Polygamy relationships? What do you think?
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to be honest i would never turn down a fit girl xD.
but i am loyal to my current GF.. so i have a bit of a prediciment xD
I suppose if my current GF was 100% fine with it i wouldnt say no xD
its like that old saying
'Guys cant technically be raped, its just surprise sex'
On the thought that a mens natural instinct would be to please as many women as possible (sexually, emotionally etc etc)
but i am loyal to my current GF.. so i have a bit of a prediciment xD
I suppose if my current GF was 100% fine with it i wouldnt say no xD
its like that old saying
'Guys cant technically be raped, its just surprise sex'
On the thought that a mens natural instinct would be to please as many women as possible (sexually, emotionally etc etc)
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If you want positive points of polygamy...
-Things don't get stale: you have many women within the group to choose from and some may like a certain way of having sex more than the others.
-If any children are born, the relationships allow for more adults to give attention to them.
Note, these are only for healthy relationships. If the polygamous relationship isn't healthy, don't go expecting these positive points to be true.
-Things don't get stale: you have many women within the group to choose from and some may like a certain way of having sex more than the others.
-If any children are born, the relationships allow for more adults to give attention to them.
Note, these are only for healthy relationships. If the polygamous relationship isn't healthy, don't go expecting these positive points to be true.
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If its between consenting adults sure. I personally don't think i could do it, but if other adults want to have that kind of relationship its there right
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Measuring how we can barely handle 1v1 relationships, I really can't get behind the idea of instituting a tradition of uneven teams.
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There is a lot of work involved. As a guy, you need a very special set of skills to make it work. Even guys that manage to get it working can break down and become a mess.
Besides...it's too much work, threesomes aren't even worth the effort in my opinion. If you really want to experience the polygamous lifestyle, try and set up a few threesomes. See if you can even manage that. Here are a few of my insights...
Circles that include other guys have more drama (throughout history, there weren't any cultures that managed to support this lifestyle for an extended period of time). A closed circle with one guy and multiple girls is the most stable and peaceful way to go (this is also how most cultures over the course of history functioned).
For it to work well, you need an exceptional primary partner. She needs to know how to attract and seduce women, or you need to teach her. More importantly, she needs to be the dominant female. You need to set strong boundaries and reinforce them throughout the relationship, micro-managing 2 or more girls will drive you insane. The primary will take over some of this responsibility.
You also need your primary to stand by you at all times. There is no way that you can micro-manage more than 2 girls at once when they synch up against you. Ever notice when you accidentally piss off one girl, every girl she knows is also pissed at you? This 'syncing' effect can become unmanageable, it can compound and drive things into the ground if you don't have someone that is always on your side, helping to diffuse the situation.
You need to be rock solid. Most guys can't stay in their masculine and dominant essence, this results in the woman taking over in the relationship. When a woman takes the higher status, attraction fades and the relationship becomes flat....loses its exhilaration. If you 'lose it' in a circle, things will fall apart very quickly.
For most guys, the idea is appealing is because it is one of the biggest ego strokes. You will get a lot of looks when you're out in public holding hands and making out with 2 girls. On a good note, the dynamic is profound. You're crazy about the 2 girls, the 2 girls are crazy about each other and you...it's different from a regular relationship.
But as I mentioned earlier, setting it up and maintenance can become a pain and impossible. School, work, friends...then the maintenance of your circle. The fallout rate is very random. You'll be flying together, but one day...a girl will realize that she doesn't want to keep it up, she doesn't see herself living like this forever. So to keep the lifestyle, you're always on the lookout for more members.
On the other hand, I looked into Sister Wives and it's an entirely different thing altogether. The women grew up in a polygamist culture and taking on multiple wives was to be expected. Personally, I have never met any girls that was raised in such a culture...but I'm sure that would simplify everything.
Besides...it's too much work, threesomes aren't even worth the effort in my opinion. If you really want to experience the polygamous lifestyle, try and set up a few threesomes. See if you can even manage that. Here are a few of my insights...
Circles that include other guys have more drama (throughout history, there weren't any cultures that managed to support this lifestyle for an extended period of time). A closed circle with one guy and multiple girls is the most stable and peaceful way to go (this is also how most cultures over the course of history functioned).
For it to work well, you need an exceptional primary partner. She needs to know how to attract and seduce women, or you need to teach her. More importantly, she needs to be the dominant female. You need to set strong boundaries and reinforce them throughout the relationship, micro-managing 2 or more girls will drive you insane. The primary will take over some of this responsibility.
