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WhiteLion wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Water is killing your seed.I don't find it surprising that these things are ending up in our drinking water. It's been happening since your parents were our age. What is really disturbing is the obsession with bottled water which is bottled from the same municipal water sources. Basically, it's the same water you'd get from your tap for a few cents per glass and people would pay $2 for a bottle.
Anyways, think about it for a moment. Who controls our water supply? The government, usually the county government does. So, why is it a surprise when the government does this sort of thing when they control it?
The government isn't dumping things in the water supply, according to the article in the title post. The government is simply not preventing other entities from dumping stuff in the water supply. If deregulation and less government were the answer, then we have what we want. The government lets anyone dump anything they want in the water, and then people are free to choose whether to drink the water, pay extra money for spring water, or whatever. Of course that's a ludicrous scenario.
The government is not engaged in a conspiracy to pollute the water. In fact, they are the only entity capable of preventing anyone dumping anything they want in the water, which is why the government having and enforcing laws about dumping stuff in the water is a good thing. Who else is going to protect the water supplies? Angry mobs? Populist rioters? Private individuals lack any way to oppose these corporations except via the government and lawsuits(which of course require government and laws).
If anything, the way to keep the water less polluted is to have more stringent dumping regulations and penalties which are only capable of being enforced by the government.
In my eyes, government permission for the dumping is nothing different than if they were dumping the toxins themselves.
I somehow feel this was a swipe at my minimalist government/regulation stance which is absurd interpretation of my past words. Nor did I ever accuse the government of some conspiracy to destroy our water. Anyways, I've always promoted better regulation, not more. You can have 100 terrible and generally ineffective laws or you can have 10 laws that do the same job.
So let me be clear on this. The government is not preventing toxins from being dumped into our water supply by companies, so hang the bastards (not literally).
Water is killing your seed.
I don't find it surprising that these things are ending up in our drinking water. It's been happening since your parents were our age. What is really disturbing is the obsession with bottled water which is bottled from the same municipal water sources. Basically, it's the same water you'd get from your tap for a few centers per glass and people would pay $2 for a bottle.
Anyways, think about it for a moment. Who controls our water supply? The government, usually the county government does. So, why is it a surprise when the government does this sort of thing when they control it?
I don't find it surprising that these things are ending up in our drinking water. It's been happening since your parents were our age. What is really disturbing is the obsession with bottled water which is bottled from the same municipal water sources. Basically, it's the same water you'd get from your tap for a few centers per glass and people would pay $2 for a bottle.
Anyways, think about it for a moment. Who controls our water supply? The government, usually the county government does. So, why is it a surprise when the government does this sort of thing when they control it?
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Is anyone else surprised at the number of people who (seemingly) believe that human life is going to end in the next hundred years? Or at how many people don't care about human life ending?I'm not sure if I'll ever have kids, but if I do, I don't like the thought of them living in a hellhole. Or them being the last generation of humans.
Yes, human life will eventually end, as all things eventually end, but hopefully it won't happen anytime soon. And by soon, I do mean the next million years or so. And hopefully, by the time that disease or the sun or whatever does threaten to destroy humanity, we'll be able to fly away to a different planet or build space colonies or something.
Please don't tell me I'm the only person who feels sick at the thought of all human life ending. I'm not saying that global warming is real or an immediate threat (though I'm also not saying that it isn't real), but it is true that humans pollute a hell of a lot and waste a lot, so it's understandable that years of that behavior could affect the environment and hurt us. Even if global warming is completely fake, it should at least be a wake-call, telling us that we can't be complete douches when it comes to the environment.
Now, I'm not green in any way, but I'm also not a person who drives a gas-guzzling vehicle just for kicks and throws all my trash on the side of the road because it's easier that way. I don't know much about taking care of the environment, but I do care. Shouldn't we all be a little concerned about the environment? Saying "We're all gonna die anyway" isn't any sort of solution. It's just being lazy. If we're all going to die anyway, and that's not a problem, then I should just get a gun, go down to a mall, and count men as one point, women as two points, and children as five points.
I blame the media, when you hear the sky is falling everyday unless we do (X) then eventually you don't care. On top of that is the mentality that one man can't make a difference and since it appears to them like nobody is doing anything to change anything then nobody cares. That and an indoctrination that being born human means that you are lower than bacteria or a virus. I've heard many times of people classifying humans as a virus instead of mammal. You can see where I'm going with this. A virus destroys its host while repopulating at an accelerated rate and then when the host is just about dead they move to a new host. For us, our "host" is the planet. We fuck with the planets, we trash it, pollute it, rape it and then our "plan" in theory, is to migrate to a new home.
