New World Order and You
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Jericho Antares wrote...
Well the hate wells up from desire, and the desire to prove yourself better than the man next to you leads to progress. In a world where there was no conflict or greed or hate we'd be stuck in a constant present. We would never push forward because there is no reason to.I completely agree with this, conflict breeds a better tomorrow. With out it we'd be stuck in a present that never moved foward because everyone would agree. You can't get any new ideas that way.
And that list Firey penguin posted is half communism, the other half is the shared goals of the governments of the world.
most people share the same goals, democrats and republicans, democracy and dictatorships. The difference is in how we achieve these goals, and what means justify the end.
What kind of world would it be where you were told that your family could only be so big? or that you'd have to wait in line to have a chld. That you couldn't have "X" job because that isn't productive to society. And why would I care about this society, what would be the point? The idea of patroitism isn't enough t cause me to break my back at work. I'd only do it if there was something in it for me, or if I was doing it for my family.
That is why americans are so patriotic, because it is a free country where you are entitled to whatever you work for, your harvest belongs to you, not the government.
And as for a world court, that is absurd. People in different parts of the world have different beliefs. It'd be offensive to everyone if they'd all have to abide by different peoples laws. To many customs and traditions are held close to peoples hearts to give them up for a law that previously didn't affect them, and was created for another part of the world.
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Koyori wrote...
Countries that have little problems with economy, security, equality etc etc have low birthrates, there's a few exceptions due special cases like china and effects of religion but if you look at a list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate) you'll get the point if you try to figure out what the difference is between the countries that have a high and low birthrate. So if you got a decent society you probably wouldn't run in such problems.I don't know where they got the 500,000,000 number from but the ideal pop from ecologists would be somewhere between 1-3billions depending on what standard you'd want people to have and then the population ( or standard) could increase as technology gets better.
While you are correct, there are other factors that determine the birthrate of a country. An example would be the declining fertility in American Men who drink water in Areas where water is recycled. Various hormone from birth control are passed through the bodies of women taking the medication. Which then enters the water supply and is able to pass being filtered out. The men drink the water which caused lower sperm count. Also the increased use of contraceptives to control birth rates.
Currently, the birthrates in developed countries is about a 1-1 ratio while under under developed countries would be hitting population explosions if the mortality rates weren't so high. So in order for a N.W.O to take over they would have to control the reproduction of those countries first as the western world is maintaining it's population levels do to immigration.
My concern is how would the N.W.O. control population levels? Force contraception? Controlled reproduction (Master Race), etc. I find these type of actions nothing less than disturbing. While I would love to have the guidelines held up by a general population consensus but, doing so by force isn't the way to go but, sadly if a N.W.O. takes place it is most likely going to be totalitarian or an Oligarchy
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If humanity forms into one we all became NOTHING! We lose any sort of individuality. What made our cultures great was how it contrasted with others. This is similar to Childhood's End and NGE (stupid analogy = stupid logic)
The thing is that most of the time a conspiracy theory comes to surface, it usually is FALSE! It's only a conspiracy if no one knows.
The thing is that most of the time a conspiracy theory comes to surface, it usually is FALSE! It's only a conspiracy if no one knows.
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I like this guy!
...I haven't read much of the messages posted but I'd like to state.
1. MJ is just too iconic not to be covered much by media, not cover.
2. When some NWO attacks happen, murderous approaches are obvious and they can't do it that fast so non NWOs can react to hunt them.
3. The reason I mentioned Christians is that if NWO attacks, as it wouldn't be so too fast, just think about the amount of Christian guys that can drafted.
Well, I've read a little.
Hate & stuff: Doesn't only makes a push forward but also backward, like, how could businesses move on as much with war is going on, especially, entertainment.
World court: Yeah, it's hard, but I just don't know how UN's still up. I kinda think that in some religion, their God promised that they'll be the best, then when defeated, they can't accept that their long tradition faith is not 100% real then fight, such feeling cannot be resolved by discussing.
Last poster: FPoD did mention the internal stuff so nations are still intact. And some people are kinda better than James Bond that they know top secret stuff instead of FBI.
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I like this guy!
...I haven't read much of the messages posted but I'd like to state.
1. MJ is just too iconic not to be covered much by media, not cover.
2. When some NWO attacks happen, murderous approaches are obvious and they can't do it that fast so non NWOs can react to hunt them.
