Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts

(American)English is easy to pick up but, practically impossible to master. As mentioned before I believe it is all about your first language. The "basic" groups of languages can be split into three parts English (American, British) Latin (Spanish, French,etc) Asian (Koren, Japanese, Chines,etc)

English find Latin based difficult due to the sentence structure followed by Asian being more difficult because of the much larger character base.

Asians can find English difficult because of the various "rules" and "exceptions to the rules" that English is full of.

Latin based languages are pretty much in the center. English and Asian languages are about the same difficulty for native speakers.

Everyone in general is at fault. The companies that gave out these bad loans (business,House and Cars) made bad business practices causing them to fail, people paniced and withdrew their money thus removing the disposable capital for the bank, weakening dollar, rising energy prices.

There are many smaller reasons and a few major reasons. I have even heard rumors that Hedge funds are part of the problem too though I never looked into it. The whole thing is just everyone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and mom is pissed.

I'm not even voting for McCain. I didn't vote for Bush either. Can't say I'm a republican supporter because I never voted for them. The closest any candidate of the republican party ever got to my support was Ron Paul (Smaller Government, Lower Taxes, Less spending, Ending Federal Income Tax, Opposes the patriot act,etc) Then I he dropped out but, as much research I had done to that point I liked what I read.

Which reminds me I need to do more research on Bob Barr. If he doesn't interest me then I'll probably not vote.

You have a point but, I have viewed and reviewed Obama's policies and his history since he announced his candidacy. I did the same for every candidate from Ron Paul to Hilary Clinton to Bob Barr.

All Obama is offering is a socialist state where the Government own all large industries from Big Oil, to the "Big 3" automakers, colleges, etc, etc. He claims to lower taxes even though he promises billions more in spending. How does he plan to pay for more social security, medicare, medicaid benefits, college,healthcare,etc? The cliche' reason of "tax those evil rich people. They don't deserve what they earn. They don't deserve to have while you go without. Tax those evil rich people!".



All that is happening is the rich are being forced at gunpoint to pay for the middle class. Under that logic, Hibia, Jacob and others who have a regular job should pay for me because well, they have money and I don't.

His foreign policy is to sit down with Iran without making them agree to conditions. To legitimize Iran and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's insane comments about wiping and entire country, people, culture off the face of the planet. His insane comments about trying to bring about the end of the world for religious beliefs.

The reason I think Obama supporters are idiots is because of what they say. "Yeah, Obama will give us free college, and health care. Everyone can get a college level education and we will all be healthy." "You won't vote for Obama because your a racist!" and all sorts of deluded nonsense. if I hear someone say something stupid my brain automatically labels them as stupid. Just like when I hear the guy in the tin foil hat ramble crazy things my brain labels them as crazy. If you can provide solid information as to how his "policies" are supposed to help people (that aren't cut from his website) but, actually come up with news articles, excerpts from books, or other solid information. Then you can debate me but, just rattling the same dribble as every other lemming Obama supporter isn't going to change my mind. Present Facts, not opinions if you want to change my mind. I'd vote for Obama if you can prove that he isn't a socialist, class-envy puppeteer.

Then again I don't see why I bother to educate people when everyone thinks Obama is the next Messiah.

(Whitelion: Nice call on editing my argument rather than come up with your own)

Wanna know why people continue to support McCain? It is because Obama is a liar and doesn't know shit about anything other than promising "change" without having the platform to make it happen. When you promise "change" and you associate with people like William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, Rashid Khalidi, Michael Klonsky. People know they don't want your kind of "change". When you associate with and receive money from these kinds of radicals. Average Americans aren't going to support you which describes the loss of his lead in the polls as of late. Intelligent and rational people are starting to realize how much of an extremist he really is. Most of the people who still vote for Obama are voting for three reasons 1) They hate republicans which voting because you hate a group is a waste of a vote. 2) Because he's black. 3) They are uneducated about the person and policies behind the Charisma

I dislike McCain but, I'll take another republican over a socialist any day.

Everyone will be affected. Europe is in a recession and if America hits a depression which may or may not be a lot worse than the 1930's depression. It'll ripple through the world since all countries are interdependent.

What I was trying to say is the market sets the price of oil in dollars. They don't use francs, pounds, yen,etc. When the markets try to figure out how much a barrel of oil is worth then price it in dollars then they make the conversions to the currency of other countries. Its how the world gauges the value of oil. It doesn't affect the world because as dollar falls in value their money is growing stronger when you trade the currencies against one another.




America doesn't produce anything really. Back in the great depression we had the industries to make things. Which is a roundabout way of saying we import more than we export (industries give us things to export). We also didn't have massive debt that we do now. The difference now is we don't make things like we used to. The entire economy is basically trading debt and credit between everyone. Every real industry has been outsourced and all the major industries that remain are being run into the ground by monkeys in suits.

Best of luck my friend. I am sure I will envy your trip.

As whitelion already said


As the value of our money falls the price of oil will go up since the dollar is pinned as the measurement of oil. Along with oil prices goes up (also gas prices) the prices for food and everything else will go up along with the price of oil since we rely on diesel trucks to move goods around the country. The bottom line on this part is everything is going to get a lot more expensive and many economist believe America is heading for a great depression. One major difference between the 1930's depression is this time we don't have the industries and such to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps.

We be fucked. Just prepare yourself for the worst but, hope for the best.

Yet, if they want tax breaks and such then why do they tend to vote for the very people who raise their taxes for more hand out programs? You can look at the voting records of either of the main parties and it is pretty obvious which party raises taxes the most. Anyone who understands economics knows the best way to help the poor is to lower these taxes across the board. Sure, the rich will get a larger portion of money back based on the same percentage but, those people buy things, that money finds it's way into the pockets of the rest of us.

