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idmb22
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The Main Roles within the Map are:
- Solo Top Laner.
- Solo Mid Laner.
- Jungler.
- Bottom Marksman (ADC).
- Bottom Support.
Generally, inside a Team there are these Roles:
- Front Line: This role is normally taken by "Tanky Top Laners" and "Junglers", not always, depending on their Champion picks, but picks like Renekton, Jarvan IV, Vi, Lee Sin, can fit there. Their objective is to soak damage and protect their team. Also, they will go to the enemy team Backline to try and kill their Carrier together with their team Assassin.
- Carries: This role is for the "Mid Laner", can be an AD or AP Assassin like Zed or Ahri, and the "Marksman" (ADC) like Caitlyn, Varus, etc. Sometimes the Jungler comes in this category, like Evelyn.
- Peeler: Normally, is the Support the one in charge of peeling for the Marksman, but the Front Line can do it to, so it is more a "Team effort" than a specific role. The objective is to protect the Carries, CCing the enemy team or whatever, just so the enemy team cant reach them while they damage the enemy team.
- Initiator: Normally, the Front Line initiates, but it can be done by other roles as Carries, like Veigar, Ashe, even Supports like Nami, Sona and Thresh can initiate a Teamfight if they find a good opportunity.
- Solo Top Laner.
- Solo Mid Laner.
- Jungler.
- Bottom Marksman (ADC).
- Bottom Support.
Generally, inside a Team there are these Roles:
- Front Line: This role is normally taken by "Tanky Top Laners" and "Junglers", not always, depending on their Champion picks, but picks like Renekton, Jarvan IV, Vi, Lee Sin, can fit there. Their objective is to soak damage and protect their team. Also, they will go to the enemy team Backline to try and kill their Carrier together with their team Assassin.
- Carries: This role is for the "Mid Laner", can be an AD or AP Assassin like Zed or Ahri, and the "Marksman" (ADC) like Caitlyn, Varus, etc. Sometimes the Jungler comes in this category, like Evelyn.
- Peeler: Normally, is the Support the one in charge of peeling for the Marksman, but the Front Line can do it to, so it is more a "Team effort" than a specific role. The objective is to protect the Carries, CCing the enemy team or whatever, just so the enemy team cant reach them while they damage the enemy team.
- Initiator: Normally, the Front Line initiates, but it can be done by other roles as Carries, like Veigar, Ashe, even Supports like Nami, Sona and Thresh can initiate a Teamfight if they find a good opportunity.
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Tsamari
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idmb22 wrote...
The Main Roles within the Map are:- Solo Top Laner.
- Solo Mid Laner.
- Jungler.
- Bottom Marksman (ADC).
- Bottom Support.
Generally, inside a Team there are these Roles:
- Front Line: This role is normally taken by "Tanky Top Laners" and "Junglers", not always, depending on their Champion picks, but picks like Renekton, Jarvan IV, Vi, Lee Sin, can fit there. Their objective is to soak damage and protect their team. Also, they will go to the enemy team Backline to try and kill their Carrier together with their team Assassin.
- Carries: This role is for the "Mid Laner", can be an AD or AP Assassin like Zed or Ahri, and the "Marksman" (ADC) like Caitlyn, Varus, etc. Sometimes the Jungler comes in this category, like Evelyn.
- Peeler: Normally, is the Support the one in charge of peeling for the Marksman, but the Front Line can do it to, so it is more a "Team effort" than a specific role. The objective is to protect the Carries, CCing the enemy team or whatever, just so the enemy team cant reach them while they damage the enemy team.
- Initiator: Normally, the Front Line initiates, but it can be done by other roles as Carries, like Veigar, Ashe, even Supports like Nami, Sona and Thresh can initiate a Teamfight if they find a good opportunity.
I like how you said it more. Sometimes i go little overboard with somethings but i just like to type somedays lol :)
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Takerial
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Every lane has different types of roles available to be played. It's not exclusive to the types, but they are the most common available to them.
Top Lane - The most typical top laners are the bruiser class. These are people that build tanky and dive into the middle of the fights to dish out damage and just be an annoyance for the most part.
The most common types of bruisers are Jax, Renekton, Irelia, Nasus and arguably Riven. Riven can be argued into this class because with her shield ability she is capable of taking tons of damage while still building mostly damage. Typically, bruisers build damage early while shifting into defense more as the game goes along.
You also have the tank. These champions tend to focus on being almost a pure defense shot absorber. Shen and Singed are some of the more common ones in this role. Occasionally you get someone like Renekton or Nasus who goes full tank, but it's rare to see it.
