Westboro Baptist Church
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PersonDude wrote...
Proph3t wrote...
Spoiler:
20/20 did a report on the church. they have to pay 11 mil to Matthew's Parents.
That video was fucking disgusting... Indoctrinating children like that... OMG... Wow.
I got even worse.......
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Fucking rednecks and their ignorance. What does it really matter if other people choose their lives rather than those of the 4000 yr old misranslated book?
Its fucking sick what they do, protesting at funerals of soldiers who gave their lives to defend what they believed in. Denial of the Holoccaust too, just what the hell where they thinking? 6 million jews just don't disapear from the earth do they? This cult is way worse then Scientology and AAAAGGGHHH!!!!!!1 can't think straight...must rage more.
Its fucking sick what they do, protesting at funerals of soldiers who gave their lives to defend what they believed in. Denial of the Holoccaust too, just what the hell where they thinking? 6 million jews just don't disapear from the earth do they? This cult is way worse then Scientology and AAAAGGGHHH!!!!!!1 can't think straight...must rage more.
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GinIchimaru_09 wrote...
Look it’s Fox News not looking crazy here for once yeah.Its almost a fad to hate on Fox News despite the fact that they are just fair as any other news channel...with the exception of MSNBC because those guys are obviously biased.
On topic; These groups have the same rights as anybody else. Any person who truly believes in the freedom of speech or religion should protect the rights of everybody especially those you disagree with. Despite being a hard line Atheist, I would still protect their rights...no matter how much I disagreed with them or how unbelievably disgusting I find their rhetoric.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
GinIchimaru_09 wrote...
Look it’s Fox News not looking crazy here for once yeah.Its almost a fad to hate on Fox News despite the fact that they are just fair as any other news channel...with the exception of MSNBC because those guys are obviously biased.
On topic; These groups have the same rights as anybody else. Any person who truly believes in the freedom of speech or religion should protect the rights of everybody especially those you disagree with. Despite being a hard line Atheist, I would still protect their rights...no matter how much I disagreed with them or how unbelievably disgusting I find their rhetoric.
I fail to detect sarcasm nine times out of ten, so tell me that was just my mistake, or did you just claim that MSNBC was biased but FOX isn't? Because from where I'm standing they are both the top biased networks of their respected political spectrum. <.<
Anyway, I agree. They are well within their rights. I don't like their attitude and I think they are a disgrace to human society, but it's their right to be so disgraceful. XD
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Tsurayu wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
GinIchimaru_09 wrote...
Look it’s Fox News not looking crazy here for once yeah.Its almost a fad to hate on Fox News despite the fact that they are just fair as any other news channel...with the exception of MSNBC because those guys are obviously biased.
On topic; These groups have the same rights as anybody else. Any person who truly believes in the freedom of speech or religion should protect the rights of everybody especially those you disagree with. Despite being a hard line Atheist, I would still protect their rights...no matter how much I disagreed with them or how unbelievably disgusting I find their rhetoric.
I fail to detect sarcasm nine times out of ten, so tell me that was just my mistake, or did you just claim that MSNBC was biased but FOX isn't? Because from where I'm standing they are both the top biased networks of their respected political spectrum. <.<
Anyway, I agree. They are well within their rights. I don't like their attitude and I think they are a disgrace to human society, but it's their right to be so disgraceful. XD
Yes, Fox is a little biased but, it is no where near as biased as MSNBC. People on MSNBC have shown their cult like following of Obama. One commentator or reporter (I forget which) actually compared Obama to God. Even I felt sympathetic (and offended) for Christians or any religion that refers to a single "God".
I watch/listen just about every news channel from NPR (national Public Radio) BBC, CBC (when I'm close enough to get a signal), Fox News, CNN, CNN-HLN (Headline News). I figured if I take in as much information as possible then I can filter out the lies from the truth (like sifting Gold from silt in a river bed). A lot of people who hate Fox News never actually watch the channel for more than one minute. I disagree with O'Reilly some times but, the man does speak the truth on a lot of issues. He's one of the main reasons that Jessica's law was passed and that child molesters are punished for their crime and not just given a slap on the wrist for damaging a girls life forever. Neil Cavuto talks about economics and his discussions are intelligent. Brings facts about the economy and predictions such as "reports indicate that Oil may rise to $xxx a barrel come this summer". Other times he'll talk about what the private sector is doing and how that will effect the economy, Wall street, main street, etc.
Then you have Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck,etc These men are commentators, not journalists, reporters or anything related to those jobs. These men are paid to get in front of a Camera and give their opinions. They can use facts, jokes, whatever. These people are just giving their opinions and people love them and that is why Fox news keeps them, because they are popular and people agree with what they are saying.
Then lastly you have the Geraldo Rivera types. The guys who bleed and sweat for every story. Even beating a dead horse years after the rest of the media has forgotten about it.
