Virgins being raped -- Still virgins?

you can have a plastic surgeon repair a hymen thus you'd be a "virgin" again.
But I'd have to agree that your only a virgin once

That does about sound like a traditional definition of it.
Bleh, I dunno. I place so little value on this ephemeral concept that my answer was probably bullshit. I guess the most honest answer would be "once someone has accrued considerable sexual experience with someone other than themselves", but I think there are no universal criteria to that.

I don't follow the "holy virgin" concept anymore simply because it rarely exists, and in the end, it doesn't matter as long as the girl you like isn't a sex-hungry slut who isn't loyal.

-2 rep for making a valid response in SD? Who would have thought. I stand by my first post in this thread; once raped, you aren't a virgin.

I think it's because you said it in a way that didn't sound all that nice. When it comes down to it, you were telling it like it is. However, maybe others didn't like the way you said it so... perhaps harshly.

It's because you made it sound like being raped wasn't a big deal, and telling the girl to just "get over it"? Seriously? Have you ever known a girl who was the victim of a sexual assault (rape or not)? As I mentioned in an earlier post here, I was molested for three years, and while there was no rape, and while it's been almost seven years since he left, the thought of seeing him again TERRIFIES me, even knowing he's on the other side of the country. The knowledge that he probably would have raped me had it gone on much longer really scares the CRAP out of me. I'm glad it's over, but the damage is done.

I understand your view on this, there are definitely two types of sex.

1) Sex for sex AKA advanced masturbation with another person.
2) Passionate sex where feelings are involved AKA making love.

Obviously someone who is raped is no longer a "virgin". But they definitely haven't experienced sex the way it should be experienced.

Second that.
Jacob knows the deal.

Physically a virgin, no.
Mentally a virgin, yes.

Yumeko-chan is losing her cool..

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I think, Yes, They are virgins in a way.. Just like Sir Jacob said, she hadn't had any Real Sex..

I know it came off that way, but I couldn't figure out a way to reword it. But that's how I feel. I'm sorry. It just annoys me when people tell others to "get over" something so personal as a sexual assault, because it's just not possible, and if there is, I haven't found a way yet.

You were incredibly insensitive. That's why you got -2 rep. It's like saying, "Your mom got killed by a mugger? Well, the guy just wanted her money. So what? Get over it. Happens all the time."

If your point was, "once raped, you aren't a virgin," then you should have said that. Not make it sound as if rape isn't a big thing.



Isn't that fucking crazy? As if having your hymen intact was some great thing that made the experience so much better.

Though I do remember a Time magazine article I read a few years back about a girl who got the surgery because she wasn't a virgin and was about to get married. She said that if her new husband and family found out that she had had sex before, they would probably beat her to death (in all seriousness), because she was unpure or not innocent or whatever.

...Common thought, rape is forced sex. Virginity, 2 popular meaning. 1. No real sex in any form such as BJ. 2. Just the female organ is not penetrated yet.

I prefer more to consider that Yumeko-chan is virgin to mutual loving sex but is not virgin in penetration.

I never said I was raped. And although my "ex" never threatened to, I certainly felt like it was gonna escalate to that if what he was doing wasn't stopped.

I'm kinda, rush reading. I shouldn't have wrote your name. Soory T T.

That's ok. As for the virgin part I did remain a virgin (in every aspect) through my three-year "trial" with my "ex," and after that it took me a while to trust again, and once me and my b/f started dating it took a while to get comfortable with the aspect of physical intimacy, but he never rushed me in anything.

Even with my "ex" on the other side of the country I still get terrified he'll show up out of nowhere. Whenever I see an Explorer that looks like his I check the license plate to make sure it's not a Mississippi plate (where he lives now). Heck, I have more bad dreams about him than I do about the shooting (the "main" PTSD event I referred to in one of the first posts here).

And yet I translate doujins as a side hobby. Oh, the irony =P

I'd love to "get over it" as TehMikuruSlave suggested, but it ain't that easy.

And now I think I've totally derailed my own topic...

So you weren't raped, you're just acting like it. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

While not as extreme as rape, molestation is still a violation of the body. What is so hard about that to understand? Those were three years that I should've spent processing the shooting in my mind, NOT trying to avoid his hands.

Geez, what would you tell a four-year-old whose grandpa touched her in her no-no place? That she wasn't raped, so she shouldn't make a big deal of it?

I get that, it is just that your response to me said nothing about molestation. I didn't read your response which you edited afterwards, so there was no way for me to know this. And if you were being molested for 3 years, I'm sorry but that is your fault. you could have put an end to it earlier, so I'm sorry if I sound insensitive and such, but I'm just being truthful.


Why would I know how to react in that situation? I've never encountered it, and therefor do not know what I would tell that little girl.

On a final note, I'd like to point out that I've had 3 young girls in my home who were victims of sexual assault, who then proceeded to sexually assault my sister. Don't tell me I've never seen this.

First off, do us all a favor and zip it for awhile. It was her fault? She asked to be molested? Slave, oftentimes, women cannot escape potentially abusive relationships. She obviously feared her boyfriend; like she said, she was in constant fear that she was going to be violently assaulted, and that the memories are causing her more issues than a shooting.



I'm afraid to gain a shred of credibility after your previous remarks you'll need to provide sufficient explanation to back up your statement 'I know what I'm talking about.'