Porn, Abuse, and Women

Hey Fakkers, quick question, relatively long read.

Most of you guys (and I guess girls-- not sure if this applies to girls because of the content of my post) look at porn and view it as an artform or a form of entertainment (sexual entertainment). By that, I mean you look at it as a way to pleasure your eyes, mind or your body. For most people that's all there is to porn and all there ever will be to it. But did you know that a bit more than a handful of women are abused behind the scenes, when it comes to porn?

(I know this is a hentai site, so feel free to sue me if talking about real porn is illegal here.)

Getting back on track, whether you knew it or not, quite a few (that means... not all) women are abused behind the scene. Some are abused on camera. The following two videos are a good example of the said abuse (but you don't need to watch them to understand what I'm talking about -- Might help though).

http://www.efukt.com/20566_Healthy_Alternatives_To_Anal_Sex.html
http://www.efukt.com/20565_Titty_Destruction.html

Sometimes it's worse than those videos and results in psycological trauma.

Anyway, the point of this thread isn't to give you information that's probably useless to you.
I want to know if any of you are bothered by this, or phased knowing it?
Does it ever occur to you that the women you see as a sex object is more than just a quick thing for you to look at.. but actually a person who could possibly be dealing with emotional pain and shit because of how the business is run? It's a lot like child porn (suffering behind the image idea).

Discuss.

Don't think I need to say it, but I posted in the Serious Discussion section. I expect more than a few words in an answer, even if my question isn't completely open ended. Elaborate a little, have fun with it. Oh, and I guess this is my introductory thread, since I won't be making another.

No this is different from professional porn. And although I find it weird for a question regarding porn here. Anyway back to question at hand.

Of course I would be phased by this (I'm not sure about the others but I'm sure that some of them will). The point of the porn industry was that they enjoyed having sex and that they consented on having sex.

That being said, some women are desperate for money and are willing to go through extreme measures to earn that. But maybe these women aren't even desperate, maybe they got dragged in to it.

The main problem is, that the website isn't one of those official websites that are governed by law. This statement is according to just seeing one page, so I apologize if I'm wrong.

Oh, and welcome to Fakku(hehe?)

I agreed with most of what you said...in my opinion low class porn isnt really much trilling like nice porn sites that i know of.

Three things in regards to the posts (or two post) before mine and possibly.. future post/readers.

1. I forgot to mention that I know that most women agree to these things (give some form of consent), while others are dragged into it. That doesn't change my opinion on the matter that much.

2. I know efuckt is the type of site where you kind of see the worst of porn, so it may not seem like a reliable source or may make my first post highly eligible for criticism. But it's one of the few sites where I can show you these things through video.

3. I meant to include the previously listed things, as well as other things in my first post, but nobody seems to like reading a wall of text.

That's all. Oh, and thank you for the welcoming(s).

Out of topic, gomenasai but are you perhaps Cebuano?

I agree to zeronum2 that it is different to professional form. This is actually disturbing because many who(unlike, us hentai lovers) enjoy this type of porn, doesn't know what happens behind the scenes.


welcome to fakku!

EFukt is a magnet for a bunch of fucked up amateur porn. It doesn't represent the way the porn industry is, nevertheless really represents what amateur porn artists are up to.

I don't know, I don't buy it. I seriously doubt porn artists are abused in anyway. After all, they have to sign contract after contract specifically stating what they will and will not do on camera. Worst, they might not get many roles if they are picky, but they certainly aren't being abused on or off camera.

@Polter
Thanks for the response and welcoming.

@Tsurayu
I don't think you caught onto a lot of what I typed out or are willing to accept any of it. Looking at the content of your post, you probably don't think any of this is legit. I had a feeling people would say something about Efuckt which is why I wrote this (maybe you missed it).



I believe that abuse does happen, and I did some research on the topic before making this thread, to avoid looking stupid. So I'm pretty sure that it happens, even with professional porn, not just sites like Efuckt.

All of that aside, I asked for opinions and you provided me with one. So either way, thanks.

