Final Fantasy Fanboys why are there so many?
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Curses I will admit it I am a fanboy and have beaten every English FF game i could find (including translated internet ver.) but it often bugs me sometimes as to why there are so many of us.
Some people just think we are gay for liking FF, but i think it is because it is one of the longer lasting RPG series. Dont get me wrong i don't have any problems with the DW series or whatever, but FF holds a place in my heart, and for the love of god i don't know why.
It is the same story told over and over. Good vs. Evil and Good always wins and i hate that, maybe thats why i am a Sephiroth fan.
Oh well like them or not they gave us some good hentai material (TIFA) and if you are a fanboy or a hater leave a message that way maybe i can find out why i like it so much.
Some people just think we are gay for liking FF, but i think it is because it is one of the longer lasting RPG series. Dont get me wrong i don't have any problems with the DW series or whatever, but FF holds a place in my heart, and for the love of god i don't know why.
It is the same story told over and over. Good vs. Evil and Good always wins and i hate that, maybe thats why i am a Sephiroth fan.
Oh well like them or not they gave us some good hentai material (TIFA) and if you are a fanboy or a hater leave a message that way maybe i can find out why i like it so much.
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There are so many fanboys because they are oblivious to what is out there. If it isn't made by Square Enix, then it must not be as good as any Final Fantasy. I know its hard to find anything that isn't made by that company in the realm of RPGs these days, but it wasn't always like that. Maybe they are just lazy too, coudln't tell you. :roll:
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No trolling please.
Should it? You like a franchise that happens to be popular, probably the definition of "entrenched success" in the video game world.
Can you blame Square Enix for slapping the FF name on largely unrelated games to get people to notice them properly? Would you honestly have given some games that you DID end up liking a second look if they HADN'T been part of the FF franchise when you first saw the previews or looked at their DVD case art? I'm betting that you might not have, when it comes to some titles.
Take FF Tactics, for one.
Anyway, Final Fantasy means different things to different people, and has come to mean different things as time has passed as well.
Back in the day, FF was attempting to break into a Japanese market UTTERLY dominated by Dragon Quest and Dragon Quest clones. DQ hasn't been getting a lot of mileage in western countries until lately, but in Japan DQ is gold. DQ is to Japanese pop culture what RICE is to Japanese Cuisine.
So in the early days FF had what was then thought to be strength of narrative. It had a strong story (whereas most DQ games were retreads of the same core concepts with minor changes) and characters. It was also one of the first RPG franchises that changed significantly with each installment. For example, FFIII and FFV were strong on gameplay and challenge, while FFIV and FFVI were strong on story.
With the PS1 FF was more of a "firsts" series. FFVII was the first to use 3D and was heavier on Sci-Fi. It was also the first to construct a ripe "franchisable" fiction. FFVIII continued the trend and developed a ripe, stats-customizable system and a stronger emphasis on unique characterization (Squall's Gunblade, etc.). It also had the first big "minigame", Triple Triad. FFIX was a celebration of FFs past, returning to swords and sorcery, and unique, one-of-a-kind character abilities.
On the PS2 FF was big on production values and more "out-there" concepts. FFX was HUEG on that, with a new, fully turn-based character system and big, party-replacing Aeons. FFX-2 was the first-ever direct sequel, and the first truly style-obsessed Final Fantasy game. FFXI was a freaking MMORPG (how "out there" from FF can you get?!), and FFXII was the first fully real-time FF game, with no random battles and huge, expansive worlds.
On next-gen systems, FF looks to be the "franchise" franchise, in a kind of meta realization of its ability to impact design. FFXIII is fully five different games and styles, all in one "FFXIII" universe.
In the end, more than anything else, FF is a concept series, and many of its fans recognize this as a large part of what makes it so popular.
Don't be sad that you're an FF fan, just be sad that there are a lot of FF "fanboys", and that so many people equate the game to its worst face.
it often bugs me sometimes as to why there are so many of us.
Should it? You like a franchise that happens to be popular, probably the definition of "entrenched success" in the video game world.
Can you blame Square Enix for slapping the FF name on largely unrelated games to get people to notice them properly? Would you honestly have given some games that you DID end up liking a second look if they HADN'T been part of the FF franchise when you first saw the previews or looked at their DVD case art? I'm betting that you might not have, when it comes to some titles.
Take FF Tactics, for one.
Anyway, Final Fantasy means different things to different people, and has come to mean different things as time has passed as well.
Back in the day, FF was attempting to break into a Japanese market UTTERLY dominated by Dragon Quest and Dragon Quest clones. DQ hasn't been getting a lot of mileage in western countries until lately, but in Japan DQ is gold. DQ is to Japanese pop culture what RICE is to Japanese Cuisine.