You also need your primary to stand by you at all times. There is no way that you can micro-manage more than 2 girls at once when they synch up against you. Ever notice when you accidentally piss off one girl, every girl she knows is also pissed at you? This 'syncing' effect can become unmanageable, it can compound and drive things into the ground if you don't have someone that is always on your side, helping to diffuse the situation.
You need to be rock solid. Most guys can't stay in their masculine and dominant essence, this results in the woman taking over in the relationship. When a woman takes the higher status, attraction fades and the relationship becomes flat....loses its exhilaration. If you 'lose it' in a circle, things will fall apart very quickly.
For most guys, the idea is appealing is because it is one of the biggest ego strokes. You will get a lot of looks when you're out in public holding hands and making out with 2 girls. On a good note, the dynamic is profound. You're crazy about the 2 girls, the 2 girls are crazy about each other and you...it's different from a regular relationship.
But as I mentioned earlier, setting it up and maintenance can become a pain and impossible. School, work, friends...then the maintenance of your circle. The fallout rate is very random. You'll be flying together, but one day...a girl will realize that she doesn't want to keep it up, she doesn't see herself living like this forever. So to keep the lifestyle, you're always on the lookout for more members.
On the other hand, I looked into Sister Wives and it's an entirely different thing altogether. The women grew up in a polygamist culture and taking on multiple wives was to be expected. Personally, I have never met any girls that was raised in such a culture...but I'm sure that would simplify everything.
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godotccf wrote...
I'd do it if I can do the ff:> find people willing to be my wives
> find enough money to support them and the children to come
> get a big house for them to live in
other than that it's fine.
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I wasn't in a polygamous relationship, but I was with a person who was. I was with a girl that already had a boyfriend and a girlfriend. The four of us knew each other and were friends, though I honestly didn't talk to the guy much (didn't have a lot in common, not because of any jealously or anything). The core girl around which we all revolved and I liked each other, had an instant attraction, and her boyfriend was cool with us sort-of being together. We never discussed it, but I believe it was assumed that I was always secondary, that he was the number one guy in her life (they were engaged). That was fine with me because I just liked this girl and was desperate to be with someone.
Before long, the situation became an on-off thing. Boyfriend #1 would get jealous and ask that she and I not do stuff together, though he didn't mind us being friends with each other. I think it was simply the idea of us being with each other sexually that scared him. Then after a little while, he'd apologize and say that he was being stupid, and it would start up again. That went on for over a year.
Eventually, they split up. I was still there and scooped her up, relishing the #1 guy status because it meant I could spend even more time with her. During that period, she revealed to me that she had cheated on her ex-fiance a good couple of times - with me! We had fooled around when he had said that he wasn't comfortable with it, and she had never told me.
To shorten this story, things didn't work out for any of the people involved - she and I broke up, she and her girlfriend broke up, and the first boyfriend never returned to the picture. Not that it matters much; I think we've all moved past it. But I doubt I'd do it again. I didn't get as hurt as you might expect, but it was a supreme hassle. I'm not exactly comfortable with the idea that I was the guy a girl cheated on her boyfriend with, though to be honest, I am flattered. And it certainly did suck to be pushed to the side when boyfriend #1 called her. And our alone time together did prove to be a thorn in her girlfriend's side because it kept them from being together.
In the end, I think polygamy ignores common sense for pleasure. Of course it feels good to be loved, and the more people that love you, the better it feels, but being with more than one person at a time is like trying to balance something in each hand and then adding a third thing to the top of your head.
Before long, the situation became an on-off thing. Boyfriend #1 would get jealous and ask that she and I not do stuff together, though he didn't mind us being friends with each other. I think it was simply the idea of us being with each other sexually that scared him. Then after a little while, he'd apologize and say that he was being stupid, and it would start up again. That went on for over a year.
Eventually, they split up. I was still there and scooped her up, relishing the #1 guy status because it meant I could spend even more time with her. During that period, she revealed to me that she had cheated on her ex-fiance a good couple of times - with me! We had fooled around when he had said that he wasn't comfortable with it, and she had never told me.
To shorten this story, things didn't work out for any of the people involved - she and I broke up, she and her girlfriend broke up, and the first boyfriend never returned to the picture. Not that it matters much; I think we've all moved past it. But I doubt I'd do it again. I didn't get as hurt as you might expect, but it was a supreme hassle. I'm not exactly comfortable with the idea that I was the guy a girl cheated on her boyfriend with, though to be honest, I am flattered. And it certainly did suck to be pushed to the side when boyfriend #1 called her. And our alone time together did prove to be a thorn in her girlfriend's side because it kept them from being together.
In the end, I think polygamy ignores common sense for pleasure. Of course it feels good to be loved, and the more people that love you, the better it feels, but being with more than one person at a time is like trying to balance something in each hand and then adding a third thing to the top of your head.