I read it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with any of it. I don't believe it is true. I'm not willing to go through documentation one way or another. I just don't care that much about it one way or another. I suppose maybe I shouldn't have posted if I wasn't, but a little late for that now. *shrugs*

I hope I didn't offend you. It looks like I did though.

Rest assured, your opinion is valued and I'm willing to accept it. I simply didn't quite get how you couldn't consider believing what I presented to you (not saying you have to). Hmmn, but I guess certain things are a bit hard to believe, eh?

Just. . . don't take it personally.

I'm not offended. I'm not going to sugarcoat it or anything. I've actually seen those clips before, and I don't think it comes close to representing a growing problem. It's just a handful of people who have some odd fetishes. Nothing more, nothing less.

I have a feeling that such abuse only happens in low budget porn or amateur porn. Professional porn actresses get paid quite well and the abuse wouldn't be as apparent because they can't afford to have bruises or pains during filming. As Tsurayu already stated, professional porn actresses need to sign a contract before filming a scene which means that if she is abused then there is a legitimate excuse to bring this into court.

It's most likely only the amateur porn or girls who are desperate for money that are abused in such ways. I'm not a fan of these things but there are many people who are. I won't fault them for their fetishes but it is a bit disturbing. Although, these girls are willing to do these things for the money which makes this partly their own doing.

My opinion on strippers and porn actresses is that they are all scum. They sell their bodies and give away their dignity to earn easy money. I don't give a fuck if you say they are abused. They agree to be filmed during those sexual acts. It's not like they're forced into doing it.
You mentioned CP. Now that is forcing the other person (child) into sex (or fooling. Since mostly they're too young to fully understand what is going on). I don't pity porn actresses, I detest them. (that's the reason why the only porn I watch is homemade porn = not in for the money (or at least it isn't suposed to be))

Try not to take my post too seriously (if it offends you). It's merely how I think of the subject.

Kuroneko1/2
Your post was the funniest in the thread (not that being funny was a goal), so I'm far from offended. Oh, and that doesn't mean I didn't take it seriously (just because the way you wrote it may me laugh). Good that you weren't offended either, Tsurayu (I thought you were).

Shiori, for the most part, it does happen in low budget porn. And from the looks of things, most of you only watch professional porn, if ever watching real porn. Maybe that's why some of don't seem to have any form of remorse or anything.

Thanks for the opinion, Fakkers.

What the hell. I made you laugh with my post?

A person willingly signs a contract with another person and as long as the people who signed the contract are well informed of what is to be expected then I see no problem. It's called informed consent. As for misinforming, misleading or intimidating the girls into these acts. I say sue the companies, bankrupt them then throw the men responsible in prison.

I'm predicting that this thread will turn into a Heather Veitch & Shelly Lubben style crusade to destroy the porn industry. That's just a hunch though.

I was just wondering the same thing. :/

At times, I have a pretty weird sense of humor.




Maybe your hunch is correct, if people take the issue to an extreme. While I'm not exactly fond of what I showed in the videos, I'm not too bothered by them and feel no need for a huge debate. I really just wanted to see how people felt about the issue. The videos just made me think a little. My sister is no porn actor or anything, but seeing those videos and watching the crying girls made me imagine her (as wrong as that may sound, it's not in a sexual way). The thought of seeing her cry isn't exactly one that I'm pleased with and that video just made a few women who I know come to mind.

So yeah.. I was curious as to if this bothered anyone any.

Anyway, as you (and a few others pointed out), there is usually (if not always) some form of consent. So I don't blame the businesses or feel they're responsible (assuming the girls knew what they were getting themselves into/could see it in print). Sadly, outside of the porn industry, there are women who are forced into doing videos like this or who are in sexually abusive relationships. Those are the main videos and ideas that I was pretty much getting at. Don't think I made it clear enough.. but I guess I have now (somewhat).

Alright i looked at one of your examples: the second one with the chick
she said she didn't want anal and would do anything, and the dude said the dog, and she agreed herself, could've said"lets just not do anal" so i think that was a bad example of the point u were trying to make.

This.

Besides if you're going to start working in the porn industry you'll have to be on your toes anyway, it's not like your working with the most trustworthy individuals of society anyway.