Fox News gets a bad rap because they are more centrists in the political spectrum when compared to the likes of msnbc, cbs, abc, New York times. Liberals hate Fox news so much because it is more popular with the average citizen than the other channels. When your station does nothing but, damn conservatives as lunatics and racists (Janeane Garofalo, Keith Olbermann,etc) but, in the same breath turn around and praise people like Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy,etc as saviors of man kind...you can't call yourself unbiased. Watch the channel with an open mind sometime. You may learn a thing or two.
I’ll leave you with this: When asked what cable news network was unbiased in 2008, one thousand Americans in an October 16, 2008 RasmussenReports.com Poll found that 42% believed Fox News was unbiased, 33% believed CNN was unbiased, and 28% said MSNBC was unbiased.
Anyways, we're derailing the topic at hand.
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Tsurayu wrote...
Wow, that is just despicable. I really had something to say after watching a bit of that, but it got me too angry to reply rationally.Oh shit, I didn't mean to neg you for that. I'll plus rep you tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure these people are just professional trolls. There despicable, but their still trolls. I think "ignore the troll" should carry over into real life.
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MidgarKonotsu wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Wow, that is just despicable. I really had something to say after watching a bit of that, but it got me too angry to reply rationally.Oh shit, I didn't mean to neg you for that. I'll plus rep you tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure these people are just professional trolls. There despicable, but their still trolls. I think "ignore the troll" should carry over into real life.
I used my rep to fix your mistake(wasn't going to use it anyways). You can give them the +rep you intended tomorrow.
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Spoiler:
Yeah sorry, I got a little hot-headed all things considering. It really just depends on a person's point of view. I don't really care where anyone gets their news source, but I'd rather no one make the mistake of getting their news exclusively from FOX or from MSNBC.
I must admit I'm shocked by that poll though. I mean FOX refused to air one of Obama's speeches. I don't know what that says to everyone else, but I'd call that conservative bias, but whatever. I'm liberal and sometimes I let stupid things like that get to me as if they were really important to begin with. XD
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Wow, that is just despicable. I really had something to say after watching a bit of that, but it got me too angry to reply rationally.Oh shit, I didn't mean to neg you for that. I'll plus rep you tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure these people are just professional trolls. There despicable, but their still trolls. I think "ignore the troll" should carry over into real life.
That's all right. I don't treat the reputation system with anything more than a grain of salt anyway.
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Guys to keep this from drifting off into talking about fox I got interviews of them from local people and a documentary where Kieth Allen is interviewing and attack them. If you guys want it I will post it up if you guys want.
If you guys ask me these guys are like the taliban. Every sentence they speak is a word from the bible and not of their own common sense. And if you give them guns they will do the exact thing the taliban will do. Kill everything unrightious to god.
If you guys ask me these guys are like the taliban. Every sentence they speak is a word from the bible and not of their own common sense. And if you give them guns they will do the exact thing the taliban will do. Kill everything unrightious to god.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
That is beyond religious fanatics... that is insanity.
And I don't say that out of anger or part sarcasm. I truly see her as no less than insane.
Sure, she has the right to her own beliefs and freedom to state them... But so does an insane person, mumbling about how the trees are evil and the lawn is trying to eat them. She just replaces trees with soldiers and the lawn with... well, I would not be overly surprised if she did believe that last bit.
And I don't say that out of anger or part sarcasm. I truly see her as no less than insane.
Sure, she has the right to her own beliefs and freedom to state them... But so does an insane person, mumbling about how the trees are evil and the lawn is trying to eat them. She just replaces trees with soldiers and the lawn with... well, I would not be overly surprised if she did believe that last bit.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Wow, that is just despicable. I really had something to say after watching a bit of that, but it got me too angry to reply rationally.Oh shit, I didn't mean to neg you for that. I'll plus rep you tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure these people are just professional trolls. There despicable, but their still trolls. I think "ignore the troll" should carry over into real life.
I used my rep to fix your mistake(wasn't going to use it anyways). You can give them the +rep you intended tomorrow.
Why thank you, Fpod. You are a gentalmen and a scholar.
On topic: Even if it is IRL trolling, it's still despicable. I mean, trolling a fallen soldier's funeral is just wrong.
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sv51macross wrote...
Found this while surfing.
We need more people to do this.
Hehe, very nice. We do need more people doing that.
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PersonDude wrote...
Proph3t wrote...
Specifically, I hate religious extremists. Not for how they get so into there own religion but how they enforce it. Spoiler:
Didn't Jesus teach Tolerence not enforcement. Even Jehovah's Witnesses don't do this.
My question to you is that should the U.S. government should limit the religion for enforcement on this shit?
Another one what is your opinion about these religious extremists?
I think you speak for all of us when you say, "I hate religious extremists."
Sometimes I feel embarrassed to be a religious person because of shit like this and it pisses me off. Especially since I really commend the troops for going overseas and helping our country while putting their lives on the line.
As for putting a limit on religious enforcement: It would mean censorship and restriction of religion, meaning breaking the 1st amendment.
I completely agree, as a liberal baptist, these people make the entire baptist religion look bad. My church is very progressive, a my parents are gay and my mom is the person in charge of church affairs.
People too often bash the entire religious community for this, when we are against it too.