I never understood why companies hire based on connections instead of skill/knowledge then complain when these new hires are incompetent or lazy.
I personally have been thinking about going to college for political science (bet you didn't see that one coming). The applications for a degree like that are 20-40k jobs or I can go four more years to make it a total of eight so I can get a 80-100k job. The problem is, the higher paying job has a chance to be nationalized by the government in the future. Thus dooming me to a meager existence of a tax leaching government employee.
I think another problem with college is narrow degrees. If your degree only has one or two possible jobs associated with it then you are going to have a hard time finding a job in the first place. This problem is multiplied by the fact that our economy is dropping in size.
As Dante said, I'd rather be poor and happy then be miserable and bored at a decent paying job.
I personally have been thinking about going to college for political science (bet you didn't see that one coming). The applications for a degree like that are 20-40k jobs or I can go four more years to make it a total of eight so I can get a 80-100k job. The problem is, the higher paying job has a chance to be nationalized by the government in the future. Thus dooming me to a meager existence of a tax leaching government employee.
I think another problem with college is narrow degrees. If your degree only has one or two possible jobs associated with it then you are going to have a hard time finding a job in the first place. This problem is multiplied by the fact that our economy is dropping in size.
As Dante said, I'd rather be poor and happy then be miserable and bored at a decent paying job.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
But the major things can be very difficult and/or cost a lot of money, like getting solar panels, messing with your car so that it runs on vegetable oil (or buying an electric car or hybrid), and updating all the stuff you own with "green" products. I think it would actually be cheaper to just buy a house that's already green than to replace everything in a typical home with green products.Hybrids aren't cost efficient enough to really be considered "green" technology at the current time. It'll take the vehicles life time for the "fuel savings" to add up enough to really make any debate for them. Plus, the current price for replacing a battery for a Toyota Prius is sitting at a heft $2600 which really just means that once the battery is used up (usually around the estimated 10yr mark) nobody is going to invest in the repairs to get the vehicle up and running. I read an article in a magazine which I was getting work done on my car that debated that current hybrids are basically throw away cars and exist solely to prey on the idiotic nature of some "green freaks".
Solar panels the last time I heard were an expensive 10,000 for a small array and can take up to ten years to recoup the savings and begin to produce a profit. Though I heard about technology or an innovation actually that "saves" the cold from night in Arizona to cool buildings during the daytime to save energy. The main problem with all the green technology is that it is currently expensive to produce and market.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
Question: Do you like Ron Paul?If it was directed at me, I'm in the same boat as whitelion. Ron Paul is a good man with some slight "problems" he's not really wrong but, the devils of his plans are in the details. Though, I support isolationism to a degree. It seems no matter what we do/don't do or why we do it, America is automatically evil. This is why I support the isolationism. Don't send aid or anything military to anybody, anywhere. Let the rest of the world protect their respective candy asses. We shouldn't send our troops to fight and die for some person who will only demonize them.
Also, it's a little off-topic, but it needs to be said - it's funny that when the tsunamis happened, America was quick to help out the foreign countries, but when Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, the city and its inhabitants didn't get even one-tenth of the amount of aid that was given to the tsunami victims. The country could definitely spend some more time and effort watching over its own people, before we try to help others.
Anyways, about the tax rallies, it's good to see people protesting, it shows that some people still care, but it seems like the whole tax mess can be chalked up to people wanting their cake and eating it, too. It's like that episode of The Simpsons where the teachers went on strike, and Skinner and Krabapple (her real name's too hard to spell) argued about the issue. Krabapple said that the teachers deserved more money, and the audience agreed; Skinner said that they'd have to raise taxes, and the audience booed.
I think some people genuinely want less government influence, while a lot of other people simply want to have more money in their paychecks, without caring about what taxes pay for. While I do hate paying taxes, I understand that the money is going somewhere, and while I don't think the money is being appropriately spent right now, I believe that it could be properly spent. If I wanted decent public schools in my area, I'd accept that my taxes would have to be higher than in a city with shitty public schools. That said, I wouldn't want my taxes to be higher just so the city could have a kick-ass football stadium, but if that happened, I'd move someplace where they didn't expect me to pay for a worthless fucking stadium.
For me, I equate taxes that aren't voluntary to theft. I mean, what is the basic definition of theft?
Taking something from somebody by fraud or force without their permission.
