Gross Cop Power Trip
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twistedknightmare wrote...
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.I could fuck a girl with herpes but I wont. (lol)
I could cheat on my GF but I wont. (Its impossible to cheat on her anyways seeing as how we're in a open relationship, but you get the point).
NeoStriker wrote...
If you have a nail that needs to be hammered, why not use a hammer?Depends where you hammer that nail. ;)
I think you mean how you hammer it, because what you're saying is it depends on which kid I decide to teach a lesson to.
twistedknightmare wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Sure, maybe he didn't need to use his uniform and badge, but it worked.
Sure it did! Give or take some mental scaring and a possible hate for cops that will last a very long time.
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Also, on a side note, the report showed that he didn't have his badge on at the time.
Oh, my bad about the badge, I was really just trying to say how the cop used his appearance to teach the kid a lesson. Also, so you're saying he got the job done. Thank you.
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Actually I was thinking of an actual hammer and nail.
You could nail it into a wall or in someone's skull. =p
So you're saying its okay to scar someone as long as it teaches them a lesson?
As a person with more mental scaring than I'd like to admit: Piss off.
Yeah and don't thank me. -_-
You could nail it into a wall or in someone's skull. =p
So you're saying its okay to scar someone as long as it teaches them a lesson?
As a person with more mental scaring than I'd like to admit: Piss off.
Yeah and don't thank me. -_-
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twistedknightmare wrote...
So you're saying its okay to scar someone as long as it teaches them a lesson?
I think you don't get the fact that going to jail is more scarring than a lecture where you think you are going to jail...
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twistedknightmare wrote...
Actually I was thinking of an actual hammer and nail.You could nail it into a wall or in someone's skull. =p
So you're saying I could teach a lesson to a kid who has a tougher mentality or a kid who is a pussy. You fail to get analogies.
twistedknightmare wrote...
So you're saying its okay to scar someone as long as it teaches them a lesson?As a person with more mental scaring than I'd like to admit: Piss off.
Yeah and don't thank me. -_-
I really dislike this whole thing where you're supposedly not allowed to talk about something if it offends someone. I was saying it's okay to teach someone a lesson. Scarring afterwards? Get over it. I was thanking you for saying I was right.
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"Children" today are rapidly declining in both intellect and reason. Cases of rape, theivery, murder, and driving from as low as age 11 in terms of being able to know what your doing is very, very fucking wrong.
Any who believe otherwise, I urge you to sit in on a modern day class. Or at least see some of the shit so called "14" year olds do in these days. Far worse then the baby boomers I assure you.
Any who believe otherwise, I urge you to sit in on a modern day class. Or at least see some of the shit so called "14" year olds do in these days. Far worse then the baby boomers I assure you.
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I'm guessing none of the posters who think what the cop did 'wasn't that bad' have never had their civil rights violated. speaking as someone who has, repeatedly*, it usualy comes down to your word against theirs. and who do you think wins that, the nonconformist street scum, or the fine upstanding keeper of the peace? further more, who do you report such things to, internal affairs(still cops)? good luck with that. i fear the only reason this cop will get punished(if at all) will be because of the media coverage, not because what he did was wrong.
*[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
*[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
I'm guessing none of the posters who think what the cop did 'wasn't that bad' have never had their civil rights violated. speaking as someone who has, repeatedly*, it usualy comes down to your word against theirs. and who do you think wins that, the nonconformist street scum, or the fine upstanding keeper of the peace? further more, who do you report such things to, internal affairs(still cops)? good luck with that. i fear the only reason this cop will get punished(if at all) will be because of the media coverage, not because what he did was wrong. *[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
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I thinks its more of an issue that people take these rights too much for granted, and think that just because they are written down in law it will never happen and they can be safe in saying it never should happen. Even though that is not the way that reality works, so it's just a dream.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
I'm guessing none of the posters who think what the cop did 'wasn't that bad' have never had their civil rights violated. speaking as someone who has, repeatedly*, it usualy comes down to your word against theirs. and who do you think wins that, the nonconformist street scum, or the fine upstanding keeper of the peace? further more, who do you report such things to, internal affairs(still cops)? good luck with that. i fear the only reason this cop will get punished(if at all) will be because of the media coverage, not because what he did was wrong. *[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
Thing is, we shouldn't be "getting over it." A complacent populace breeds abuse by the higher-ups.
