Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
Ziggy wrote...
I usually find it before Fpod does ;)But, he's a grump in the morning. He usually rolls away from me if I start playing around with it
What else do you do to me when I'm unconscious? Should I be worried?
ashcrimson wrote...
The campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan, what they do here locally, or what goes on in other countries... what CAN you do? What you said Shag is true, for you to want to do something about this, then one should rise into a position where in s/he can do something about it otherwise, it leads to nowhereHere's a tip rattle someones cage.
A few alternatives
Write your rep
Redundency is redundant.
Another tip: Call them, easy enough to pick up a phone book and look'em up.
Last resort: Brick through the window but, only if you've *really* got your panties in a knot over something. Oh and don't forget the note, a brick through the window doesn't say much on it's own. Though I don't condone violence...except revolutions...and riots. Oh I do so love a riot.
Kind of Important wrote...
Freedom of speech/assembly, and all that sure. But there should be limits, moral limits at least.Who sets those limits champ? You? Me? Congress? Who shall we grant the power to decide who can say what people can say, where they can say it, and when they can say it? Dangerous territory if I do say so myself. Freedom of Speech like any ACLU member will tell you is designed to protect the minority schools of thought instead of simply protecting whatever the majority says is correct. Going any deeper than that leads to discussions on mob mentality and mob rule. Dreadfully unpleasant things.
zachwolf wrote...
It isn't that its a cross its that a burning cross is consedered a threat. or at least in some states im not sure if it is in all.You are indeed correct sir! Cross burning is not protected speech.
Fancy that.
zachwolf wrote...
ashcrimson wrote...
Is there really no limit to the freedom of speech? Honestly im not that familiar with these, but if there isnt so you mean KKK people can do what these people are doing and just say what they want in public or in front of an african american church and say something like you will all go to hell?
acctually yes it is legall for the KKk to gather and protest. As long as they dont do anything violent are try to burn a cross the police can't od anything but sit there and monitor them.
I remember a while back watching some KKK grouping together and the cops sitting in their cars watching them.
I was unaware that cross burning wasn't protected. If Flag burning is protected I find it odd that a religious symbol is off limits. Hell a Crucifix of Jesus submerged in a jar of Urine is protected as free speech. Very odd for a cross to be protected...
In case people don't believe me go ahead and google "Piss Christ" which on a side note is one reason why I really fucking hate the national endowment for the arts. Wasting $15,000 on a jar of piss, someones bypass surgery or knee replacement could have been paid for with that much money.
Black Jesus JC wrote...
While i agree with most of this, i happen to disagree with the writers stance on health care. While i don't think what was passed was perfect, i think its a step in the right direction. I mean, yes it may not matter to you now, but when you get sick and have no money for things like surgery health insurance become important. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it
Also, all those government officals that campaigned against a public option? They get health insurance through the government.
And back to the main topic, i think its important to be informed. You don't have to follow every little thing, but i think keeping informed goes a long way
Nitpick: I was complaining how we are mandated to buy the product as a requirement to be a legal citizen. The only way to avoid having to spend your money is to renounce your citizenship. Oh and the notion that you can't afford it then the government will take money from other people to buy it for you.
Point of the matter is, "they didn't care about politics" and yet this bill has one of the largest impacts of the lives of every American citizen in the history of our country. If that isn't enough to get them to care for the bill or against the bill then the only thing that will help them is a lobotomy.
Personal politics: If you want insurance I believe you should be able to find cheap insurance that fit exactly what you need instead of those blanket plans where you have to pay for services that you will never use. I just think this was the wrong way to go about the changes. I wanted reform not a goddamn takeover. Notice how hypocritical it was for the Democrats to say these evil, vile insurance companies profit off other peoples misfortunes and yet, the bill makes it a crime to not hand your money over to these vile and evil corporations...
Edit: I hear wonderland makes more logical sense than this place. I should buy a timeshare.
Edit2: To be clear I'm not raging or attacking you JC. We both agree that reform was necessary but, the method is where we diverge. Though I do applaud Obama on the formation of individual health insurance markets where we have more power in the market place rather than huge corporations. Other than that I'd burn the bill and start over.
It's all in the details and which side has the best P.R. standing at home. The P.L.O. was considered a terrorist organization by the United States and Israel up until the Madrid conference in 93 or 94.
The Karen Rebels are called rebels (I assume) because they are fighting a military junta. Along with this quote from wiki
I can't offer much information on Burma simply because it isn't seen as important over here in the U.S. The best I can do is offer assumption and poorly educated guesses.
Countries often label a group a terrorist organization when they use means of terrorism bombings, kidnapings, etc.
