You Cannot Have It Both Ways, People!

Medical Mec, I wasn't saying homosexuality is hereditary, just that it's built in to oneself.

As to Renovartio,
Why isn't it? Do you choose who you are attracted to? Does a homosexual just choose to like other men, to be fundamentally attracted to them, even in an adverse environment (such as the conservative south)? That kind of reasoning makes it seem like they just want to stir-up trouble. Likewise, does a straight man just randomly think "You know what, arbitrarily, I will choose to be sexually attracted to sexually mature women." Does a transgender just decide that he/she is in the wrong body? Or in the extreme, do guys just decide to become kiddy-diddlers despite the massive legal and societal consequences?

I would highly suspect that is not the case. If there isn't some fundamental wiring in the brain, then why are we attracted to people? I think that we as humans are [by majority] fundamentally programmed to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex, as that's how we reproduce. Likewise, I think that like any mass-produced product there are errors in manufacturing, and sometimes it means that instead of liking tits and ass, a guy likes toned muscle and another cock.

I just don't understand how people can think it's choice. You also say environmental factors, but we have homosexuals coming out of all kinds environments [and excluding sexual abuse as that will fuck-anyone up permanently], and at the same time homosexual households don't just magically make their adopted children gay by default.
Maybe there is some environmental factor but I just don't understand how there cannot be a major part of it in one's inherent brain chemistry.

Um.... I think you should re-check that. While that may be factual, not everyone believes it. Might want to choose another starting point...

hmm sometimes you choose others its just your bodies reaction rights?

but as i said you cant say its entirely one thing right? Whose to say if its really just genetics or that you really don't become then born?

I'm saying you cant say its one thing nor can you prove or disprove it.

you can choose who you like so you do partially control who your attracted to

its like being attracted to a hot woman to find out she was actually a he so thus your not attracted anymore, but you can say you were.

people try to break it all down to a science.

A lot of people Choose to go gay

like if someone was hetero sexual but changed due to something huge and drastic happen to them.


Its also love right? while people have different name things. you can be attracted to someone which might turn you right? but you still like the sex you were interested in already right?

I'm pretty sure they're not concerned about the fact that people enjoy drawings of children. In terms of where the desire comes from, it's clearly nurture over nature: seeing a lot of lolicon or being told that "young" is the ideal (no hair, small chest, purity) is cultural, not ingrained.

They're concerned that people who enjoy loli might enact their desires on real, vulnerable minors who don't yet know what to make of sexual stuff. Seriously, there's a reason for the age of consent...

The attraction happens first. Your choice of whether or not you want to fuck around with them comes after. It's not a conscious choice, bra.


This claim lacks teh evidence.




Also, it isn't entirely genetic, from what I've read:



More stuff:


Dance around it all you like.

Yet you could flip that around by stating, people who enjoy lolicon, knowing they have a pedophilic attraction would be more prone to act upon their sexual desires in real life due to lack of material that would otherwise keep them out of trouble.

Almost anyone who knows they have pedophilic attractions most likely understands what would happen if they took out their desires in real life and would rather just enjoy a more appropriate substitute known as lolicon (aka animated).

I am not saying that all people think this way in regards to watching lolicon however. Their will always be that extremely small percentage of people who watch lolicon and regardless of knowing the consequences of acting out in real life, decide to act upon their desire.

One might also state that without lolicon material those desires and pedophilic attractions would never show up, totally false. If a person is wired in a way where they enjoy younger girls/boys this desire will come up regardless of if lolicon was in existence or not. Hell they might be walking in the park one day and for no reason take a longer look at a younger child and suddenly realize he is sexually attracted to this younger child leading to a desire to act upon this feeling.

I believe that with an alternative option is available to decrease the sexual crave of people who have pedophilic attractions the overall number of people acting upon their desires would decrease. Like stated above most people know what would happen if they acted upon their desires in real life and would rather have that alternative way of getting their minds of those cravings.

While I see what you're saying, they're not happy about the image it gives of Japan (as loli-loving and producing) . And in addition, while loli manga might soothe the "desires" of lolicons, it also might promote them.
So it's difficult to legislate either way.

I agree with you here completely, but you have to understand, people are stupid. There are a lot of people that believe things like loli will turn people who would otherwise be law abiding citizens (probably with the exception of torrenting licensed stuff, but w/e) into people who will go out there and enact their fantasies on children.

In my opinion, if someone does go out there and enact their fantasies like that, they would've done it anyway! They obviously (even if unconsciously) already had that desire to go out and do that (as has been discussed already with the hardwiring analogy), and maybe the loli was a trigger. If they didn't see the loli, something else would have set them off at another time. If they can't distinguish between fantasy and reality, they have something wrong with them to begin with.

I believe that as long as what someone is doing is not infringing on the rights of someone else, it's okay. I mean, I don't like NTR and things like that, and would rather not read it, but as long as a person who reads NTR doesn't go out and enact that situation, it's cool.

(((( By the way, I like parenthesis. Couldn't ya tell?))))

Would be a good survey, lawl.

i think i asked the same question once. if loli is cp(just as a point) isn't it better for pedos to fap to it then real cp or the next level kiddie fucking. most of the cp anyone seen is from Holland and Russia which at least when i was writing my thesis for my criminal justice degree in 2001. it was legal and the way for the sick fucks not to rape. now im not a fan of loli but the stuff that i liked was less harmful than the xxxx grade pron like s&m and pissing and im a horror fan so snuff was great. i guess the point i was making was loli to keep pedos at bay? maybe