore, but that still requires a certain amount of suspicion on either end of the relationship...and people can be taken advantage of easily. And it would really have to be introduced through sex ed in schools, because I don't think a lot of parents are capable of telling their children how the bird and the bees work (without bias).
I suppose in this perfect world where the supercontraceptive is free (although the initial description said that it would be "very inexpensive"...which I did not assume to mean free of charge), okay, this may drastically lower the birthrate. It does seem like a serenely perfect hypothetical (but it seems like every argument that is brought up can easily be shot down with another dose of the imagination, which I applaud). However, to say that the supercontraceptive can be developed within our lifetime seems to be stretching it. I still think I would be iffy on the research, because I am aware of how the pharmaceutical system is run...too much can go wrong. But, again, on this completely hypothetical scale, there is a chance that I would support the cause...and only if EVERY single one of these items that myself and everyone else may have brought up are addressed. As for now, though, please understand that although I find this idea completely unrealistic, I do find the idea intriguing.
I suppose in this perfect world where the supercontraceptive is free (although the initial description said that it would be "very inexpensive"...which I did not assume to mean free of charge), okay, this may drastically lower the birthrate. It does seem like a serenely perfect hypothetical (but it seems like every argument that is brought up can easily be shot down with another dose of the imagination, which I applaud). However, to say that the supercontraceptive can be developed within our lifetime seems to be stretching it. I still think I would be iffy on the research, because I am aware of how the pharmaceutical system is run...too much can go wrong. But, again, on this completely hypothetical scale, there is a chance that I would support the cause...and only if EVERY single one of these items that myself and everyone else may have brought up are addressed. As for now, though, please understand that although I find this idea completely unrealistic, I do find the idea intriguing.
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To take away welfare doesn't seem like a good idea to me, but that is a completely different topic sir. The question at had is would you rally behind the creation of a super contraception pill? Also, why or why not.
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I would support the creation of such pill, I don't support abortion not for the moral issues but the health problems it may create on the woman having it.
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The development? Yes. The giving away for free? Hell no. Actions have consequences you can try lessen them but there must be consequences...
Also please think with me for a moment, especially those who say abortion is the same as murder.
You say abortion is the same as murder.
In some cases abortion happens naturally.
Therefore any woman who has abortion happen naturally is a murderer.
But it is an accident you may say.
Well the law says murder is murder even if accidental, the latter only lessens the gravity of the crime.
This is not really designed to be in favour or against abortion but for people to consider their arguments/belifes/ideas more carefully.
Also please think with me for a moment, especially those who say abortion is the same as murder.
You say abortion is the same as murder.
In some cases abortion happens naturally.
Therefore any woman who has abortion happen naturally is a murderer.
But it is an accident you may say.
Well the law says murder is murder even if accidental, the latter only lessens the gravity of the crime.
This is not really designed to be in favour or against abortion but for people to consider their arguments/belifes/ideas more carefully.
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I would rather have my tax dollars spent on this pill than abortions. There should be a reasonable limit to how much is spent on the research and production, but the idea in general is good
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Luke Piewalker wrote...
If a tax-funded program were indeed made to invent a new pill, the research and development costs would incur huge costs, as they do with all pharmaceuticals. In fact, this is the main reason for the exorbitant prices of most medicines. That being said, it would necessitate a raise in taxes, especially if it was given away for free. It is not in my best interest to support such a program, first because it's not like birth control is a life-threatening medical issue, and second because I don't want my taxes funding the fuck-up of some dude who couldn't control where he stuck his penis. Don't get me wrong, I am liberal-minded, being pro-universal healthcare, but this would be simply be outrageous, and I ask all "yes" voters to strongly reconsider their initial thoughts.Note: This thread isn't necessarily about abortion.
Whether you want it funded or not, the state will do it if it thinks it will lead to self preservation. Rational states alleviate poverty not because they don't want their citizens to be poor. States do it for the reason that it wants to grow. Rational states also knows that an increase in poverty is a powder keg waiting to be lit...