The Universe

To my simple mind it also seems that there is a... err.. "Purple screen world" somewhere. Or was, or will be.

I have also ran across this theory, but the infinite time is definetely a big part of it. So if due to not infinite matter the purple world isn't right now, it sooner or later will be.

Well, I'm glad that you responded, but you didn't really comprehend my post.

You said:

When I said:


I'd be happy to explain why the accepted theory of universe creation states that it has finite matter, but could you explain to me why it has infinite matter?

Just because the universe is infinite doesn't mean that there is automatically life on other planets besides the one we reside on. How you got to that conclusion is beyond me.

Although I guess this is hypothetical, then yes, it is possible (or probable. Whichever).

There are large leaps in logic in that post my friend.

First of all, we do not know whether the universe is infinite; since we know that the universe is in fact expanding, chances are rather high that it is NOT infinite.

But lets got along with that anyway, say that we believe that the universe is infinite; there is still no reason for it to be the way you say it can be unless you count parallel universes.

While if the universe as you say is infinite, there is no saying that the infinite number of possibilities have occurred in this way. While there are many planets, many solar system, and many, MANY galaxies, their number is hardly infinite.

If there is not an infinite number of places where the infinite possibilities can occur in the exact same way as here, then there are a just as great chance that there are no other world that is exactly the same as our, as it is that there exist such a world (even with the same color of screens).

Believing that the universe expands infinitely does not mean that you believe that the contents of the universe does.

Also:


As the laws of Physics states, Something can not come from Nothing. Not even the universe. As you said yourself, the universe came from an explosion of matter, not an explosion of Nothing.

The universe was an infinitely small point of mass and density.



Not complete sure, but I always thought of it as "loop".

Who knows, there might be other types of matter out there beyond our reach that has created another big bang. Since the universe is indeed "big" it might not be on our sights but it probably happened on the corner of the universe. We can't possibly prove the universe is finite if we can't reach the end of the rainbow.

:lol:

And yes we do exist. What's your point? Our existence in the universe doesn't create life on other planets.

It was as Guilty Guardian said a dense mass of compressed matter. How that came to be, I do not know, nor do I know what surrounded it (possibly the same thing that is beyond the borders of the universe?). This is not possible for us to answer. It brings us to a much more... not illogical, but confusing (to say the least) concept; the concept of Time. You have to know if it had a beginning, when it begun, what was before it and why did it begin, to reach an answer on a such cosmological magnitude.

What is beyond it is not possible for me to answer either, and will most likely not be answered before humans find a way to see what is beyond the speed of light. But my position remains; since the universe are expanding (and this we know, more or less), it should not be infinite. But whatever it is, it must be something that do not hold any kind of matter, time or space at all.

No.


It didn't come from nothing?


I only know of one, barring Creationism.


The big bang theory states that all matter was condensed in one area, an incredibly dense area. That means, however, that the amount of matter is finite.


Another big bang? Do you understand what kind of conditions would have to be present for that to happen? The big bang would be very much a one time event.

That depends, we can not be sure that there are not other universes (not parallel) outside the borders of our own, which could make it possible for there to be other Big Bangs (or dense areas of matter).

Expansion can be consider as a way to create infinity, as the thing continue to expands, the limited possibility increase and at some point it will infinite.

I never said that couldn't be a possibility. I am saying that within our universe, there can not be another big bang.

I don't suppose you can explain why it would have to be a one time event? Feel free to just link to articles, I don't expect you to have it memorized.

You want me to do the equivalent of explaining why humans can only be born once?

I love how this is brought up as if it's something that was made up on the spot and we have to choose whether or not to believe in it or make up bullshit stories about how invisible matter is being spit out from nowhere. Lol, our sitting with dark matter.

My "sitting" on this subject is that the scientists know what the fuck they're talking about, and if the evidence shows that there is more gravity affecting matter than can be accounted for with visible matter, then mysterious matter that we can't see but still has an impact on visible matter called Dark Matter seems like a reasonable enough explanation to me.

Fun fact: Your argument is based on conjecture. Tegumi's is based on evidence.

At least not one of the same magnitude, no. Though I guess the phenomena wouldn't be a Big Bang if the "bang" wasn't just as "big".

No, I wanted you to explain why you think "our" Big Bang is definitely a unique event and not perhaps one of many. Certainly individual humans being born again won't happen but multiple humans do get born.