Teen Pregnancy.
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cheiba wrote...
I think its not only the media's fault but also the parent's. Kids are growing up to a desensitized society where sex & pregnancy is a norm and having shows like 16 and preg just makes it seem like its "cool" to be preggers. Then you have parents continually telling their kids not to have sex before marriage or something like that or just saying its wrong. Seriously? When kids are exposed to sex in the media like this, who's to stop them? Parents are failing to explain that kids have to practice safe sex, even if they're against their kids having sex so early. It's a lot better than them being friggin pregnant or catching some dirty ass std.
I also blame Twilight. I haven't read it myself but from what I hear, Bella marries Edward at 18 and gets pregnant. Then you have that werewolf dude getting on with their daughter? Lol wtf? Anyways, back to my point...Twilight is evil and the antichrist.
I hate Twilight and Teen Mom shows too, but I don't think they're a reason for teen pregnancy. They're merely some of many media and social factors that normalize it.
In fact, at least in the US, teen pregnancy rates have actually DROPPED in recent years.
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I have to sid you can't blame the media. Really I think a couple months back they reported a survey that teens pregnancy rates had drop some. I remember last month a teen was on the news doing a report on begin pregnant. She wasn't really pregnant but pretend to be. She wanted to see people reaction and how they will treat her only a few people knew what she had done.
You really can't blame the media. Usually, it the people they hang around and the information they be telling them.
You really can't blame the media. Usually, it the people they hang around and the information they be telling them.
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The graduating class before mine had about 20% of its women pregnant or had given birth in the previous year. Well, all I can say is that there were a lot of people who through away their future. And seeing as how a little less than half of that class failed and had to repeat, the future of those children does not look good. As to why things like this seem to happen, its pretty simple. People are becoming more and more irresponsible and spoiled. They don't think about the future, or possible repercussions for their actions. The spoiled aspect is simply that they get what they want. In certain cases, it is as simple as wanting a baby for the sake of having one. Other times, they want a baby to show that they and their partner have (and I quote) "Only the truest and purest love" or that they experience feelings that no one else could possibly understand. Upon meeting a former class mate (A senior who was held back twice) who was pregnant both in the year before mine and the year in my class, I had learned she was pregnant again (allow me to explain; three pregnancies, three different guys, same excuse about love that I posted above). After some brief (insulting... not from me initially) words, I told that I sincerely hope she goes the same route of "La Llorona" and walked away.
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Throw away the baby handle more serious.
CASE throw away the baby should be raised to become major issues that led to the punishment commensurate to the offenders. There is no word of an appropriate for us to illustrate the cruelty done.
It is entitled is equal to murder another. Thus, offenders who were involved should be brought to prove the noose. This is an opinion that requires in-depth details to bring awareness to the community.
I agree with the opinion of the Chief of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan that the father of the toddler must also be dragged to justice and receive the same sentence. The maximum penalty 20 years imprisonment does not give effect to the 'baby killer' is. Appropriate sentence under review, but let it be very appropriate to the level of criminal conduct it.
Babies are born perfect human nature is recognized as eligible for the normal legal protection as other people. Just a baby does not have any strength to defend itself in the form of energy or hide. Did the baby born in the normal state is an act of killing people.
If errors kill ended the noose, there is no difference with the offense to remove the baby leading to the death to the baby.
Prison sentence can be practiced if the baby was found in a still life. But the proposal to bring the two men to justice is brutally accurate. Causes of treatment rather than throw the baby begins at the woman, but clearly the cause of inhuman deed came from both father and mother.
CASE throw away the baby should be raised to become major issues that led to the punishment commensurate to the offenders. There is no word of an appropriate for us to illustrate the cruelty done.
It is entitled is equal to murder another. Thus, offenders who were involved should be brought to prove the noose. This is an opinion that requires in-depth details to bring awareness to the community.
I agree with the opinion of the Chief of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan that the father of the toddler must also be dragged to justice and receive the same sentence. The maximum penalty 20 years imprisonment does not give effect to the 'baby killer' is. Appropriate sentence under review, but let it be very appropriate to the level of criminal conduct it.
Babies are born perfect human nature is recognized as eligible for the normal legal protection as other people. Just a baby does not have any strength to defend itself in the form of energy or hide. Did the baby born in the normal state is an act of killing people.
If errors kill ended the noose, there is no difference with the offense to remove the baby leading to the death to the baby.
Prison sentence can be practiced if the baby was found in a still life. But the proposal to bring the two men to justice is brutally accurate. Causes of treatment rather than throw the baby begins at the woman, but clearly the cause of inhuman deed came from both father and mother.
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A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)
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Nekohime wrote...
A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)Abortion is murder,Unless you're a victim of rape.
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Mr.TifaLockhart wrote...