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I don't have the time or the nerves for two husbands, and I'm pretty sure a man would go nuts if he had to handle me and another women..so no, other people can do what ever the fuck they want, as long they'r mentally able adults I don't give a damn, otherwise I call the cops.
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This is a capitalist society. Building a harem of effeminate boys and hot girls means you're gathering resources of a specific niche. And yet soon all the socialists and lazy fucks will whine for you to share. Yay.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
storm102 wrote...
This is a capitalist society. Building a harem of effeminate boys and hot girls means you're gathering resources of a specific niche. And yet soon all the socialists and lazy fucks will whine for you to share. Yay.You people are confusing polygamy with polyamory... and a lot of other things. Let's list some of the open, consensual forms of sex & relationships that involve multiple people:
-Polygamy: *Marriage* where *one* person is married to several more.
-Group marriage: Several people form a single family unit, with all considered to be married to one another.
-Polyfidelity: Multiple people are involved in a relationship, but restrict sexual activity to within the group.
-An Understanding: An affair with your partner's approval. (Monica Lewinsky was likely this for Bill Clinton. Hillary probably knew everything).
-Polyamory: Having multiple intimate relationships.
-Open marriage/relationship: you're married, but you agree to casual sexual contact with others.
-Swinging: casual group sex, usually an organized activity for that express purpose.
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I think it is unfair for a man or woman to want another man or woman apart from their spouse or partner or whomever. How can you feel loved if the person you love also loves another? I would never dream of having more then one girlfriend.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Pyrope wrote...
I think it is unfair for a man or woman to want another man or woman apart from their spouse or partner or whomever. How can you feel loved if the person you love also loves another? I would never dream of having more then one girlfriend.Even if you have a spouse, you'll still love your parents... and the love you'll have for your children will outclass anything else in your life. The only difference is that these relations won't be sexual.
Why is it so hard to believe that one might feel love for even more people? Monogamous definitions ignore human nature... especially since sex in the first place is more about lust than love. Even the burning, passionate kind of love one feels doesn't last... it ends withing 10 years. Our brains are wired that way, the reservoirs of chemicals run out. If you're lucky and have actually worked at your relationship it'll be replaced by something more stable and enduring. Trust, acceptance, faith in each other.
The moment you let go of your jealousy and primate directive to monopolize the sexual capacity of your partner you'll realize there's nothing preventing from this happening with more people or among a group of them. Especially, for the first, lust filled kind... it's all about chemistry and takes little to go.
...the later though takes *work*. When you have to divide your time between several people it's a lot harder to do it well. Hence why most forms of polyamory tend to be about casual sex, not stable long term relationships.
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Flaser wrote...
-Polyfidelity: Multiple people are involved in a relationship, but restrict sexual activity to within the group. This is what I would do. Just because there are STD's out there.
Spoiler:
Yes. Its alot like having ONLY ONE friend that you do everything with. When things break down between yourself and that friend you go looking for another friend. It doesnt make any sense compared with how people normally act. People normally have a handful or so of close friends and the expression "it takes a village to raise a child". So when I think about it, it makes no sense for us to monogamous. If you can find a group of people that aren't jealous or possessive and if everyone put effort into the group, a poly relationship can work quite well.
(Good luck finding such a group of people by total chance)
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I love it when Flaser lays the smackdown of knowledge. Pretty much everything thats been said. The amount of involvement necessary to make a relationship with multiple parters work is tremendous and "soul-sucking". I get worn out enough as is between work and family and dating. I can only imagine the feeling of exhaustion at providing and spending quality time with multiple wives.
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I personally think polygamy relationships are a big no no. It would require too much work to care for so many people, and too much money as well. You would have to have 50 hrs in a day to provide the amount of time and effort to keep such relations working and to also keep yourself healthy at the same time.
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
To really think about the issue, some divisions need to be made.
First, what makes it a relationship? Casual dating isn't really a full on relationship so that should be scratched off.
And it requires everyone involved to have knowledge of everyone as well to be considered part of the criteria, so cheating is a no no.
And serious, as in you see it being long-term and not just short-term situation.
How do you rate it being successful?
Factors: Relationship lasts. No one breaks off during the relationship, or at least enough people remain to consist of more than just two people.
Relative happiness. Everyone involve has consistently more relative happiness with the situation than being depressed.
Let's just keep it at that so we don't make it confusing.
Well first off, to make it successful, everyone would have to remain relatively happy with the situation. That means that people could not experience great levels of jealousy in the situation.
