Is Peace a Lie?
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fatman wrote...
Pen and Telle'rs view that trade is the way to promote peace is simplistic.Some wars are fought on idealogy. Sure, trade is more beneficial. But who wants to live the good life when infidels/commies have taken over the holy site/this third world country? Or how about "give me liberty, or give me death"?
And most wars are fought because side A wants a more cushy life and is willing to take side B's resources. Why trade when you can take? See the age of colonial expansion, or even the current US-Iraq conflct. The great empires could have just set shop and traded with the natives, but felt that they could generate more cash if they took control of the local's natural resources.
These are the two reasons why world peace is impossible. There will always be people who would rather die (or kill) for what they believe in. That includes things like religion, or more secular ideas like freedom and independence. And there will always be people who are greedy, who are willing to take far more than they are willing to give.
I agree with you on this,fatman......
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Peace does not Exist... Not even in one's own self as one is bound to always have doubts and internal conflicts...
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Peace...its like Heaven and Hell...
you don't wait for it...you experience it in intervals...
I'm sure you've noticed...]
I agree...and with that, there are different kinds of peace and how it could be used...
Peace with yourself, Peace with your dog, Peace with the Universe...
Or at least for me, what I yearn for now is peace with my upset stomach...and right now I'm experiencing a different kind of Hell!
*runs to the toilet*
you don't wait for it...you experience it in intervals...
I'm sure you've noticed...]
GameON wrote...
Peace is differently defined for each individual.I agree...and with that, there are different kinds of peace and how it could be used...
Peace with yourself, Peace with your dog, Peace with the Universe...
Or at least for me, what I yearn for now is peace with my upset stomach...and right now I'm experiencing a different kind of Hell!
*runs to the toilet*
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Cloud Lionheart wrote...
Peace does not Exist... Not even in one's own self as one is bound to always have doubts and internal conflicts...True, but if people work together then peace is there. Understanding if you want another word. Yourself and the other individual. Conflicts and revolutions that shatter that peace are cause by people not understanding each other and stubbornly trying to get their own way.
I say there is peace.
But it can never last.
Every time peace is achieved,
there will be another strong-headed idiot that wants otherwise, disrupting 'peace'
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Peace cannot exist without its opposite, chaos. Thus, there will never be true peace because peace only comes out from chaos, and because there is chaos there is no true peace.
Confusing, but it works in my head.
Confusing, but it works in my head.
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Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage.
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Dejitaru Ryuu wrote...
Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage.Fallout 3 much?
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ExESGO wrote...
Dejitaru Ryuu wrote...
Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage.Fallout 3 much?
yup. plus it pretty much sums up what I believe. We humans are simply too greedy
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In the manner of thinking that a 'lie' is a distortion of truth, peace ain't a lie, but can be used in a lie.
We are often promised peace, but we don't see results. Hence we are made to think that peace is a lie. 'Lie' here being the absence of truth.
We are often promised peace, but we don't see results. Hence we are made to think that peace is a lie. 'Lie' here being the absence of truth.
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There is such thing as peace. However, world peace is almost impossible. The whole world can't unite in peace; there's always one asshole to fuck things up. Fish.
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Dejitaru Ryuu wrote...
ExESGO wrote...
Dejitaru Ryuu wrote...
Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage.Fallout 3 much?
yup. plus it pretty much sums up what I believe. We humans are simply too greedy
ooooh! too greedy for hentai in our case? *Shotgun Blast to Mr.Jokuh's Face*
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exys wrote...
In the manner of thinking that a 'lie' is a distortion of truth, peace ain't a lie, but can be used in a lie.We are often promised peace, but we don't see results. Hence we are made to think that peace is a lie. 'Lie' here being the absence of truth.
Nice Logic ^_^... You can only disprove existence if it really exist.
Anyway... Inner peace seems more plausible than world peace. Surviving day to day scenario without succumbing to problems
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I will say that Peace is somewhat difficult to attain but can achieved... Why??? as long as there are two people fighting for resources,they will do anything to attain that even if they hurt someone..because they think,act,move different from each other..When Peace is Achieved there is always someone wants to break it because they are countries who're gaining benefits in war....and in our time today??? it will be hard to attain global peace since mankind is now greedy about money technology ,women,power...
Aristotle wrote...
We make war that we may live in peace.
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Real peace is very hard to get. Can we really obtain world peace if we really try?
An example a never-ending conflict racism, war with Iraq, Bombing and so on.
What do we need really need someone to burden our hatred like Lelouch had done to the world.
A yasashi no sekai will never work for us.
Different Ideology, religion, Block and standpoint.
An example a never-ending conflict racism, war with Iraq, Bombing and so on.
What do we need really need someone to burden our hatred like Lelouch had done to the world.
A yasashi no sekai will never work for us.
Different Ideology, religion, Block and standpoint.
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:) <- a peace smile
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:) <- a peace smile
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é¾™ wrote...
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:) <- a peace smile
English only....
I don't like the idea of peace I wanna do bad shit sometimes.
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Longevity wrote...
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:) <- a peace smile
English only....
I don't like the idea of peace I wanna do bad shit sometimes.
Okay...I'll be translate it for you.
I don't know how to say.Today I watched a video called World Trad Center.But I'm not interested in it.So I just see the opening.And just right now I see this topic.I wanna say that as a foreigner I can't understand it deeply.it's very real and cruel.But We can't change it.We just can run after the society,maybe it's a little pessimistic.But it's real,That's what I learned.
:) <- apeace smile
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Peace = utopia = "no place"
No place means it's not even in your imagination. Try. If you try to imagine the world of "peace", it will fall apart by itself very quickly.
No place means it's not even in your imagination. Try. If you try to imagine the world of "peace", it will fall apart by itself very quickly.
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Beliefs are fought over everyday for the sake of living like defending yourself from insults to cultural differences, people will have to fight so that they can be safe in what they want to believe in. Peace, is a belief to not have these fights but others may feel to uncomfortable with the idea or too greedy over the idea to take advantage. Thus, a fight is always inevitable; so true peace is not just only hard to obtain, but it's also short lived.
Conclusion: Another word for 'peace' is 'trust' and as long as people are comfortable with each other then there will be peace. The question is how long?
Conclusion: Another word for 'peace' is 'trust' and as long as people are comfortable with each other then there will be peace. The question is how long?