Then you have the damage type in the top lane. And this is even separated into carries, team fight control, and assassins. Carries are champions like Tryndamere, Yi, and somewhat Vlad. They'll continually do consistent damage over long periods of time but don't necessarily do large combo burst damage. Champions who do large combo burst damage are assassins. This is someone like Rengar, Zed and such. Then you also have team fight control champions. These are champions that are insanely strong in team fights. They'll have aoe abilities, often with some form of cc. Rumble and Kennen are your most common ones.
Those are the most common types of top laners you'll see. That isn't to say you won't see others but usually the most common types of top laners will counter most of the uncommon types so it's just rare to see them in a lot of match-ups.
Now that leaves the type of roles top laners fill.
You have the split pusher. This is someone like Tryndamere, Nasus, Jax, Yi, Aatrox, and Shen that if you ever leave them alone in the lane will just shove shove shove before necessarily grouping with their team. That isn't to say they necessarily WON'T join in team fights, and many will take things like teleport or in shen's case his ult that will allow them to join if necessary. But they're main focus is to keep whatever lane they are, pushed out as far as possible so there is always a point of pressure separate from the point of pressure the rest of the team is in. They're hard to deal with in a 1v1 with most champions as they are strong duelest but aren't necessarily the best in team fights compared to others.
You have the initiator. Now, this is one of the more uncommon roles for top laners. Typically, your jungler and/or support is going to be main one with initiation. But if you don't necessarily have a strong team for initiation, you might have to fill that role yourself. People like Shen, Jax partially, Singed partially, Kennen strongly, Rumble once he has his rylais can fill the initiation role to some degree. While others like Nasus, Yi and such are going to have poor initiation because it mostly consists of them running at the enemy team with little to none cc. Unless you're on someone like Kennen and such, you're not likely the main source of initiation.
You have the peeler. Now this, is a more common job for a lot of the tankier tops. People like Shen, Singed, Nasus, and Renekton all have the capacy to peel for their back line (squishy damage dealers). Singed and Nasus are especially prominent in this action. If you stick around, they're going to cc you while also doing tons of damage which escalates your own back line's damage while reducing the damage done to them instead.
You have the diver. With split pushing, this is the other most common role for top laners. Your job is the dive the enemy back line and either outright destroy them (assassins and most bruisers) or to zone them from their back line while your front line stays safe in return (some bruisers and most tanks.) If your team is entirely a dive comp (Something like say, Jax, Jarvan, Ahri, Tristana, and Leona) then you'll typically also serve as the turret and enemy abilities meat shield for your carries in this role.
Often, you will end up serving in several roles throughout the game depending on the circumstances. Like say on Shen. You'll be a split pusher. And when a team fight breaks out, you'll use your ult to peel damage on a carry and then act as either a reinitator or a peeler when you come in.
And it could also depend on the time of game. If you're still in the laning phase, you might even become a roamer on some with high mobility like say Kennen, Riven, or Rengar.
Top Lane - The most typical top laners are the bruiser class. These are people that build tanky and dive into the middle of the fights to dish out damage and just be an annoyance for the most part.
The most common types of bruisers are Jax, Renekton, Irelia, Nasus and arguably Riven. Riven can be argued into this class because with her shield ability she is capable of taking tons of damage while still building mostly damage. Typically, bruisers build damage early while shifting into defense more as the game goes along.
You also have the tank. These champions tend to focus on being almost a pure defense shot absorber. Shen and Singed are some of the more common ones in this role. Occasionally you get someone like Renekton or Nasus who goes full tank, but it's rare to see it.
Then you have the damage type in the top lane. And this is even separated into carries, team fight control, and assassins. Carries are champions like Tryndamere, Yi, and somewhat Vlad. They'll continually do consistent damage over long periods of time but don't necessarily do large combo burst damage. Champions who do large combo burst damage are assassins. This is someone like Rengar, Zed and such. Then you also have team fight control champions. These are champions that are insanely strong in team fights. They'll have aoe abilities, often with some form of cc. Rumble and Kennen are your most common ones.
Those are the most common types of top laners you'll see. That isn't to say you won't see others but usually the most common types of top laners will counter most of the uncommon types so it's just rare to see them in a lot of match-ups.
Now that leaves the type of roles top laners fill.