Nekohime wrote...
A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)Abortion is murder,Unless you're a victim of rape.
Regardless, you are victim or not~!
It doesn`t change the meaning that you Kill them.
They have right to live..
Even if they are illegitimate child...
They are innocent..They have no wrong~!!
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hackeri0tasuki wrote...
Mr.TifaLockhart wrote...
Nekohime wrote...
A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)Abortion is murder,Unless you're a victim of rape.
Regardless, you victim or not~!
It doesn`t change the meaning that you Kill them.
They have right to live..
Even if they are illegitimate child...
True, But having a abortion because you just don't want the baby i say is different from aborting a pregnancy from somebody that raped you.
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Mr.TifaLockhart wrote...
Nekohime wrote...
A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)Abortion is murder,Unless you're a victim of rape.
I've never understood the logic behind the "abortion is murder unless X" statement. It either is, or isn't murder in ALL cases.
The definition of murder is this: the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Let's set aside the legality of abortion for now--it IS definitely legal in the US.
Killing of a human being: we can argue about this until the cows come home, but foetuses are not considered human beings under law. You personally may believe that they are human beings, but the law is what we should be referring to.
Malice aforethought: you could argue that abortion does have malice aforethought, because you are knowingly going in for a medical procedure that will kill the foetus. But anyway, 2 out of 3 of the definitions of murder are not satisfied by abortion, so legally, it is not murder.
Let's just say though, as a thought experiment, that abortion is considered murder. Killing a foetus even if it was a result of rape? That would be murder. Women are charged with murder, after all, if they go out and kill their rapist after the fact, and not in self-defence during the act. The only legal reason to commit abortion would be for self-defence--that is, if the woman's had valid reasons to believe that the pregnancy was going to kill or harm her. In that case, it would be a justifiable homicide rather than murder, and would be the only legally accepted reason for abortion.
In any case, I'm glad that the US does not consider abortion as murder. Forcing a woman to carry a child to term is unconscionable.
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Funny how the topic has changed to abortion, but I feel strongly for this matter so I'll join along. I question those that say abortion as immoral as well. Which would you consider to be worse, to end the life a being before it reaches consciousness or make that being come to a life of malnourishment, stressed parents, and likely eventual death due to either starvation or mistreatment?
People don't choose abortion because they feel like killing babies or simply because they feel inconvenienced. Many choose it because they're unable to support themselves let along a demanding baby. Some pro-life may argue that those women should just apply for welfare and other support that the government provides, but that's not as easily accessible as most would believe and don't support any mother nearly enough with all the cuts the government has made. Worse (going back to the main topic for a moment) is if the mother is a teenager. Where will she find work to support and pay for herself and the baby? Would she even get support from her family considering she brought shame to it? Will the man support the girl or child? Can she even hope to further her education now that she's responsible for the toddler and have to work? How will the child grow up psychologically knowing or eventually finding out that his mother is a shameful identity in the eyes of society?
Another argument made against abortion is how those mothers should simply apply their child to adoption seeing as there are millions of potential adopters out there. However, the number of orphans already far exceed the number of potential adopters and grows at an astronomically faster rate. Not only that, this rate is WITH abortion legal; just imagine the rate of orphans with abortion banned.
I don't like the idea of destroying life as much as the next person, but I think most people need to grasp that abortion isn't an act of cruelty but an act of mercy. Forcing the birth of children into already down-trodden families is arguably a form of torture for them. Abortion is essentially (for many, not all) an act of euthanasia because not all children are born into a happy life with a welcoming family.
People don't choose abortion because they feel like killing babies or simply because they feel inconvenienced. Many choose it because they're unable to support themselves let along a demanding baby. Some pro-life may argue that those women should just apply for welfare and other support that the government provides, but that's not as easily accessible as most would believe and don't support any mother nearly enough with all the cuts the government has made. Worse (going back to the main topic for a moment) is if the mother is a teenager. Where will she find work to support and pay for herself and the baby? Would she even get support from her family considering she brought shame to it? Will the man support the girl or child? Can she even hope to further her education now that she's responsible for the toddler and have to work? How will the child grow up psychologically knowing or eventually finding out that his mother is a shameful identity in the eyes of society?
Another argument made against abortion is how those mothers should simply apply their child to adoption seeing as there are millions of potential adopters out there. However, the number of orphans already far exceed the number of potential adopters and grows at an astronomically faster rate. Not only that, this rate is WITH abortion legal; just imagine the rate of orphans with abortion banned.
I don't like the idea of destroying life as much as the next person, but I think most people need to grasp that abortion isn't an act of cruelty but an act of mercy. Forcing the birth of children into already down-trodden families is arguably a form of torture for them. Abortion is essentially (for many, not all) an act of euthanasia because not all children are born into a happy life with a welcoming family.