So in the early days FF had what was then thought to be strength of narrative. It had a strong story (whereas most DQ games were retreads of the same core concepts with minor changes) and characters. It was also one of the first RPG franchises that changed significantly with each installment. For example, FFIII and FFV were strong on gameplay and challenge, while FFIV and FFVI were strong on story.
With the PS1 FF was more of a "firsts" series. FFVII was the first to use 3D and was heavier on Sci-Fi. It was also the first to construct a ripe "franchisable" fiction. FFVIII continued the trend and developed a ripe, stats-customizable system and a stronger emphasis on unique characterization (Squall's Gunblade, etc.). It also had the first big "minigame", Triple Triad. FFIX was a celebration of FFs past, returning to swords and sorcery, and unique, one-of-a-kind character abilities.
On the PS2 FF was big on production values and more "out-there" concepts. FFX was HUEG on that, with a new, fully turn-based character system and big, party-replacing Aeons. FFX-2 was the first-ever direct sequel, and the first truly style-obsessed Final Fantasy game. FFXI was a freaking MMORPG (how "out there" from FF can you get?!), and FFXII was the first fully real-time FF game, with no random battles and huge, expansive worlds.
On next-gen systems, FF looks to be the "franchise" franchise, in a kind of meta realization of its ability to impact design. FFXIII is fully five different games and styles, all in one "FFXIII" universe.
In the end, more than anything else, FF is a concept series, and many of its fans recognize this as a large part of what makes it so popular.
Don't be sad that you're an FF fan, just be sad that there are a lot of FF "fanboys", and that so many people equate the game to its worst face.
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I like FF series, but only 4,6,and 7.
And my favourite FF Tactics. I'm currently playing FFT for PSP. I like it for its stories, not all RPG has great background story like I mentioned above :wink:
And my favourite FF Tactics. I'm currently playing FFT for PSP. I like it for its stories, not all RPG has great background story like I mentioned above :wink:
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i like some of the ff games 7,10,12 are my favorites and i like those three for there characters and the stories that are told in the game
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there didnt used to be that many rpgs released into the us/euro markets, sure there were a few gems here and there, like the lufia games on snes, but for the most part it was always tough to find a great rpg. i think thats partialy why people cling to square, just b/c it was the main title in rpgs for the longest time.
now why there are so many obsessed with 7 in particular who knows. yeah it was a great game no argument there, but i wouldnt call it the best ff. other games in the series have had better characters, stories, etc. maybe its just b/c of the jump from the 2d format in 1-6 to the 3d that seems to be more popular now. i mean if it werent for all the hype, i dont think the ff7 chars would be all that memorable. cloud is a very generic swordsman. barret, tifa, vincent, yuffie, septhroth, theyre all pretty plain too. they were plenty cool but by no means notably creative or unique.
i think 7 was just as popular as it was b/c of its timing, if something like it came out now, itd be considered pretty average compared to the huge array of rpgs being pumped out now
now why there are so many obsessed with 7 in particular who knows. yeah it was a great game no argument there, but i wouldnt call it the best ff. other games in the series have had better characters, stories, etc. maybe its just b/c of the jump from the 2d format in 1-6 to the 3d that seems to be more popular now. i mean if it werent for all the hype, i dont think the ff7 chars would be all that memorable. cloud is a very generic swordsman. barret, tifa, vincent, yuffie, septhroth, theyre all pretty plain too. they were plenty cool but by no means notably creative or unique.
i think 7 was just as popular as it was b/c of its timing, if something like it came out now, itd be considered pretty average compared to the huge array of rpgs being pumped out now
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7 was the first 3-d FF and it was the first one not on a Nintendo console. If Nintendo had released it then it may not have been as big. But then again, if Nintendo had released it as planned we'd all have enjoyed it on the Nintendo Playstation and it would've created the greatest oldschool gaming platform of all time that could play PS1 games along with SNES games.
Anyway, it doesn't present an inherent bother to me that so many Final Fantasy fans exist, it's just that so many of them get in other peoples faces and piss people off. I don't hide that I'm a fan of Final Fantasy and in real life I don't hesitate at all to tell my friends that I like the games, but online I don't mention it all the time because it starts so totally unnecessary fights. I'm also extremely argumentative though so I start shit over small comments like "Man, why would you play Final Fantasy?".
Anyway, it doesn't present an inherent bother to me that so many Final Fantasy fans exist, it's just that so many of them get in other peoples faces and piss people off. I don't hide that I'm a fan of Final Fantasy and in real life I don't hesitate at all to tell my friends that I like the games, but online I don't mention it all the time because it starts so totally unnecessary fights. I'm also extremely argumentative though so I start shit over small comments like "Man, why would you play Final Fantasy?".