You have the split pusher. This is someone like Tryndamere, Nasus, Jax, Yi, Aatrox, and Shen that if you ever leave them alone in the lane will just shove shove shove before necessarily grouping with their team. That isn't to say they necessarily WON'T join in team fights, and many will take things like teleport or in shen's case his ult that will allow them to join if necessary. But they're main focus is to keep whatever lane they are, pushed out as far as possible so there is always a point of pressure separate from the point of pressure the rest of the team is in. They're hard to deal with in a 1v1 with most champions as they are strong duelest but aren't necessarily the best in team fights compared to others.
You have the initiator. Now, this is one of the more uncommon roles for top laners. Typically, your jungler and/or support is going to be main one with initiation. But if you don't necessarily have a strong team for initiation, you might have to fill that role yourself. People like Shen, Jax partially, Singed partially, Kennen strongly, Rumble once he has his rylais can fill the initiation role to some degree. While others like Nasus, Yi and such are going to have poor initiation because it mostly consists of them running at the enemy team with little to none cc. Unless you're on someone like Kennen and such, you're not likely the main source of initiation.
You have the peeler. Now this, is a more common job for a lot of the tankier tops. People like Shen, Singed, Nasus, and Renekton all have the capacy to peel for their back line (squishy damage dealers). Singed and Nasus are especially prominent in this action. If you stick around, they're going to cc you while also doing tons of damage which escalates your own back line's damage while reducing the damage done to them instead.
You have the diver. With split pushing, this is the other most common role for top laners. Your job is the dive the enemy back line and either outright destroy them (assassins and most bruisers) or to zone them from their back line while your front line stays safe in return (some bruisers and most tanks.) If your team is entirely a dive comp (Something like say, Jax, Jarvan, Ahri, Tristana, and Leona) then you'll typically also serve as the turret and enemy abilities meat shield for your carries in this role.
Often, you will end up serving in several roles throughout the game depending on the circumstances. Like say on Shen. You'll be a split pusher. And when a team fight breaks out, you'll use your ult to peel damage on a carry and then act as either a reinitator or a peeler when you come in.
And it could also depend on the time of game. If you're still in the laning phase, you might even become a roamer on some with high mobility like say Kennen, Riven, or Rengar.
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idmb22
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Takerial wrote...
You have the split pusher. This is someone like Tryndamere, Nasus, Jax, Yi, Aatrox, and Shen that if you ever leave them alone in the lane will just shove shove shove before necessarily grouping with their team. That isn't to say they necessarily WON'T join in team fights, and many will take things like teleport or in shen's case his ult that will allow them to join if necessary. But they're main focus is to keep whatever lane they are, pushed out as far as possible so there is always a point of pressure separate from the point of pressure the rest of the team is in. They're hard to deal with in a 1v1 with most champions as they are strong duelest but aren't necessarily the best in team fights compared to others.I forgot this one.
I really want Riot to start changing things, I am getting extremely bored of the current Support Role after reading all the things that are comming.
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Tsamari wrote...
God i'm so bad with Vayne but i always do good with her.Then you are not bad, your enemies are worse! <3
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Tsamari
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idmb22 wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
God i'm so bad with Vayne but i always do good with her.Then you are not bad, your enemies are worse! <3
Wow people worse then my Wood 5 Vayne lol that funny.
oh and are you ever going to get a Avatar my friend? it's always funny seeing you without one. :)
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It depends on how you play the support role, really. Haven't you noticed that many of the top teams have supports as their captain? We see everything, we plan everything, and we're the only ones who suffers the least consequences from dying. That advantage is tremendous; it's up to whether you know how to use it.
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idmb22
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Tsamari wrote...
oh and are you ever going to get a Avatar my friend? it's always funny seeing you without one. :)Yeah, one day... I will get a proper Avatar. I haven't found an appropiate one yet, but in time I will. xD
Zolnir wrote...
It depends on how you play the support role, really. Haven't you noticed that many of the top teams have supports as their captain? We see everything, we plan everything, and we're the only ones who suffers the least consequences from dying. That advantage is tremendous; it's up to whether you know how to use it.It depends on the type of game; in SoloQ ppl tend to think they are the carries and dont give a shit about "teamwork" or "someone making calls", but as you said, within pro player teams, normally is the support the one making the calls because they are the ones "playing the vision game mainly".
Otherwise, normally the calls are made by the jungler or the mid laner, since the top lane normally is isolated and the adc is not the best to initiate. xD
I hope, with the vision changes, ppl learn wtf a ward is and how it is used, because I really hate that attitude of "wards cost gold and I need tons of damage"... then he gets ganked, he dies and says "wtf?! support ward the map". It is retarded. xD
And yeah, supports have a great advantage, but since they lack power and only have utility, its very hard to carry games, and sadly enough, in low leagues, ppl dont know how to take advantage of vision, but whatever.