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Nekohime wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
I'm guessing none of the posters who think what the cop did 'wasn't that bad' have never had their civil rights violated. speaking as someone who has, repeatedly*, it usualy comes down to your word against theirs. and who do you think wins that, the nonconformist street scum, or the fine upstanding keeper of the peace? further more, who do you report such things to, internal affairs(still cops)? good luck with that. i fear the only reason this cop will get punished(if at all) will be because of the media coverage, not because what he did was wrong. *[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
Thing is, we shouldn't be "getting over it." A complacent populace breeds abuse by the higher-ups.
Everything doesn't always go your way. You will be wronged eventually, where you can't do anything about it.
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Nekohime wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
I'm guessing none of the posters who think what the cop did 'wasn't that bad' have never had their civil rights violated. speaking as someone who has, repeatedly*, it usualy comes down to your word against theirs. and who do you think wins that, the nonconformist street scum, or the fine upstanding keeper of the peace? further more, who do you report such things to, internal affairs(still cops)? good luck with that. i fear the only reason this cop will get punished(if at all) will be because of the media coverage, not because what he did was wrong. *[size=10]shake down(4th amnd.) because i looked "suspicious", pulled out of a car at gun point beacause we "fit the discription" of suspects(racial profile), and out right assult(punched in the face for being a smart ass).[/h]
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
Thing is, we shouldn't be "getting over it." A complacent populace breeds abuse by the higher-ups.
And a victimizing populace breeds anarchy.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Spoiler:
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
First of all, i didn't live in a bad area when most of that stuff happened. and even if i did, that is no excuse for cops to abuse their position. and to say something like just get over it is absurd. people "getting over it" is how groups like the nazis get in to positions of power.
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Spoiler:
You live in a terrible neighborhood. I honestly hope you can't really believe all cops and authorities are like that. And yea, I have had my civil rights violated, and I got over it.
First of all, i didn't live in a bad area when most of that stuff happened. and even if i did, that is no excuse for cops to abuse their position. and to say something like just get over it is absurd. people "getting over it" is how groups like the nazis get in to positions of power.
Oh, you're an elder now? Congrats. Hm, alright. Then, have you done something? If so, then in my case, there was nothing I could do. If not, then just don’t let it influence your daily life, is what I'm trying to say.
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I know not all cops are dicks, i've dealt with several that were pretty cool. i just think they should have to face up to their misdeeds like everyone else. i think too many walk behind the badge. they became cops for the power, not to serve the people or try to better their comunity.
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Takerial
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Saying there was nothing you could do is just you reasoning out the situation so you could feel that you couldn't do anything, even though it is that you didn't do anything.
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Fun Fact: the ACLU is much less likely to help white males. aperantly, not many think that group can be discriminated against, so it's not worth their effort.
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Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
People seem to be missing the point. it's not about what the kids did, it's about what the cop did. if he had came to yell about his daughter in street clothes, it would have been fine. when he showed up in uniform, and hand cuffed that kid, he crossed the line. that is against the law. even though it is only a misdemenor, i doubt anything will happen to the cop beyond a slap on the wrist. for any who doubted my abreviated discription of the law, here is a direct link to the state of california website: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=142-181 section 146.
Here is the index for the CA penal code.
I agree. There is more than one issue here. There is the legal question of what the cop did and what the kids did, and there is the moral question of both as well.
The cop broke the law doing what he did. They only real question is, was it the right thing to do as father. I would say it isn't. It's well within a father's rights to be concerned about his young daughter and even to act on it, but not was a misuse of his position, it also, in my mind, crossed a line in the parenting of the boy. If he was 18, I wouldn't see it as a problem for the kid to be directly confronted. But the kid was 15, he's still his parent's responsibility. The responsible thing to do, to me, seems like to go to the kids parents and talk about it, and let his own parents handle the situation. That is, if he doesn't decide to take official legal action.
The law is clear enough about the kids as well, but I believe the law to be a delusion in itself. Kids are fucking around younger these days. Even when I was in highschool everyone was fucking by 14, and I only graduated 3 years ago.
I'm also a bit surprised so many people here seem to be taking the moral high ground on the teen-fucking issue. I'm sure most of us here were already on the internet looking at porn by the time we were 14. And the internet has shown us some nasty shit. I don't see how you can consider that better than being in a relationship and having sex at 14, or even just fucking around. I couldn't tell you if it was right or wrong for every single person, but the youth of today is overexposed to sexual content as it is; they gonna fuck around.
Mr.Shaggnificent wrote...
Fun Fact: the ACLU is much less likely to help white males. aperantly, not many think that group can be discriminated against, so it's not worth their effort.The world is too used to white males owning and running everything.