3. The reason I mentioned Christians is that if NWO attacks, as it wouldn't be so too fast, just think about the amount of Christian guys that can drafted.
Well, I've read a little.
Hate & stuff: Doesn't only makes a push forward but also backward, like, how could businesses move on as much with war is going on, especially, entertainment.
World court: Yeah, it's hard, but I just don't know how UN's still up. I kinda think that in some religion, their God promised that they'll be the best, then when defeated, they can't accept that their long tradition faith is not 100% real then fight, such feeling cannot be resolved by discussing.
Last poster: FPoD did mention the internal stuff so nations are still intact. And some people are kinda better than James Bond that they know top secret stuff instead of FBI.
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If anybody can join the world in peace i would join with them because they are all powerful but right now that is impossible. They would have to take over through war, and that pisses people off.
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Rbz wrote...
The problem with this guy, is that he forms a conclusion, then he finds any little puzzle piece to fit that conclusion and ignores the evidence to the contrary. That's the wrong way to do shit.You r right
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greenzspy wrote...
I think its a crock conspiracy. I wouldn't take it seriously. *My two cents.*
The NWO is real. And these guys are its leaders:
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This is how I think about it.
If one person, Or a group of people ruled the world, it would be domination.
If Said person or group wanted to kill us? he could slaughter by the millions.
The Leader Or Leaders of our world would be, More or less. Gods.
It will never happen, Too much risk.
Best thing i can guess could, and hopfully will happen would be a federation of all countries in the world. A Firm alliance, but never giving up their own individuality as a Country Or People.
If one person, Or a group of people ruled the world, it would be domination.
If Said person or group wanted to kill us? he could slaughter by the millions.
The Leader Or Leaders of our world would be, More or less. Gods.
It will never happen, Too much risk.
Best thing i can guess could, and hopfully will happen would be a federation of all countries in the world. A Firm alliance, but never giving up their own individuality as a Country Or People.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Gentlepervert wrote...
Hate & stuff: Doesn't only makes a push forward but also backward, like, how could businesses move on as much with war is going on, especially, entertainment.
Its thinking like that that has brought us into a super-liberal age. Conflict as in "I want this and you want this" ALWAYS leads to progress in ANY industry. Whentwo powers vie for the same thing, they advance to one-up their enemies to get what they want more easily. Their enemies, not willing to sit back and take it, develop something and the cycle continues. It is our very nature to want more, and it is because of this nature that we have mastered technologies once thought impossible.
In 200 years flight went from An idiot jumping off a bridge flapping giant wings to the quickest mode of transportation in the world. I'll tell you this: It wasn't because we all joined hands in a love circle.
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razama wrote...
greenzspy wrote...
I think its a crock conspiracy. I wouldn't take it seriously. *My two cents.*
The NWO is real. And these guys are its leaders:
hahahaha! i remember when wrestling wasn't so homo erotic.
i miss the good old w.w.f.
"can you smell waht the rock is cooking"?!
-the rock, a.k.a. god.
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New World Order is impossible.
If we believe what Arbitor69 said - ~80% of population must die.
Impossible since at best(or at worst... whatever you want to think of it) 70% of population would be against being killed. Pure number superiority so the winner of that war would be anti-New Word Order. And if we think that those 20% with New World Order would be tactical geniuses - there is no way that none of them would go to anti-NWO since that person would for ever go in history as the savior of billions.
But then again if NWO happened everyone would stop shittin about Hitler-this and Hitler-that since compared to 80% he was just a bully in grade-school.
If we believe what Arbitor69 said - ~80% of population must die.
Impossible since at best(or at worst... whatever you want to think of it) 70% of population would be against being killed. Pure number superiority so the winner of that war would be anti-New Word Order. And if we think that those 20% with New World Order would be tactical geniuses - there is no way that none of them would go to anti-NWO since that person would for ever go in history as the savior of billions.
But then again if NWO happened everyone would stop shittin about Hitler-this and Hitler-that since compared to 80% he was just a bully in grade-school.
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Jericho Antares wrote...
Gentlepervert wrote...
Hate & stuff: Doesn't only makes a push forward but also backward, like, how could businesses move on as much with war is going on, especially, entertainment.
