Fate/Extra Western Release! Also: Sequel Planned!

Kinda biased, since they're so many variables left out from the original.
examples:
-Chance to be one of the 7 chosen ones is slim.
-Chance of not dieing is not low either.
-Chance of making a new contract is also low.
-If you don't have plot armor you die... lol

Actually it is quite a tough choice because in Extra you have a week to get info and already know who you are about to fight where as in the original you never know who you may fight or where.

Hahahaa~! Very true. Plus you have to realize that, in a competition to the death, the more rules the better. I mean, look at what Shinji and secretly Caster were doing in Fate. They managed to gain more power (well, one of them) from taking lives. While they could still gain power from Alterations and such (though they didn't have to since the masters were all better than you when it came to having enough magic and knowing what they were doing...even Shinji's pathetic ass), there was at least zero possibility of any of your loved ones being casualties of your enemy's design.

If I for some insane reason logged into the Moon Cell to get a piece of the action, I sure as all get out would want to make sure my Fuji-nee teacher and Sakura friend(potential lover?) were safe from the bloodshed.

Oh, and no rape. Though I only abide my the magnificent Fate Route of FS/N, at least your opponent/opponent's Servant/enemy solo Servant can't try to put his dick in you or your Servant just for fun.
That's always a plus.


Also true.

On that note, I have to say that of all Fate related material, Fate/EXTRA is my absolute favorite because it really pushes forth the biggest tactic that I feel should have been implemented Fate story to begin with: information is power.
_When I was told that during FSN I thought the story would turn into part-action, part-mystery plot. Badass! ...But it didn't.
While I really enjoy FSN immensely and adore the climactic revelation and ending to the Fate route, I never liked how they didn't seem to figure out how to put knowing their enemy's identity to good use. You know, like bringing up something about their past to screw with their heads or, ala Extra, try to figure out their attack patterns judging by their personalities and battle history.
It was more like:
"Oh, I know that you're Gilgamesh!"
Gilgamesh: "And?"
"...Nothing. Just wanted to say I knew you."
I bet bringing up Enkidu or mentioning how he changed into a better man before he died would've fucked up his villainous stride. He'd be all, "Oh, right, thanks to Enkidu and a few others I didn't care about immortality or power in the end and stopped being a self-absorbed rapist tyrant. ...What the hell am I doing here?"

Anyway, though there are more possibilities for survival in the classic Holy Grail War system, I like the rules of the new system better, so if I had to condemn myself to a Holy Grail War, it'd be Extra's.
Plus, you know... Saber Extra Red and all...

So I tried being a dick, or as much of one as the option allow, to Saber, even though it killed me a little on the inside to do so, and it is pretty much impossible not to get her Rank E

Oh and thats one of my favorites of Nero there Mega Ten

a bit off topic

yeah i forgot about those variables but remember in fate/zero Waver and Kayneth just wanted to join and got in all too quickly. About the plot armor, yeah especially if to summoned a LANCER.

Hey guys , would you fight Kotomine if he was an optional boss in Fate/Extra CCC?
Remember what he said when you didn't know the identity of your opponent.
"If i was your opponent you'd already be dead"

HELL. YES.
I'd love to go classic Fate on his ass with Saber Extra Red at my side!
Though, considering he's the primary AI that monitors the Holy Grail War, I have a feeling that when he told you that it wasn't an exaggeration...

Actually, on second thought, as much fun as I think it would be (if it wasn't impossible), I don't know if it would be as epic as I initially thought. I mean, in Fate the final battle was epic because of his connection to Shirou's past and the idea of a twisted priest using the entirety of mankind's sins as his weapon. In Extra, Kotomine has the personality but not the twisted evil. In the end he even gives you some free advice because you told him goodbye. Like Shinji, even though he has the persona of the person he's based off of, he doesn't have the deranged cruelty.
Maybe it wouldn't be as fun as I thought. I mean, I thought killing Shinji would be bliss, but then


I know it's odd, but I genuinely felt bad after the first fight. I guess I'd have to see Kotomine kidnap a defenseless loli to be absolutely sure I'd want to show him the Theater of the Deranged.

He deserved it in my opinion anyone that masquerades as Shinji deserves auto death if you ask why well Heavens Feel enough said

Also I feel sorry for lancer

Well luckily I stopped short during my UBW playthrough when I was subjected to a scene that offended all the logic the Fate route had built up and a non-kinda sorta-pretty much rape, so I never had to endure Heaven's Feel.
_I did read about it though, and as a massive Fate route fan, it was a bad enough experience. I don't know why folks like the other routes after Fate, but I won't argue about that. All I know is that I wholeheartedly agree, mate.

I wonder... If CCC is going to be like a Sakura Route, and Shinji clearly knows Sakura (or the real Sakura), I can only imagine he'll have a bigger role in CCC as well.
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No way in shit am I letting anybody turn my our Saber Extra Red into Saber Extra Red Alter! Fuck that noise! I'll-! I'll fuckin'-! I'll just-!

of the 3 routes Fate is my least favorite the other 2 just have so much more going for them in term of story depth and honestly I kinda want to see a Nero Alter but the thought of tainting her doesn't thrill me.