In World War 2 the French Partisans, the Francs-tireurs, French Forces of the Interior among others were considered terrorists by Nazi Germany. It's all about perspective.
The Karen Rebels are called rebels (I assume) because they are fighting a military junta. Along with this quote from wiki
The KNU is a democratic organization, and supports human rights and democracy in Burma.
I can't offer much information on Burma simply because it isn't seen as important over here in the U.S. The best I can do is offer assumption and poorly educated guesses.
Countries often label a group a terrorist organization when they use means of terrorism bombings, kidnapings, etc.
In World War 2 the French Partisans, the Francs-tireurs, French Forces of the Interior among others were considered terrorists by Nazi Germany. It's all about perspective.
HentaiElder wrote...
Pretty admirable and powerful set of words there.Haha, in short, there's your answer as to "Why watch the news?" and "Why keep up with politics?". Sadly, I don't know if it's motivating enough to make one keep up with politics, though it should be.
If I motivate one person it was worth it. Sadly as PD said, few people will read the entire post or even my rant at the end.
PersonDude wrote...
+1. Good shit in here. But as you mentioned, you could be screaming all the truths in the world until your blue in the face, and no one will care cause everyone's too busy with their own entertainments. I bet only 5 people read the whole thing in this spoiler, tops.But you forgot to mention those who keep up on these happenings and have just given up on convincing the others knowing nothing can be done about it since the majority that's needed will not come to your aid.
It's sad but, it's true. Too many people don't care about who is controlling their own lives. The really depressing part is a portion of those people who don't care still manage to get up and cast a uninformed vote.
@Shaggy; I didn't cover this last night as I couldn't find a place to include it. I know politics are depressing and it makes you feel insignificant or even powerless but, if you don't do something then you won't change anything.
Side Note: This is why I argue against a strong central government and focus more on giving more power to state and local governments. At least these guys are close enough you can visit their office to talk, yell, protest, or throw tomatoes at their windows. They are also close enough to be "on the ground" so they can see and feel the effects of the problems in your area. Instead of living in lofty accommodations far removed from the peasants citizens.
I'm in agreement with the former ACLU director. Pushing back these protests whether they are supportive or critical of any event is an infringement of the rights that we all have.
Do I like what these people have to say? Absolutely not but, as anyone I'd consider a true patriot you'd defend to the death, their right to say it.
I really dislike these nutjobs but, first they silence these fanatics, then the government has the ability to silence talk radio or t.v. then finally your internet speech.
Do I like what these people have to say? Absolutely not but, as anyone I'd consider a true patriot you'd defend to the death, their right to say it.
I really dislike these nutjobs but, first they silence these fanatics, then the government has the ability to silence talk radio or t.v. then finally your internet speech.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
why should I know about the things Congress does? If I can do nothing at all to change what they are doing, why should I depress myself by listening to the changes being made?Spoiler:
Do politics matter if you're not going to hold any sort of political office
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Even if you do vote, aren't your choices pretty clear?
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Does anyone waver between whether pot should or should not be legal, or whether health care should or should not be reformed?
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:Warning:
This spoiler contains adult language, adult content, psychological nudity. Reader discretion advised.
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Unos Hambalos wrote...
@Penguin: Wow having a limit on how many people can comment on a picture is ridiculous, I think. Though I can see you are not serious with the questions (or not)I wasn't serious. I couldn't care less if the thread became a chat thread with people posting their pictures amongst the chatter but, Waar has started a mission to make the PyP thread NOT become a chat thread.
I simply wanted the rules set in stone so everybody had a guideline. That way if Waar overstepped his bounds people could call him on it and if another user falls under the definition of spamming in the thread then Waar can justify his actions.
I can't speak for the others but, I simply want to know where the line is specificly.
How many comments can be made until a new pic is required?
How many people can comment on a picture?
How far off center are comments allowed to be?
Can users post anecdotes of something in the picture that it reminds them of (i.e. a poster in the background, a figurine in the picture)?
What kind of comments are considered spam and deleted on site?
Can't blame people for wanting a solid definition of the rules.
How many comments can be made until a new pic is required?
How many people can comment on a picture?
How far off center are comments allowed to be?
Can users post anecdotes of something in the picture that it reminds them of (i.e. a poster in the background, a figurine in the picture)?
What kind of comments are considered spam and deleted on site?
Can't blame people for wanting a solid definition of the rules.
I'm throwing my support behind PD and TMS on this. I would prefer comments to be allowed with the guideline that the comment must be related to the picture in a direct manner or anecdote relating to the picture. As long as the comment can be justified as being tied into the picture some way.
Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Rbz wrote...
Tribly wrote...
Nationalism is nice and allNo, it isn't.
Without nationalism, we wouldn't have our American revolution now would we?
Yes, we fucking would.
Tribly is 50/50 on that. It wasn't a reason for the revolution as you pointed out. Nationalism was a factor but, only as a component of the whole. A culmination of all the reasons that sparked the revolution.
When we gave the finger to the king of England we said "Fuck you, we'll make our own country" that is a form of revolutionary nationalism. Not to mention the civic nationalism that influenced the very earliest documents and decisions.
Nationalism can be good or evil depending on how it's managed. At best you have the beginning of America (i.e. "Come and Join us, be apart of the greatness that is America.) at the worst you have Chauvinism or Jingoism.
Hamas would love to negotiate? You should read the charter. Stop the suicide bombings and amend the charter to remove the language about the "obliteration or nullification of Israel". So far this year we're doing good, no Israeli strikes (to my knowledge) and no Palestinians suicide bombers.
How many palestinians or Israeli have been killed? B'Tselem, The Israeli Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories reports that 4,908 Palestinians were killed by Israelis and 1,062 Israelis were killed by Palestinians between September 29, 2000 and December 26, 2008.
The U.S. only vetos bills or motions that are not in the U.S's interest. Removing the statehood of Israel doesn't do us a lot of good nor does pissing off one of our major allies in the region. We've been trying to persuade them to slow down the expansion of their settlements. Not much we can do, stop supporting them and leave a very pissed off, paranoid and isolated country armed with nuclear weapons surrounded by people that don't like them? Sounds like a wonderful way.
Random fact; Russia veto's more U.N. resolutions than we do.
How many palestinians or Israeli have been killed? B'Tselem, The Israeli Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories reports that 4,908 Palestinians were killed by Israelis and 1,062 Israelis were killed by Palestinians between September 29, 2000 and December 26, 2008.
The U.S. only vetos bills or motions that are not in the U.S's interest. Removing the statehood of Israel doesn't do us a lot of good nor does pissing off one of our major allies in the region. We've been trying to persuade them to slow down the expansion of their settlements. Not much we can do, stop supporting them and leave a very pissed off, paranoid and isolated country armed with nuclear weapons surrounded by people that don't like them? Sounds like a wonderful way.
Random fact; Russia veto's more U.N. resolutions than we do.
Uzumaki101 wrote...
Ziggy wrote...
Fpod and I got our shirts today.Spoiler:
I understand hiding Fpod's face. It would frighten the local folks. But why hide yours, Ziggy?
Also, Matching Pair is always cute. Even if it's sex related
I do have a political career to think about. Being known to fap to hentai doesn't draw the voters like you'd think.
Tribly wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Black Jesus JC wrote...
I'm black, and the other one is white. I think that is enough difference to tell the two jesus's apartSo what makes you different from the guy in the book? I know the other guy here can turn a field of grass, into a field of grass. What can you do?
He can turn water into vodka and a blind man into a pimp, can your Jesus do that?
and here I was betting he could turn water into Cristal. Such a disappointment. The other Jesus can turn any object into tabs of acid (of equal weight of course). Your move tribly.
blacktornado wrote...
You would not say the same if its your country at war/being slaughtered. If you have read my post (or did some research), the only outcome if this continues is the PALESTINIANS get killed. Israelis hardly ever die in this so called conflict.You do realize that Hamas and various other Palestinian groups were killing civilians as well right? Y'know blowing up buses, markets,etc. So, the Palestinians are just are bad in this "conflict". Instead of killing civilians and supporting a group that publicly states the annihilation of a country. Why not, oh..i dunno make a deal with Israel. They stop the expansion and agree to fund projects in Palestine to build up secular schools, along with other infrastructure like water treatment and roads in exchange for their security and active assistance in preventing attacks on Israel?
So Israel fronts a little bit of money and the Palestinians use their men to work the projects or if the Israeli's fear the money might be used to attack them. Let the U.N. or a generally neutral country like the Swiss be a third party with oversight of the money. The materials might have been bought by Israel but, the Palestinians will own everything. the building materials, the equipment, the boards, nails, hammers will all be Palestinian.
This idea is a lot better than each side trying to kill the other because at this rate the Palestinians will annihilate themselves by constantly being the barroom hero.
Black Jesus JC wrote...
I'm black, and the other one is white. I think that is enough difference to tell the two jesus's apartSo what makes you different from the guy in the book? I know the other guy here can turn a field of grass, into a field of grass. What can you do?