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on the teen pregnancy topic...I think it's all about how many information children get especially at home, some people just don't want to realize that they children are interested in sex (or soon will be) as they are them self, letting only the school/government educate your child on sexuality is just plain stupid....I was so scared of getting pregnant some 10 years ago that I took the pill, used a condom and made him pull out at the same time -.-
and now on the abortion topic that evolved...but let me ask a question first, when is a person considered dead?
and now on the abortion topic that evolved...but let me ask a question first, when is a person considered dead?
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If you lack the funds or will to take care of a child you ought not participate in activities that can get you or your partner pregnant. If you morally or financially cannot afford an abortion then you also should not participate in these activities.
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Neruku wrote...
and now on the abortion topic that evolved...but let me ask a question first, when is a person considered dead?Legally, it is defined as the "irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain."
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I don't understand why these teens couldn't just keep the plastic on. Sure it breaks sometimes, but then there's plan B n shit, it's just ridiculous to me that these underaged women are throwing there lives away
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
"Funfact", about 2/3 of natural pregnancies end in miscarriage as the zygote fails to properly anchor itself in the womb. So to all the "pro life" lunatics out there: if there's a God he's the greatest abortionist ever, think of all the poor, poor zygotes! If only a crazy scientist was along with his test tubes they could all be raised to proper humans, but God doesn't roll like that...
For fucks sake, we're talking about a collection of cells here. Less living matter than what you shed each day, through shit scraping your anus when you're on the crapper. No it's *not* a human being and abortion is *not* murder as this collection of cells is far from having *any* of the qualities that makes a human.
Going by the same logic you could prosecute woman who menstruate, for they haven't been knocked up... all those eggs are wasted yet they could've become a living a human! (...or not) ...or prosecute guys jerking off... all those poor sperm! Never mind that only a single one of the myriad would "get lucky" even in the best case... or less... getting a girl pregnant is not a given thing.
There is *no* logical reason against abortion when the girl is young, without income of their own and the US is already doing everything it can to kill the poor.
For fucks sake, we're talking about a collection of cells here. Less living matter than what you shed each day, through shit scraping your anus when you're on the crapper. No it's *not* a human being and abortion is *not* murder as this collection of cells is far from having *any* of the qualities that makes a human.
Going by the same logic you could prosecute woman who menstruate, for they haven't been knocked up... all those eggs are wasted yet they could've become a living a human! (...or not) ...or prosecute guys jerking off... all those poor sperm! Never mind that only a single one of the myriad would "get lucky" even in the best case... or less... getting a girl pregnant is not a given thing.
There is *no* logical reason against abortion when the girl is young, without income of their own and the US is already doing everything it can to kill the poor.
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Whether abortions are humane or not can be debated on and on forever, but on the topic of teen pregnancies, they are pretty fucked up. To think at a young age of 15 or so to bring another human being like yourself into this world, when you can't support the baby financially or emotionally. The mothers life is pretty much over as unless they put the child up for adoption, the teen usually drops out of High School and the emotional damage that they put the baby up to when they grow up is unfair. It's pretty messed up to think that your mom was a teenager when she conceived you.
Just use a contraceptives or a fucking condom for christs sake.
Just use a contraceptives or a fucking condom for christs sake.
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Unfortunately in most cases, teens rarely plan ahead when it comes to such things, isn't it mostly "living the moment" in high school? The best that anyone can do is provide information as best they can and not just the "abstinence is the best choice" solution because you really can't say "BAD, DO NOT DO" to a high school student and hope it works, because when you really think about it, teens usually like to push the limits don't they? I would say a good option is to inform about what happens in the future if some teens actually do decide to "have fun," and encourage use of protection, because honestly, it's like talking to an enthusiastic recruit that's about to go off to the battlefield, might as well tell them "fine go, but here, wear this body armor and helmet first if you want to come back in one piece."
As to the topic of abortion...that's controversial and straying off topic, and it could go on forever.
As to the topic of abortion...that's controversial and straying off topic, and it could go on forever.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
The difficulty in acquiring the morning after pill probably also contributes to the high number of teenage moms. In most European countries you can get these through the medical emergency services. It makes sense to provide it too as the pill costs a lot less then an abortion for the state.
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I personally think that many of them are just stupid and willingly had sex with who ever they wanted(raw) without thinking about consequences, with the exception of rape victims and whatnot. rather much I shouldn't really dwell into this topic too much
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Mr.TifaLockhart wrote...
Nekohime wrote...
A new study actually found that shows like 16 and Pregnant actually increase support for abortion. (Source.)Abortion is murder,Unless you're a victim of rape.
...because somehow rape makes a different genetic being?
No.
Rape or not, abortion isn't "murder" if it's done before a certain term.