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what you guys think of the patch notes? I'm kind of pissed about how kassadin's late game is actually kinda being buffed :S, they nerfed the nullsphere damage a bit but made his early game mid so much better with the added silence duration, was hoping they'd give him a bigger nerf but oh well.
In other news, I managed to get my smurf into diamond promos lol, want to try and get 2 diamond accounts by the end of the season
In other news, I managed to get my smurf into diamond promos lol, want to try and get 2 diamond accounts by the end of the season
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Well, they don't know how to play support then. I always told my friend that if he wants to get better at the game, he needs to play support.
Speaking of which, I never thought Annie > Thresh in a 2v2 lane - and it was my first time playing her in a long time too. That was really surprising.
Speaking of which, I never thought Annie > Thresh in a 2v2 lane - and it was my first time playing her in a long time too. That was really surprising.
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Tsamari
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i got on League of Legends today to see that someone used me for Mystery Gifts and i got Forecast Janna from it.
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idmb22
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PandarasBox wrote...
what you guys think of the patch notes? I'm kind of pissed about how kassadin's late game is actually kinda being buffed :S, they nerfed the nullsphere damage a bit but made his early game mid so much better with the added silence duration, was hoping they'd give him a bigger nerf but oh well.In other news, I managed to get my smurf into diamond promos lol, want to try and get 2 diamond accounts by the end of the season
I am pissed off with Kass changes overall. As you said, safer early and stronger (overall) late game, despite he now needs to use his R you deal damage. But, man... It isnt enough justification to buff it.
I find J4 E+Q changes good, it was hilarious the width of the combo. xD
Also, I don't like the nerf in TT Vision Items... there are no wards and stealth champions are strong innatevely, but well, we will see.
Heimer is rally good. New Sivir is strong. JInx is finally more in line with other ADCs but still is a good pick.
On a side note... My team failed the first Diamond Promo on 3v3 with 2 wins and 3 defeats. We are on 2nd Promo right now with 1 defeat. xD
We are facing a lot of cheesy teams that focus on atkspd + life steal and it is annoying to beat.
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idmb22 wrote...
PandarasBox wrote...
what you guys think of the patch notes? I'm kind of pissed about how kassadin's late game is actually kinda being buffed :S, they nerfed the nullsphere damage a bit but made his early game mid so much better with the added silence duration, was hoping they'd give him a bigger nerf but oh well.In other news, I managed to get my smurf into diamond promos lol, want to try and get 2 diamond accounts by the end of the season
I am pissed off with Kass changes overall. As you said, safer early and stronger (overall) late game, despite he now needs to use his R you deal damage. But, man... It isnt enough justification to buff it.
I find J4 E+Q changes good, it was hilarious the width of the combo. xD
Also, I don't like the nerf in TT Vision Items... there are no wards and stealth champions are strong innatevely, but well, we will see.
Heimer is rally good. New Sivir is strong. JInx is finally more in line with other ADCs but still is a good pick.
On a side note... My team failed the first Diamond Promo on 3v3 with 2 wins and 3 defeats. We are on 2nd Promo right now with 1 defeat. xD
We are facing a lot of cheesy teams that focus on atkspd + life steal and it is annoying to beat.
ya, i've only played around 30 tt games and my team is only low plat, but i find atk speed xin, jarvan to be extremely annoying.
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I don't know. Attack speed Xin has been there forever, I mean his kit was made so he could combo Three Talon strike as fast as possible before the enemy runs away. It's expected that they will build some form of attack speed items - if not runes/masteries.
Though I don't know about J4, though when played middle lane it doesn't matter what he build - he's just hard to deal with. The only weakness of J4 mid is that he doesn't scale well at all into late game.
Though I don't know about J4, though when played middle lane it doesn't matter what he build - he's just hard to deal with. The only weakness of J4 mid is that he doesn't scale well at all into late game.
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idmb22
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Well Pandara, wait until you find a Garen/Fiora/Xin + Nunu comp, then you will feel pain! XD
No joking, those 3 with AtkSpd, some AD and LS, are extremely annoying to deal with, let alone if they build BotRK (which in my opinion is still too good for its cost), Sanguinare Blade and Black Cleaver.
It is not impossible to beat, but it is extremely annoying.
No joking, those 3 with AtkSpd, some AD and LS, are extremely annoying to deal with, let alone if they build BotRK (which in my opinion is still too good for its cost), Sanguinare Blade and Black Cleaver.
It is not impossible to beat, but it is extremely annoying.