But yeah seeing a Sakura Route would be nice especially if they keep the dark theme that Heavens Feel had

oh and again Shinji can just fucking die.

I like rider in FSN. He's beauty and cool probably tsundere too.

ummmm for starters the servant Rider in F/SN is a female F/Z has the only male Rider Class servant in the 'released' forms of media.

and why did you enter a Fate/Extra topic to make a random 1-liner post about liking Rider from Fate/Stay Night?

Granted at the time we were slightly off topic but it still related back to our discussion of Extra

well in exchange of having killed of early for shinji is that he get hot riders hehe both in Fate/Extra and Fate/SN.

Whabba fuck?!


Oh, alright then.


Well as you could've figured I disagree. Not about the Shinji thing, but about the dark theme (though if even Archer says Extra Shinji is different at heart, I'll take his word for it...but fuck all other Shinjis). While CCC might get "darker", I don't think it should become as bleak as what Heaven's Feel put out. It might with Nasu writing it (he seems to have a thing of making each following story route darker than the last...but maybe it's just me), but I hope not. Darker is fine I guess, but don't shit on my heart, Nasu.
I also hope he doesn't back-peddle some of the established rules of the story, either. I guess that's subjective, though, as I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it here since Shinji was already able to pull off some (though mild) stuff in Extra. Hell, I don't know.
_All I know is, I'm not gonna be happy if I have to kill Saber Extra Red. I can find fan art if I want to see a Saber Extra Red Alter (that sword already looks pretty wicked). Or Caster Alter. Or Archer Alter.

And now that you have voiced your opinion on FSN's routes, I must wage forum war with you for days arguing about things we can otherwise easily mutually enjoy from different perspectives because I have some innate need to be right.
En Garde, Bloodmist!
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Lol jokes aside I'm game for a Fate debate anytime

I wish that in CCC the mysterious Black mage does something like corrupting NPC's or making Alter servants. or something like your servant gets taken away and turned to an Alter and you get to have a temporary servant(why am i suddenly thinking of a certain golden archer?LOL) to get your servant back.

Now, Sorrow and I just discussed this and I voiced my hopes that this wouldn't happen (along with my hope CCC won't have any rape, mental and/or physical torture, or "kill the one you love" scenarios).
But, I think you might've come across a way Sorrow could have his darkness while I can have my non-bleakness:




Nah I'm good, mate. Hahahaa~ Besides, aside from a few good points I can make, the debate would clearly go to the one who knows first hand the details of each route. Plus, the less I know about the other routes (aside from Archer's identity and such), the better for me.
Like the old saying goes: "Ignorance is not raging."

But what do you think about Sparda's idea? I mean, aside from working with that particular gold archer. Maybe we could work with a new CCC Servant to get our servant back, one well versed in magic. That way you could have your Saber Extra Red Alter and we could both appreciate a resolution to such an arc without tears- I MEAN with ease.
...I wouldn't cry if Saber Extra Red or Caster turned Alter. Who said I'd cry?
Because I wouldn't.
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I think I might be playing too much Extra...

Well to be honest Mega Ten you really don't have much to worry about since the seem to be aiming for a T for teen rating so I doubt it will get too dark even if they did attempt a Heavens Feel kind of setting.

As for sparda's idea...meh don't think I would like it because with them becoming Alter their personalities change and I don't think I could handle Nero suddenly turning into a bitch on me thats why I said it would be cool to 'see' but again I couldnt bear the thought of her being tainted.

and don't worry after 5 playthroughs I had to force myself to put it down

I'm not going to lie though I almost cried during heavens feel route because I fell in love with all that is Sakura and the same thing would probably happen if something were to happen to Nero.

I actually thought they might be aiming for a higher rating with CCC going by the description of "a girl's passion and eros" as themes, but then again you're likely right.


Ah I gotcha. I thought you wanted to see what it would be like if she was, but that it wouldn't last longer than a round or something. In that case I'm level with you, mate. I admit that it would be interesting to see what they would look like, but hopefully there'll be some fan art ala "Rin and Archer Alter" instead of them implementing that into the game.


Hahaaha~! This game/VN hybrid really catches one, doesn't it? I just finished my 5th playthrough recently, too.


I got teary eyed at the end of Fate route and worried about Sakura partway through that, so I can only imagine how going through Heaven's Feel would wreck my ass.
_I knew with you around I wouldn't be the only utterly heartbroken over something bad happening to Saber Extra Red.
Kindred spirits over the Red Gowned Knight.
Though I'm sure everyone else in this thread would feel the same for their respective favorites. Nasu really has a knack for making characters you can fall for, huh?

Oh, and by "feel sorry for Lancer", do you mean in Extra or Carnival Phantasm? I feel the same either way.

Just Lancer over all or rather Cü Carnival Phantasm really picks on him even the Illya's castle special.

Oh and Heavens feel wouldn't just "wreck your ass" it would bust your balls and troll your emotions more so if you are a Sakura fan. It would also multiply any dislike of Shinji and Gilgamesh