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Another Fan boy here.. there isn't an FF game I can think of that I haven't put in the time to run through the whole story and then gone back to complete every single last frustrating side quest they sneak in.
And frankly I don't have a problem with admitting it.. I got buddies who play the same NHL games every year.. and others that are obsessed with fps. To each their own I say and if someone starts up on the "why are you still playing ff games etc" I just figure they are a closet fan ;)
And frankly I don't have a problem with admitting it.. I got buddies who play the same NHL games every year.. and others that are obsessed with fps. To each their own I say and if someone starts up on the "why are you still playing ff games etc" I just figure they are a closet fan ;)
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I wouldn't exactly consider myself a fanboy, but I've played and enjoyed most Final Fantasy games that have been released on the English market.
Of course, I'm more partial to the Suikoden series, myself.
Of course, I'm more partial to the Suikoden series, myself.
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Suikoden II is better than FF 4,6,7,10, and 12 combined imo. Then again, I believe Suikoden II to be the best video game ever made so might be somewhat biased :lol:
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i liked the first two suikodens a lot as well. 3 wasnt bad and 5 woulda been great if it werent so rediculously easy. i mean all of them were a little too easy but five was just silly how easy they made it. i never played 4, so i cant say anything about that one.
edit- this is my 50th post, yay
edit- this is my 50th post, yay
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hmm... turn-based battle systems and endless leveling up gets kinda tedious
i'm more action oriented
and story-wise, i prefer one that has more conversations and more action
i haven't played the latest FF-series games (only FFIV up to FFIX... never even finished the latter three), but from my experience, FFV was the best on gameplay because of character-building, and the only storyline that has left an impression unfortunately was also FFV because it was the first FF-series game i played and finished
besides that, there was FFT, which was kinda flawed because of gameplay issues (cheap characters and job classes that overshadows others; unbalanced and unrefined gameplay) but the story was pretty deep and kinda sad and didn't end with the-big-bad-guy-was-defeated-and-everyone-lived-happily-ever-after ending... plus, FFT had cameos (now why is that such a big deal?)
and then there was FFT Advance: huge step down from the original Final Fantasy Tactics for Playstation, having a not-so-fascinating plot and much easier gameplay because of dumb AI and easy situations (i could handle handicaps; Vieras rule!)
a non-FF game by Square that i really liked (played over and over again countless times) was Seiken Densetsu 3 (i don't think it was ever released outside of Japan) and Chrono Trigger (probably because i liked the eyecandy... i mean compared to other SNES FF-series games)
well, that means i'm no fanboy
but i can see why some people are so addicted to the game... it's not just the big "Final Fantasy" name, but everything about the game makes you want to play it... and keep on playing it...
i'm more action oriented
and story-wise, i prefer one that has more conversations and more action
i haven't played the latest FF-series games (only FFIV up to FFIX... never even finished the latter three), but from my experience, FFV was the best on gameplay because of character-building, and the only storyline that has left an impression unfortunately was also FFV because it was the first FF-series game i played and finished
besides that, there was FFT, which was kinda flawed because of gameplay issues (cheap characters and job classes that overshadows others; unbalanced and unrefined gameplay) but the story was pretty deep and kinda sad and didn't end with the-big-bad-guy-was-defeated-and-everyone-lived-happily-ever-after ending... plus, FFT had cameos (now why is that such a big deal?)
and then there was FFT Advance: huge step down from the original Final Fantasy Tactics for Playstation, having a not-so-fascinating plot and much easier gameplay because of dumb AI and easy situations (i could handle handicaps; Vieras rule!)
a non-FF game by Square that i really liked (played over and over again countless times) was Seiken Densetsu 3 (i don't think it was ever released outside of Japan) and Chrono Trigger (probably because i liked the eyecandy... i mean compared to other SNES FF-series games)
well, that means i'm no fanboy
but i can see why some people are so addicted to the game... it's not just the big "Final Fantasy" name, but everything about the game makes you want to play it... and keep on playing it...
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couldnt agree more on FFT adv. it was still a lot of fun but the story was terrible and in general far too easy(a common problem all the main FF games i find, aside from the nes release of the first one)
SD3 was really good. ive only played it through once, i wanna replay it at some point to try the rest of the characters
SD3 was really good. ive only played it through once, i wanna replay it at some point to try the rest of the characters
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I don't see that many FF fanboys as much no more. I actually see a lot of more KH fanboys (or preferably fangirls) more than them. Although I played some of the FF games (especially Tactics Advance, which was my favorite out of them) but I wouldn't really devote myself to the series however, so I'm not really a fanboy. Besides, FF fanboys aren't that of a issue. They're cool in a way...sort of.
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I can answer your question with a few words, FF has the ebst storylines and spend alot of time into them such as ffX was being made when ff6 was out. And anything made by sqare is good.