To really achieve that, is easier said than done. When you care about something, consider it important, you tend to be selfish about it. Relationships are no different. I mean why should you have to share your important thing with someone else in the same important manner.
Also consider this feeling. If they have multiple people they are in a relationship, that means that their time and feelings spent have to be divided. That means you make up less of their life with each addition of a partner. So not only would the person feel less important to their important person, they realistically would be.
This would lower the level of happiness in anyone.
So to avoid this, the person would have to have pretty much be incredibly submissive to the person, or have a mostly platonic sense in the romance side of the relationship. Either way, these conditions would not lead to a lasting successful relationship. The relationship would change form over time, and it would either break apart, or it would create a sense of unhappiness in multiple people involved.
And that doesn't even get into the topic of having children involved in the situation.
I don't think I need to go how messy it would be when multiple children or even just a child from one mother or one father would completely alter things in these types of relationships.
And that is only two factors to consider. Given human nature and psychology, having a realistic multiple partner relationship that is successful just given two standards to follow is nearly impossible. Give it even more standards and you pretty much bump up to impossible.
Most people who do multiple partner relationships either aren't in a real form of it, or haven't been in them very long. The only realistic way to have multiple partners would be to just treat it like a breeding pool.
Which honestly, that would just eliminate a lot of things that make humans humans.
You can say sex is only about lust, but that's not exactly true. You can only make it about lust, that is right. But you can also make it much more than just lust, and the experience is completely different. Just like a serious romantic relationship is different than a casual one, different than a family relationship and different than a parental one.
Yes humans are designed for having multiple relationships, but there is a lot more evidence through their interactions and emotions to suggest we developed more towards a monogamous romantic relationship than poly. If we hadn't, feelings of jealousy, betrayal and such would not be so universal in our species.
First, what makes it a relationship? Casual dating isn't really a full on relationship so that should be scratched off.
And it requires everyone involved to have knowledge of everyone as well to be considered part of the criteria, so cheating is a no no.
And serious, as in you see it being long-term and not just short-term situation.
How do you rate it being successful?
Factors: Relationship lasts. No one breaks off during the relationship, or at least enough people remain to consist of more than just two people.
Relative happiness. Everyone involve has consistently more relative happiness with the situation than being depressed.
Let's just keep it at that so we don't make it confusing.
Well first off, to make it successful, everyone would have to remain relatively happy with the situation. That means that people could not experience great levels of jealousy in the situation.
To really achieve that, is easier said than done. When you care about something, consider it important, you tend to be selfish about it. Relationships are no different. I mean why should you have to share your important thing with someone else in the same important manner.
Also consider this feeling. If they have multiple people they are in a relationship, that means that their time and feelings spent have to be divided. That means you make up less of their life with each addition of a partner. So not only would the person feel less important to their important person, they realistically would be.
This would lower the level of happiness in anyone.
So to avoid this, the person would have to have pretty much be incredibly submissive to the person, or have a mostly platonic sense in the romance side of the relationship. Either way, these conditions would not lead to a lasting successful relationship. The relationship would change form over time, and it would either break apart, or it would create a sense of unhappiness in multiple people involved.
And that doesn't even get into the topic of having children involved in the situation.
I don't think I need to go how messy it would be when multiple children or even just a child from one mother or one father would completely alter things in these types of relationships.
And that is only two factors to consider. Given human nature and psychology, having a realistic multiple partner relationship that is successful just given two standards to follow is nearly impossible. Give it even more standards and you pretty much bump up to impossible.
Most people who do multiple partner relationships either aren't in a real form of it, or haven't been in them very long. The only realistic way to have multiple partners would be to just treat it like a breeding pool.
Which honestly, that would just eliminate a lot of things that make humans humans.
You can say sex is only about lust, but that's not exactly true. You can only make it about lust, that is right. But you can also make it much more than just lust, and the experience is completely different. Just like a serious romantic relationship is different than a casual one, different than a family relationship and different than a parental one.
Yes humans are designed for having multiple relationships, but there is a lot more evidence through their interactions and emotions to suggest we developed more towards a monogamous romantic relationship than poly. If we hadn't, feelings of jealousy, betrayal and such would not be so universal in our species.
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Blackcatdemon wrote...
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AvatarEnd wrote...
Through your experiences in high school? What the hell high school did you go to where polygamist relationships were the norm?Polygamist relationships work great in fantasy. The majority are fucked up situations in real life.
I've personally experienced a polygamous relationship though, it was more of a Ménage à trois but, the relationship did occur during high school.
Though, on the topic of polygamy I believe that consenting adults can enter into any arrangement they seem fit. So long as everyone involved is consenting then I see no problem and say "more power to them."