If there politicians really want to generate income they wouldn't raise taxes they would just be more efficient about collecting the billions of unpaid taxes by international companies that have business here. Every year billions go unpaid by international companies and instead of collecting those taxes, the government just raises taxes on the rich and the poor alike thus tightening the noose around our economy even more.

Even though I am an avid political follower...I didn't watch much of the debate. I didn't find it interesting listening to a socialist debate an old person. I think I got annoyed and changed the channel when I kept hearing Barrack interject tiny comments when McCain was speaking. I never heard any of them clearly but, I guess he was voicing his disagreement with what McCain was saying.

I think the two are pretty much even. It all depends on if American vote on the issues or buy in what the salesman is selling. Either way, I dislike the two choices America has. Where is the change they are promising? All I see is more of the same.

This will probably brand me as a racist but, A lot of black people stay poor because they feel as if they don't have to work for it because of slavery, that and social conditions. A young black male can choose between illegal activities such as selling drugs, gang activity,etc or they can choose to take the harder route and get an education and earn an honest living. Not to say all of them do this but, a majority of my black co-workers and other agree that many have this mentality of entitlement.

In reality the only people who can help the "poor" are themselves. It is a harsh reality that you can't give something to someone for free and expect them to change. Just like the old saying "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."



I agree 100%. My Utopian dream is a Laissez-faire system but, I don't trust humans enough to allow that system to be put into place. I think people are too stupid and it would lead to some very very bad things. To give you a better idea of what I disapprove of. Remember the old policies of Ford Motor company? In order to work for them, you couldn't drink, smoke, gamble, you had to attend church on Sundays, you can only own ford vehicles (which is still enforced today). They would actually have management come to you home and search to make sure you were staying within the "rules". I disagree with those kinds of policies since I believe once you are not on company time, whatever you do is none of their business. I remember a story a while back that a delivery driver for a grocery store similar to food lion or whatever was fired because his employer found out he cross dressed.

To be fair. Wal-mart is like the dark side of capitalism. Ever read any of the thousands of lawsuits failed against wal-mart all the time? Everything from sexism in the world place, racism, human rights violation, environmental violation, fraud, etc,etc. The only reason why a company like wal-mart is even still as large is because the average idiot doesn't give a fuck about those things. Doesn't care about it's union busting practices, doesn't care about how poorly it treats it's workers in other countries like China or Germany, they don't care about the racist or sexist policies, or the fact the company steals from it employees. No, these douche-fags only care about saving ten cents on the paper they use to wipe their ass.

That is why I am for capitalism but, also support laws against such shady business practices.

That is the way I think we should return to. America just doesn't give a fuck about the world. Russia and or china could swallow up the rest of the world and America wouldn't give a flying fuck. We try to do good in the world and we are vilified by everyone even our own citizens. Just give up and not care. Which it has already been said before, its a catch 22. If we protect the world then we are the "terrorist", the "facist" or whatever. I am honestly tired of listening to every uneducated dildo out there claim we are the world's greatest evil but, when something happens everyone pisses their pants at the idea that America won't stand up and send it's youth to protect the other nations of the world.

I wasn't starting a flame war it's called a discussion..or commonly known as a "debate". You know, I present facts and evidence to support my claim. Then you do the same by presenting facts and evidence that supports your side. It continues until we either reach an agreement or one person's argument is proven invalid.

You claimed the FBI have a more important role. I challenged your opinion its the way the system works. I'm also not going to speak in only a single paragraph. I don't do this bullshit about two cents here, two cents there. I actually attempt to discuss things and in order to discuss them you have to type a lot more than a simple paragraph.

Capitalism works as long as idiots don't fuck the system up.

Anarchist
Capitalist
Communist
Corporatist
Fascist
Georgist
Islamic
Laissez-faire
Market socialist
Mercantilist
Protectionist
Socialist
Syndicalist
Third Way

These are the economic systems we have come up with so far. Anyone care to explain how this list of ideas is anything other than full of failure? Sure you have the Laissez-faire system, capitalism and, anarchism but, basically the rest of these systems were discarded for various reasons. The most common reason is that capitalism is the fairest system out of them all. People fear the laissez-faire system because of those "mean ol'e rich people (and a majority of the people) might do something to get rich while the rest of the jerk offs will sit and whine about how "unfair" the system is. Why is the system "unfair" you say? Because these people don't want to work. They don't want to put out effort they would rather siphon resources off society just like the parasite from its host.

Most American's think that the U.N. is a corrupt body. Since they have countries like Cuba, Yemen,etc on the "human rights" committee they believe that they can't be trust since everyone is bought off or at least has a price. Then there is the oil for food scandal and various other things the U.N. has done such as the Child sex trade

http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2007/030107UN_Sex.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7420798.stm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/301106abuse.htm

So many Americans just don't trust the U.N. and are very skeptical whenever the U.N. says anything. While the rest are busy sucking up to the U.N. because well, frankly they are a bunch of idiots that believe a "self investigating" organization will be entirely truthful.

Bah, I wanna be on the front lines. You know, pistol whipping terrorist, smoking an overly large cigar, unshaven coarse stubble on my face. Wielding a large caliber gun with the name "Ol' painless" painted into it.

But seriously, if I join a branch of the services. It would be either the army or the marines. Fuck being in a tin can in the middle of the ocean so the Navy is out and the Air force. pfft like the would put me in charge of a jet. Wel,, I guess there goes the army they wouldn't even let me near the tanks. Damn it! Never get to have any fun.

I feel like I'm just not connecting the dots. How am I suppose to go to college while serving the front lines? Unless they teach you when you aren't on patrol or whatever.