Why is it acceptable...?
Do you think the difference in severity between racial slurs is acceptable?
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
All blacks who use variations of the word "nigger" weren't slaves, so the argument that they have the right to call white people "crackers" is bullshit(and i'm pretty sure most plantation owners are dead by now).You can't yell at other people for being racist if you practice it yourself
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
Most blacks who use variations of the word "nigger" weren't slaves, so the argument that they have the right to call white people "crackers" is bullshit(and i'm pretty sure most plantation owners are dead by now).You can't yell at other people for being racist if you practice it yourself
Quoted for Truth.
Also I find it illogical to "punish" people for slavery despite not owning any slaves. I have white in me, so why am I guilty of the transgressions of my distant White ancestors during a time that it was socially acceptable? yes, we find slavery appalling now but, back then it was different. History still requires context.
Edit; I'm not even sure if the "White people" in my family line ever owned any slaves. My mothers ancestry research couldn't delve prior than the 1880's.
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Arizth wrote...
Out of curiosity, @Shaggy:If Nigger, Nigga, and all of it's variations are deeply offensive to the black majority, why in the blue hells do I CONSTANTLY hear conversations amongst all-black groups consist of roughly 75% "yo, nigga"/"hey, nigga"/"whatchutalkinbout, nigga" and 25% something else?
I mean, if it's so damned insulting, stop saying it, yah?
That's something I'm not sure I'll ever truly understand, since I'm white. but I believe it's meant to lessen the power of the word. By making the word their own, they lessen the power it has when said by another group. I'm not sure if that actually works though, since it seems to strengthen the power of the word when said by non-blacks, but I've heard that's the theory.
I don't want to sound like Bill Cosby here, but a lot of blacks that use the word "nigga" don't give a damn about the history of the word or what people in the past had to go through when it was a common term. The rap culture especially seems to be filled with people that only care about themselves; such people only want to feel good about themselves and will be upset if called a "nigger" because it is a sign of disrespect, not so much because of the history of the word. Such people may also try to blow their feelings out of proportion to gain sympathy and attention. That's the way I see it, but I'm not an expert on the subject.
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I think everyone agrees that racial slurs are all horrible and shouldnt be used.
(on this specific thread)
I think words are powerful and its strength depends on the one giving it and the one receiving it. Stupid analogy but its like a fire mage, casting a fireball at an ice golem.
Also, some caucasian folks wont be offended by cracker while some would take it severely, just the same with nigger. It depends on the individual, how it can be taken, how hurtful or how joke-like it is based on how this person lived
Even if we all would agree that cracker is less horrid than nigger or that they are just equal in meaning... it doesnt prove that a black man being called a nigger, a caucasian man being called a cracker or another would feel just the same.
I think sometimes a different way of looking at it isnt so bad - seeing the actual individuals and not just the entire race or group as a whole. Well, just a thought
(on this specific thread)
I think words are powerful and its strength depends on the one giving it and the one receiving it. Stupid analogy but its like a fire mage, casting a fireball at an ice golem.
Also, some caucasian folks wont be offended by cracker while some would take it severely, just the same with nigger. It depends on the individual, how it can be taken, how hurtful or how joke-like it is based on how this person lived
Even if we all would agree that cracker is less horrid than nigger or that they are just equal in meaning... it doesnt prove that a black man being called a nigger, a caucasian man being called a cracker or another would feel just the same.
I think sometimes a different way of looking at it isnt so bad - seeing the actual individuals and not just the entire race or group as a whole. Well, just a thought
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ashcrimson wrote...
I think everyone agrees that racial slurs are all horrible and shouldnt be used.If everyone agreed we wouldn't have the problem of racism and discrimination. >_>
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If Nigger, Nigga, and all of it's variations are deeply offensive to the black majority, why in the blue hells do I CONSTANTLY hear conversations amongst all-black groups consist of roughly 75% "yo, nigga"/"hey, nigga"/"whatchutalkinbout, nigga" and 25% something else?
While this may not be right, when blacks use it among themselves it tends to take on a different connation.
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I think it all comes down to black people being anal.
No other minority raises as much fuss over racial slurs or any other racial mistreatments.
No other minority raises as much fuss over racial slurs or any other racial mistreatments.
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ashcrimson wrote...
Ethil, I meant here on this specific thread, forgive me if it was vague.Well, sure, no user as written "I hate blacks and love Hitler" in this thread yet, but that's probably cuz they'd get banned. Are pretty sure there are some black/white/asian/mexican/whatever hating lurkers on this site as well. Most of them are just smart enough not to draw such attention to themselves.