A system that takes money from people before they ever even get it is basically theft. You can dress it up or rationalize it however you like but, it's still theft. Don't get me wrong, taxes run the government which is a necessary evil but, a government shouldn't be funded through theft. So a system where only the more die hard can "avoid" paying taxes is the best idea for changing our current system. Everybody has heard me promote the FairTax before and it is the most progressive tax floating out there amongst the people. Taxing people based on what they spend instead of what they earn. In a nutshell, those who don't pay income taxes (Drug dealers, illegal immigrants,etc) will pay into the system.
Georgia has the seventh largest illegal immigrant population. The most recent record I could find is from 2000 but, stay with me on this.
228,000 illegal immigrants
Money they pay into the current system. $0 as almost all Illegal immigrants are paid under the table. Now, they have to buy something, somewhere at sometime in a store. Which means? That's right, they pay sales tax. Lets say all these immigrants spend a dollar at the FairTax amount for sales tax (23%) which would turn out roughly $52,000. Now, think about drug dealers, prostitutes and various other "jobs" that don't pay income tax. These people never pay a cent in income tax but, they have to buy things like food, cars, clothing,etc.
Anyways, by removing income tax you give people more money to invest. More money in savings, I.R.A.'s, 401k's and the like. I firmly believe that an individual can plan their own retirement better than the government can for them (Social Security).
Plus, you don't have to file taxes under the FairTax which makes the dreaded April 15th just another spring day.
I could go on but, then I won't shut up about it.
Wouldn't it have been awesome if they formed a relationship because of it? I can imagine them telling their children about "how Mommy and Daddy met".
Tegumi wrote...
Question: Do you like Ron Paul?If it was directed at me, I'm in the same boat as whitelion. Ron Paul is a good man with some slight "problems" he's not really wrong but, the devils of his plans are in the details. Though, I support isolationism to a degree. It seems no matter what we do/don't do or why we do it, America is automatically evil. This is why I support the isolationism. Don't send aid or anything military to anybody, anywhere. Let the rest of the world protect their respective candy asses. We shouldn't send our troops to fight and die for some person who will only demonize them.
Tegumi wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Despite what people may think, Americans want smaller government, they want less interference in their daily lives, removal of entitlement programs.Until, of course, the economy busts, a hurricane hits a major city, or old people want their healthcare subsidized.
I'm hoping for a grassroots change in the mentality of Americans. To go back to the mentality our parents and grandparents had. To work hard and persevere in times of hardship instead of running to the government begging our lords and masters to help us.
WhiteLion wrote...
I fail to see how this protest is related to "taxation without representation"(except for residents of DC perhaps). These people are free to vote in fiscally responsible small government politicians. They don't.It wasn't a literal "taxation without representation" but, more of a "taxation without proper representation". I see this as inspiring because it shows me that people care enough about conservative economics to actually protest. Sure, there are people out amongst the party lines but, this adds more fuel to the FairTax movement. Despite what people may think, Americans want smaller government, they want less interference in their daily lives, removal of entitlement programs. Politicians only tell us what we want to hear to vote. They will tell us that "everybody" wants item X even though item X is the opposite of what people want.
Anyways, true fiscal conservative people would want to change the tax code so people can understand our tax code unlike our current tax chief or whatever the guys position is. Another is to remove income tax and replace it with a consumption tax (i.e. FairTax) where people can invest their money more and in the long run spend more. The politicians won't be able to use income tax as a vote machine. Also a true conservative would be with us and want S.S. to come down, government spending to be reigned in instead of just the blank check writing they have been doing. Everybody should have noticed now that the recent years the government (namely congress) has just thrown money at the problem instead of fixing it. The government is borrowing money every year to pay for its spending. Even a child would know that spending more than you earn is never a good thing.
Edit: I recently found out that several "Liberal" media outlets claim that everybody who attended a rally was either insane or an extremist. Yet, for extremist there was no violence. Try to have no violence at a G20 summit or a code pink rally, ain't gonna happen.
Callonia wrote...
Uhh, there was rallies? I know the boston tea party happened. But, any chance you could enlighten the newcomers?A.k.a. "Tea parties". Just protests against the government for what they feel as wrong doing on behalf of the government. People are fed up with the government stealing 35% or more of a working mans paycheck 68% if you are "rich". The speed at which money is being spent. The complex and generally unfair tax code. The "stimulus", bail outs,etc. The list goes on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8001242.stm
Dante1214 wrote...
Spoiler:
I concur wholeheartedly. I myself am a minority being that I'm native American. I have yet to ever call somebody a racist unless it was obvious that I was joking. Usually, a joke relating to someones dislike of something that doesn't involve race such as not liking star wars I would reply
"What are ya? Racist?"
