We are Anonymous.
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K-1 wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
Oh and just for a note: XD pretty much every person uses Facebook now, why would anyone vote to take it down?! Meh again, alot of our roots and current status is that of a troll and mainly, we're just stupid denizens of the Internet, why not suggest a show of power?It makes us look cool right? meh well if enough of us thought like that you would have not been using Facebook yesterday.A few months ago, Anonymous said that they were going to take down Facebook on November 5th, to show that it sucks or something. There was even a thread about it here on Fakku.
I believe I posted on that thread what I thought about that,Again, Anonymous as a whole never says it will do something,they just announce that members will do something, in this case, while someone did want to do this, not enough people were in agreement and resources were diverted to actions against the mexican drug cartel and occupy.For a entity like anonymous to say they would do something as attacking Facebook would be on par as Fakku's forums all agreeing to hate lolis.Besides, unless a subgroup decides to, there is not enough power within invididual members to do si
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Anonymous are akin to activist groups like Greenpeace. Nothing more than scare-tactic based activist groups who are bigger terrorists than the people and ideas they try to supplant.
There is a big difference between fighting for what you believe in with humility, a shred of respect, and dare I say honor - actually protesting and fighting against the ideas that you do not respect; and those groups who act like vile and underhanded individuals.
I get that they think that mindset is necessary because they are fighting evil corporations and government who would as soon spit in your face rather than look at you, but that does not translate to actual groups in the world who have to literally terrorize the groups they are fighting in order to get their point across. But the legitimacy of terrorist organizations is for another discussion. Suffice it say, no one in the United States should feel justified by being terrorists, including Anonymous.
They are a bunch of individuals who are too cowardly to try to make changes in bold fashions by showing themselves and their discontent with protests and rallies. They are nothing more than common criminals who I believe at this point, enjoy their half-assed power they hold in scaring people rather than the injustices they claim to be fighting against. Pathetic.
There is a big difference between fighting for what you believe in with humility, a shred of respect, and dare I say honor - actually protesting and fighting against the ideas that you do not respect; and those groups who act like vile and underhanded individuals.
I get that they think that mindset is necessary because they are fighting evil corporations and government who would as soon spit in your face rather than look at you, but that does not translate to actual groups in the world who have to literally terrorize the groups they are fighting in order to get their point across. But the legitimacy of terrorist organizations is for another discussion. Suffice it say, no one in the United States should feel justified by being terrorists, including Anonymous.
They are a bunch of individuals who are too cowardly to try to make changes in bold fashions by showing themselves and their discontent with protests and rallies. They are nothing more than common criminals who I believe at this point, enjoy their half-assed power they hold in scaring people rather than the injustices they claim to be fighting against. Pathetic.
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fuse123423 wrote...
We are Anonymous.We are Legion.
We are the 99%.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
If you know of them and what they do, what do you think of their actions?
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We are Legion.

Bitch please.
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Anonymous is not the 99%, Anonymous is a group of script-kiddies that think denial of service attacks will save the world. We, the people, anonymous or not, are the 99%. Anonymous is not the 99%.
My thoughts exactly.
And I quote from /b/:
Tsurayu wrote...
They are nothing more than common criminals who I believe at this point, enjoy their half-assed power they hold in scaring people rather than the injustices they claim to be fighting against. Pathetic.My thoughts exactly.
And I quote from /b/:
Anonymous wrote...
What are they thinking? Attacking Facebook? All they're going to do is enforce a crack-down of the FoI they say they're trying to protect. What do you think Obama is going to say to the American citizens when this happens? "Oh look, these people are taking away your precious Facebook, what we need to do is set up a vast security network that monitors every packet of data people send over the internet so we can make sure you guys never lose your precious Facebook again. Yeah, a total loss of privacy is what we really need to stop hackers!"
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I find hilarious and ironic that somebody here posts as a member of anonymous, I don't know the details but... are you not anonymous anymore? Are you their leader or something?
Also, rule 1 and 2
Also, rule 1 and 2
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Narvath wrote...
I find hilarious and ironic that somebody here posts as a member of anonymous, I don't know the details but... are you not anonymous anymore? Are you their leader or something?Also, rule 1 and 2
Never really said I was a member, but I can see where you got that idea from me posting this. I was just asking a broad question of what people thought of this "group". I for one agree with some of their arguments such as OP#DoxTheJudge.
[youtube]DoxTheJudge[/youtube]
P.s I really like the Microsoft Sam voice too ahaha.