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fatman wrote...
LordMaknirak wrote...
In a fair world, no, it's not acceptable, in a world were the black people has suffer that much , i think it is. Over history we've called them much worse than that and we've DONE much worse, so even if it's wrong they kinda have the right.No, they don't. No one has that right, no matter what their history.
This is exactly the sort of thinking the reason why asian kids are being bullied. What, blacks now have the "right" to bully asian kids because their great great grandfather was a slave? Christ, that's dumb.
Really!? 99% of Africans were sold into slavery by Africans!!! Slavery is still practiced in AFRICA. When Eqypt was divided in two kingdom; the south mostly Nubians (blacks) and the north mostly ancestors of the current Eqyptians. Both kingdoms battle for supremecy and the right to hold each other in slavery.
I am Irish and the English did not actual free us from their rule until 1926. The roams conquer Ireland, England,Gaul (France) and parts of Germany. They obliterated millions of peoplean forcy into slavery and gladitorial games.
Technicaly the world sucks from the beginning of time. Everybodys' ancestor has been mistreated.
Africa is where it all started and continues. Remember Rhodesia?
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loosehead99 wrote...
Really!? 99% of Africans were sold into slavery by Africans!!!
So, because africans were sold into slavery by africans, that means blacks have the right to call whites "Cracker"?
I am Irish and the English did not actual free us from their rule until 1926. The roams conquer Ireland, England,Gaul (France) and parts of Germany. They obliterated millions of peoplean forcy into slavery and gladitorial games
So, because Ireland was not granted independence, that means blacks have the right to call whites "Cracker"?
Technicaly the world sucks from the beginning of time. Everybodys' ancestor has been mistreated.
Yes, and if you noticed, that doesn't give anyone the right to treat everyone else badly.
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Not acceptable, if a black person would say hi cracker to me I would say hi nigger in return with no hesitation at all.
I do not care about any racial slurs, it have no impact on my e-peen and doesn't make it shrink at all.
My family lineage is of Southern Slavic people in Balkans. That of course can be used as additional ammunition in case people try to pull some BS on me.
I have a English first name while having a Slavic last name XD Part of naturalization stuff I heard.
There must be no special treatment for racial terms. It's just a word.
I do not care about any racial slurs, it have no impact on my e-peen and doesn't make it shrink at all.
My family lineage is of Southern Slavic people in Balkans. That of course can be used as additional ammunition in case people try to pull some BS on me.
I have a English first name while having a Slavic last name XD Part of naturalization stuff I heard.
There must be no special treatment for racial terms. It's just a word.
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Thing is, "nigger" is in this sociëty always used badly.
Whereas cracker isn't looked upon like that.
Personally, idc what people call me as long as they dont mean insults.
If they do, it's a 5k crit uppercut btches.
Whereas cracker isn't looked upon like that.
Personally, idc what people call me as long as they dont mean insults.
If they do, it's a 5k crit uppercut btches.
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I think there is absolutely no difference between racial slurs, with some exceptions like "cracker"
I can say that the word "cracker" is not that bad, like I really worry about being called a salty snack that people eat.
I mean that's the only slur I find holds absolutely no strength and that's also the reason I laughed when I saw it.
I can't take offense to "cracker" as a white person because it's just funny to me.
I can say that the word "cracker" is not that bad, like I really worry about being called a salty snack that people eat.
I mean that's the only slur I find holds absolutely no strength and that's also the reason I laughed when I saw it.
I can't take offense to "cracker" as a white person because it's just funny to me.
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well in my country there is not many black people at all and I've never cared about this talk about what to be seen as racistic. until I was in highschool I called black people for niggers sometimes because I simply thought thats what people usually call them XD
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The word "Nigger" had a bigger impact during the early 40's - 60's, so that means the racial slur still carries a burden behind it because those who actually lived through the era of segregation are still alive. So the memories and anguish are still remembered, you can't change a old person's train of thought. This would explain why blacks would still be offended till this day.
Personally I still have gripes with neo-racism. Yes the older generation has a right to be angry but does the new generation have the right? I do see some hope in those who were highly educated and do not resort to the race card for their faults. You don't see Obama say to the Republican party, " It's because I'm black right?"
Personally I still have gripes with neo-racism. Yes the older generation has a right to be angry but does the new generation have the right? I do see some hope in those who were highly educated and do not resort to the race card for their faults. You don't see Obama say to the Republican party, " It's because I'm black right?"