Changing ones behavior based on those around you isn't racist. If black gangsters are beating and robbing people. It's logical to assume that the two black gangsters you see probably want to beat and rob you. It's not racist to assume the Hispanic guys hanging out in front of Home Depot are illegals.
Here in America, we marked this tax day with rallies across the country.
Why are the protesting? They are protesting against rampant government spending without actual "results", government power grabs at what little power the people have, the "tax and spend" philosophy that democrats are accused of having, among many other things but, the core reason is the way that government has been mishandling our money for generations. Even people promoting the FairTax.
So how did we protest? Not just with signs, and the typical protesting stuff. We dumped tea, just like we did at the Boston Tea party. Over the taxation without representation which this protest is along the lines of "Taxation without proper representation"
For me, I find this nothing less than inspiring. What are your thoughts?
Why are the protesting? They are protesting against rampant government spending without actual "results", government power grabs at what little power the people have, the "tax and spend" philosophy that democrats are accused of having, among many other things but, the core reason is the way that government has been mishandling our money for generations. Even people promoting the FairTax.
So how did we protest? Not just with signs, and the typical protesting stuff. We dumped tea, just like we did at the Boston Tea party. Over the taxation without representation which this protest is along the lines of "Taxation without proper representation"
For me, I find this nothing less than inspiring. What are your thoughts?
WhiteLion wrote...
And they are free to refuse the money. In fact, libertarians tend to think that we shouldn't even have offered them any money anyways. If this were a statist nation, the government would just come and take control of all the banks. Even with the bailout money, the government isn't interested in directly running these institutions, the sentiment is more that these institutions screwed up and they need to prove that they are going to move in a significantly different direction if they want to be bailed out at taxpayer expense. The whole firing of Big 3 CEOs was a bit silly and more for show than anything, but the government isn't forcibly taking over companies. Even the whole gas gouging thing was mainly espoused by a small number of politicians trying to drum up populist support.it wasn't just a small number of politicians. It was a majority of the democratic party. Namely Reid, Pelosi,etc. You may see it as drumming up populist support and I see it as the old "eat the rich" strategy that is becoming more and more popular with every passing day. A recent poll on CNN said that 53% of Americans think Capitalism is the better system while 20% said socialism is. Yes, I realize that is only 73% but, the remaining voted "not sure". It's an undeniable fact that the democratic party wish to remodel America after the European socialist system. These sorts of changes can't be abrupt as Americans would riot in protest. A good politician would make changes slowly and secretly.
I would like to clarify that I'm not screaming "the end is nigh" for America but, I'm seeing the warning signs that the shift is starting to happen and I'm calling them out before it happens since I'm against socialism which is another argument for another time.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Plus, what's with the whole "O noes, America is becoming communistic!" stuff? I've heard that said so much recently, and it doesn't make much sense. If America was becoming a "horrible" Communistic country, the government wouldn't be bailing out big companies; it'd be dismantling big companies, making everyone become farmers, and doing a huge cross-country check to make sure that all citizens have a place to stay and food (and later on, A TV in every bedroom, a car in every garage, blah blah blah).Spoiler:
By saying he's turning America communist they are talking about the state taking control of major industries. Currently, the banking industry is being forced to take money with huge strings attached to the point that banks are refusing the money because the strings are just ridiculous. Last year during the "fuel crisis" when gas was about $4/gal there was talk about the government taking over the oil industry to stop the "gouging" that politicians claimed was happening which for anybody who stopped to look at the numbers would realize the profit margins of $0.3/gal aren't "gouging" but, the sentiment was gaining popularity.
I understand Fpod saying stuff like that (and I'll admit that he has some damn good points), but he was saying it before Obama even took office. It seems that the majority of the internet wanted Ron Paul to win, then wanted Obama to win (and very much so), and now have turned completely against Obama. There's even a conspiracy video made by the guy who made Zeitgeist. It took him months to make one about the Bush administration, but apparently Obama is such a monster, that he needed a video before two full months of his presidency had even passed. What the hell?
Yep, my hatred for Obama is quite legendary. I think I was the first person on Fakku to be avidly against him. Though, I'm not exactly fond of Bush either due to his expansion of domestic spying then Obama building on that. The rumors of Obama trying to protect the domestic spying program from lawsuits the would block the program based on constitutional grounds should cause some concern even amongst the most die hard Obama supporters.