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fuse123423 wrote...
Never really said I was a member, but I can see where you got that idea from me posting this. I was just asking a broad question of what people thought of this "group". I for one agree with some of their arguments such as OP#DoxTheJudge.
I was talking about Darkhilt, sorry for the confusion.
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Anonymous is basically like the Laughing Man from Ghost in the Shell. They're just individual people that gather to do stuff harmful or otherwise then disband. Personally, a whole lot of them are probably kids with low self-esteem and trying to feel important or some other form of low level existence. Otherwise they're just people who are really really bored like those hackers who take down random websites for the evilulz.
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Narvath wrote...
fuse123423 wrote...
Never really said I was a member, but I can see where you got that idea from me posting this. I was just asking a broad question of what people thought of this "group". I for one agree with some of their arguments such as OP#DoxTheJudge.
I was talking about Darkhilt, sorry for the confusion.
XD While I cannot truly say I am part of Anonymous as I refrain from giving myself or my resources for their use, no matter how just I believe the use will be, I will say I enjoy the thought that even in our day and age such things are allowed to take place and that progress is reoccurring.What I find outrageous is the blatant disregard for their opinion or stand of the opposition as once again, this isn't discussion or debatable if it's just a bunch of warmongers that mingle from those that so take the time to post some agreeable disadvantages and flaws they believe portrayed within anonymous and those that bandwagon "omg hackers = worthless no lives whereas I am a extremely valuable part of societ whose opinion iis more free than others" , regardless of my preferences and my retorts, doesn't this require a devil's advocate as obviously I'm the only person who cherishes what good may come from anonymous who as a whole portrays the human body in full with both sin and good, reasoning and trickery?
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You sure have a nice vocabulary but I"m having a hard time understanding what you said with no paragraphs and almost nonexistent punctuation.
It'sliketypingwithoutusingspacebarandexpectingpeopletounderstandwhatyousayoratleasttrytodecipheryoursentencesinthisformat.
TL;DR Clarify your thoughts :)
It'sliketypingwithoutusingspacebarandexpectingpeopletounderstandwhatyousayoratleasttrytodecipheryoursentencesinthisformat.
TL;DR Clarify your thoughts :)
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Narvath wrote...
You sure have a nice vocabulary but I"m having a hard time understanding what you said with no paragraphs and almost nonexistent punctuation. It'sliketypingwithoutusingspacebarandexpectingpeopletounderstandwhatyousayoratleasttrytodecipheryoursentencesinthisformat.
TL;DR Clarify your thoughts :)
XD srry for some reason heartburn caused me to enter some sort of fire and brimstone type of invoked prose. anyways, while I am not anonymous,as I do not hold claim to being hailed from their existence, hence my "the plan" sig, the sign of a supporter, I do support and find hope in such noble prospects, so that one day, we may be lead into a dawn where free thought is not squandered. I'm butthurt by the fact that this discussion has become into some ideas as to why anonymous is bad or why they have fault and all the rabble that comes along sprouting claims of bullshit and worthlessness who don't even take the time to clarify their own position. Truly I wished this hadn't turned into me being the only one who found something to add upon for the devil's advocate's side, and that someone had the guts to perhaps refute not with personal bias but actually stastical and environmental change from anonymous.
Simplified from a simplified tl;dr post : This discussion requires knowledge of the topic on hand and I expected more from the opposite side and more civility, it's not like any of us are better than them or any of them mightier than us.Although I often tend to wind into long multi-phrase complex sentences, I also wished someone would read them as you have tried and possibly had some argument to confer with instead of statements of "I thought","I believe", "I don't think or read"
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Darkhilt wrote...
Simplified from a simplified tl;dr post : This discussion requires knowledge of the topic on hand and I expected more from the opposite side and more civility, it's not like any of us are better than them or any of them mightier than us.Although I often tend to wind into long multi-phrase complex sentences, I also wished someone would read them as you have tried and possibly had some argument to confer with instead of statements of "I thought","I believe", "I don't think or read"
I read every single post of yours in this thread and on the opposite of what everyone in here says, I think they actually did great things with the means they had.
They're exploiting technology and making a good use to it (not talking here about jailbreaking your iphone so you can download torrents with it) but dismembering and raiding moral-breaking websites (as mentioned earlier, child pornography websites such as Lolita City etc.) and never asked anything in return. They weren't looking for fame as they always stayed anonymous.