Its thinking like that that has brought us into a super-liberal age. Conflict as in "I want this and you want this" ALWAYS leads to progress in ANY industry. Whentwo powers vie for the same thing, they advance to one-up their enemies to get what they want more easily. Their enemies, not willing to sit back and take it, develop something and the cycle continues. It is our very nature to want more, and it is because of this nature that we have mastered technologies once thought impossible.
In 200 years flight went from An idiot jumping off a bridge flapping giant wings to the quickest mode of transportation in the world. I'll tell you this: It wasn't because we all joined hands in a love circle.
It was because we wanted to drop bombs on each other.
It is the way of man, even in social life. When I was young and in college (last year) I got in a fight with a dude in my dorm over who was a better QB during our flag football games. So we tried to one up each other, and in the process we both became better at throwing the ball.
Perhaps 2000 years from now, mankinds continual fight with itself will make us prepared for war from an alien invasion ;)
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
If everyone preaching for peace went to one hemisphere and everyone that thinks conflict is a necessary part of existence goes to the other and in fifty years we compared technologies it would be damn funny.
"We have this car that runs on barely any gas"
"We used all our gas so we're striaght up Hydrogen and Fusion now. LATER, BITCHES!" *VROOM VROOM*
"We have this car that runs on barely any gas"
"We used all our gas so we're striaght up Hydrogen and Fusion now. LATER, BITCHES!" *VROOM VROOM*
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razama wrote...
Jericho Antares wrote...
Gentlepervert wrote...
Hate & stuff: Doesn't only makes a push forward but also backward, like, how could businesses move on as much with war is going on, especially, entertainment.
Its thinking like that that has brought us into a super-liberal age. Conflict as in "I want this and you want this" ALWAYS leads to progress in ANY industry. Whentwo powers vie for the same thing, they advance to one-up their enemies to get what they want more easily. Their enemies, not willing to sit back and take it, develop something and the cycle continues. It is our very nature to want more, and it is because of this nature that we have mastered technologies once thought impossible.
In 200 years flight went from An idiot jumping off a bridge flapping giant wings to the quickest mode of transportation in the world. I'll tell you this: It wasn't because we all joined hands in a love circle.
It was because we wanted to drop bombs on each other.
It is the way of man, even in social life. When I was young and in college (last year) I got in a fight with a dude in my dorm over who was a better QB during our flag football games. So we tried to one up each other, and in the process we both became better at throwing the ball.
Perhaps 2000 years from now, mankinds continual fight with itself will make us prepared for war from an alien invasion ;)
Well, in Renaissance, developments came up nice, even at peace time. Also curiosity and love(can be applied on hate actually) can fill somethin. I've seen a debate like this in Gundam seed, pro war with development is by Rau le Crueset while Kira and Athrun are for goody-goody sumthin... For now, I'd appreciate balance, war can show worth(sometimes the better wouldn't always win), all war is restless.
I admit, I love war in fiction and sports, but when it's just real, you have to kick ass even of nice guys.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Most Renaissance advancements came around because young artists made themselves better to acquire money from rich families like the Medici's. Competition=Conflict=Advancement...
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That's negotiation. It's a deal that needs that approvance and fulfillment of both sides and not to defeat. If such artists did not work for them, they wouldn't have seen gotten the a great art while if there's no such wealthy person whom will they do business with, they wouldn't get the materials.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
And the artists obtained the right to negotioate with these high up families by walking up to other artists ad saying that they should share their drawlings like good boys?
No, they DESIRE the money to ADVANCE their own goals and the other artists were OBSTACLES. Such behavior breeds CONFLICT.
An example: When an man pitches a movie idea and he's up against other movies, he's going to exploit their weaknesses and shortcomings and amplify his own idea's strengths. That is hostility, a form of conflict.
No, they DESIRE the money to ADVANCE their own goals and the other artists were OBSTACLES. Such behavior breeds CONFLICT.
An example: When an man pitches a movie idea and he's up against other movies, he's going to exploit their weaknesses and shortcomings and amplify his own idea's strengths. That is hostility, a form of conflict.
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I'm talking about the relation between the rich and artists, not artist to artist. And also, artists can do business with no competition since uniqueness is great part of art an so they're on different lanes not so to compete. Though I know classic and modern did compete though but not such a fuss.