This is just a theory but, I think the reason why the internet turned against Obama is because he didn't keep him promises. He claimed he'd make government more transparent, more accountable,etc. Yet, with his stimulus bill he passed even the people voting on it only had a single night to read like 500 pages. Then we have the breaking up of the "ole boys club" when all he did was hire ex Clinton advisers. I could go on but, I believe I've made my point. He is already breaking promises he made during his campaign.
Broken Promises
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WhiteLion wrote...
I don't think this is a correct interpretation of how this stuff works in regards copyright law. Some forms of media have digital copyright code written into them, and the versions of them that are "shared" are identifiable because they have been cracked. Even so, the burden of proof would be on accuser in to show that the material violated copyright agreements. Burden of proof is a bit easier in the case of child porn.Recent social "mentality" changes have begun to shift the responsibility of proving innocence on the accused rather than the accuser having to prove guilt. As well as the mentality that somebody is guilty until proven innocent instead of what it should be.
This is probably a poor example but, a man was taking pictures of his children on a slide in a public park. Several women started accusing him of being a child molester/sick freak/etc and even called the cops. The cop sided with the women until the man was able to prove that the children he was taking pictures of were indeed his own children.
Though the digital copyright code is a saving point but, how impractical would it really be to check every program on a person laptop before allowing them entry? Checking their O.S., their media players, winrars, music, games, etc. Airport security is already strict and mind numbingly slow this will just increase the waiting time
Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
i hope the dumb asses that voted for obama are happy
Are you actually trying to say that if the republicans won things would be any different? What people don't seem to realize is that both the democrats and the republicans are batting for the same team. The difference between Obama and another politician amounts to a smile and a wink before he rapes you.
Capitalism is not about "freedom" or "democracy", it just eats away at them, and what you see here is a result of this. This is a result of a society which places the accumulation of material wealth over the affirmation of quality-of-living of it's people.
There has been no mention of capitalism. This is several governments overstepping their limits as governments. A government can NOT do anything that I myself can't. The government gets it's power from its citizens that then in turn lend those rights to the government. Its part of our whole "social contract".
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Anyways, about searching laptops at airports and such, what would happen if I was getting on a plane with my laptop and they wanted to search it, but I had it password protected? Could they actually arrest me if I refused to give them the password?ShaggyJebus wrote...
Searching computers for child porn or whatever doesn't even make sense. It's not like checking all computers and deleting CP will actually get rid of it. Shit, if I had a ton of CP and wanted to "smuggle" it from one country to another, I would just put it all into a winrar file, upload it to Megaupload or Rapidshare and password-protect it, and download it once I'm in another country. (Or send it to someone in another country with instructions.)They weren't speaking of child porn specifically they were really meaning "shared" music, movies, games,etc. Which you can't prove that you d/l'd your music or movies without the case in your hand. So they can just say you stole them and confiscate your laptop or your mp3 player, fine you and such.
I don't see this as the government sticking its nose into the entertainment industries woes like Nate said. I see this as pushing an agenda of government control. These things take time and this is the first step. It's not like they would do these sorts of things overnight they do it gradually, slowly.
I would laugh at knowing I was right about him if it wasn't so damn scary knowing that I was right. Things like this are the reason why I am so avidly against expansion of governmental powers and influence. Maybe people who got swept up in Obamania will finally come to their senses, I doubt they will though.
I hope this administration turns out to be a wake up call to Americans. That politicians only tell them what they want to hear for votes. These bastards don't believe in this shit they feed you. Warning them that this blind partisanship, the lemming way of voting solely on party rather than policies is not the way to run a country.
As a clip in the video said "This is change, you can't believe."
Already, he's broken promises and begun an invasion of our liberties while expanding governments control by leaps and bounds. Selecting a bunch of criminals and political insiders as his cabinet when claiming he was going to break up the "ole boys club". Claiming transparency when he pulled the overnight bullshit with the "stimulus" and this secrecy of policy making. Same shit, different asshole.
I hope this administration turns out to be a wake up call to Americans. That politicians only tell them what they want to hear for votes. These bastards don't believe in this shit they feed you. Warning them that this blind partisanship, the lemming way of voting solely on party rather than policies is not the way to run a country.
As a clip in the video said "This is change, you can't believe."
Already, he's broken promises and begun an invasion of our liberties while expanding governments control by leaps and bounds. Selecting a bunch of criminals and political insiders as his cabinet when claiming he was going to break up the "ole boys club". Claiming transparency when he pulled the overnight bullshit with the "stimulus" and this secrecy of policy making. Same shit, different asshole.