I think their means of justice are quite noble, they aren't using violence like extremists or law enforcers known as police or even the army. If people call them nerds with low self esteem I really hope they're not thinking soldiers from the army as heroes or I might as well leave this planet at once.
Of course they aren't dealing with the same kind of problem, but there isn't one single problem in the world that you can't fix without violence.
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Narvath wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
Simplified from a simplified tl;dr post : This discussion requires knowledge of the topic on hand and I expected more from the opposite side and more civility, it's not like any of us are better than them or any of them mightier than us.Although I often tend to wind into long multi-phrase complex sentences, I also wished someone would read them as you have tried and possibly had some argument to confer with instead of statements of "I thought","I believe", "I don't think or read"
I read every single post of yours in this thread and on the opposite of what everyone in here says, I think they actually did great things with the means they had.
They're exploiting technology and making a good use to it (not talking here about jailbreaking your iphone so you can download torrents with it) but dismembering and raiding moral-breaking websites (as mentioned earlier, child pornography websites such as Lolita City etc.) and never asked anything in return. They weren't looking for fame as they always stayed anonymous.
I think their means of justice are quite noble, they aren't using violence like extremists or law enforcers known as police or even the army. If people call them nerds with low self esteem I really hope they're not thinking soldiers from the army as heroes or I might as well leave this planet at once.
Of course they aren't dealing with the same kind of problem, but there isn't one single problem in the world that you can't fix without violence.
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Darkhilt wrote...
XD While that stanza wasn't directed to you but that other user, I am relieved someone doesn't undermine what they have done within their capacity.Just wondering, what would your criteria for violence be? personally I find it passive-aggression as compared to outright denial of their target's expression or altercations without gain of a needy affiliated party.Violence has a thousand of forms and I don't think any of it is better than another. Of course there are some that are of the "lesser violence" but should still be frowned upon.
The Occupy movement that we're witnessing right now is one example of a peaceful war. While I haven't participated in one, I have been documenting myself quite a bit about it since it seemed interesting. Something that stunned me was how they would differ from your usual manifestation/riot.
I saw a video on youtube where protestants would go to a kind of assembly or auction (I'm still not sure what it was but it involved a lot of money). The room was really quiet while the woman at front would be talking on a monotone voice then about half of the room would stand up and start singing a song. The song itself was really joyful and was denouncing absurdities of the state.
Of course, many people got arrested for singing a song.
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Arrested for speech at an assembly or auction? Such absurdities the law takes when no net benefit is gained, they quell the voice of those of sincere intention while they let others preach slander and destruction.
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Darkhilt wrote...
I believe I posted on that thread what I thought about that,Again, Anonymous as a whole never says it will do something,they just announce that members will do something, in this case, while someone did want to do this, not enough people were in agreement and resources were diverted to actions against the mexican drug cartel and occupy.For a entity like anonymous to say they would do something as attacking Facebook would be on par as Fakku's forums all agreeing to hate lolis.Besides, unless a subgroup decides to, there is not enough power within invididual members to do siDescribed that way, it seems like Anonymous isn't an actual organization. People can use the name "Anonymous" to do whatever they want. And that's my beef with it; Anonymous doesn't really exist. It's not a real group where people join and participate. It's a mask to use when doing things. A group of half a dozen people could get together and decide to fuck up ebay over Thanksgiving weekend, and they could call themselves Anonymous, regardless of how anybody that has participated in Anonymous movements in the past feels. And the Anonymous that don't like it can't say, "They're not really Anonymous," lest the hacker group says, "No, they're not really Anonymous."
Hackers don't need to be in a group. They don't need a name. In the past, people on imageboards raided other websites and did things similar to what Anonymous has been doing (albeit without the political overtones), and they never said that they were part of a group or that they had real power. One person would basically say, "Let's hit this website," and sometimes people would agree and the site would be taken offline for a day or so, and sometimes no one else would care and nothing would be done. It's the same way now, except that Anonymous isn't representing themselves that way; they say they're an organized group, but really, it all comes down to a person suggesting something and then waiting to see if others will agree.
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Show ur frnds!
Now u can anon 2!
anon is leejun xDDD
So yeah, the whole /b/ thing with Anonymous is really stupid, originally it had something to it, but now it's just a bunch of morons and 15 year olds.
Now u can anon 2!
anon is leejun xDDD
So yeah, the whole /b/ thing with Anonymous is really stupid, originally it had something to it, but now it's just a bunch of morons and 15 year olds.