Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
Okay, lets put the politicians on a tight leash, make all government activity transparent, then it will be easy for everyone to see whether they are acting in their own interest or not. But weren't you in favor of the government keeping secrets that might cause riots? Surely if people find out that their tax dollars are funding beach houses they aren't going to be too happy ;)
I don't recall supporting that. The only secrets should be things of national security. Presidents travel plans, names of active CIA agents,etc. Also larger governments are harder to keep transparent. The larger a government the more power it holds over it's citizens. The more power it holds over it's citizens the more that power can be abused. Also there is an obvious problem with letting the people who rule you, teach you. If you wish to change the conversation to me proving that the American system of government education and the agenda of the proponents of that system is NOT in the best interest of a intelligent society then I'll show you some proof.
Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
The way to dominate people, to rule them, is to keep them ignorant - works very well indeed. Budget cuts to education, and the poor can't see past their nose. The middle class pay all the taxes and do all the work. While the rich sit on their piles of cash. You cannot have a society which is ruled by it's richest people, as those people will attempt to maintain the status quo, to stay rich, to stay in power. It is not in their best interests to educate the poor. Or even the ignorant middle classes.
The rich don't rule America. The days of the robber barons are gone, when will people understand this? Not every person who has money is some evil stinking, puppy kicking, baby eating bastard. All this really is just a thought forced into peoples heads. Instead of "Hey, the guy has a nice house and a nice car, I'll work hard to achieve the same success using my skills" we've become "That guy has a nice house and a nice car. He doesn't deserve that. I deserve it more than he does". We should work in competition with one another in order to improve ourselves and our society. Not use force to take from one group to give to another group.
Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
Governments have been spitting out propaganda, creating the idea that the poor can actually be better off. This is a lie, with cuts to education - the poor will continue to live in a vicious cycle. Spending the wealth they have on lottery tickets, cause let's face it - winning the lottery is a simple solution! They're not ignorant just because they ignore the fact that the odds are millions to one against them.
Anybody who plays the lottery instead of saving and investing that money properly deserves to remain dirt poor. Every person who wins the lottery actually ends up worse than they were before they won. They suddenly have all this money and don't know what to do with it then suddenly go out and buy cars, houses, give money away like blow jobs in a crack house. They over spend their money and end up in debt. I agree that cutting education only perpetuates a cycle which is why I advocate private schools with subsidies to schools that take in poor family students or even scholarships for student who maintain high grades. Competition between schools drives up wages. More people become teachers for good wages (as the government currently, suppresses wages). On top of that the competition drives up the education value as parents will send their children to schools that are better than the rest. Different "class styles" would develop instead of this warehousing that they use now.
Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
Power should be taken away from the rich, there should be no "upper class", measures should be taken to limit individual power, because that way there is more of a chance for decisions that serve justice, rather than just serve the wealthy.
The rich aren't "powerful", they don't "rule" us in any way. If the rich were powerful then Bill Gates, Steve Jobs,and Mike Duke could make the government bend to their will and last time I check. Gates got his ass handed to him by the Clinton administration by having his company broken up and Duke's company gets about 1,000 lawsuits a day.
Ambivalent Ecstasy wrote...
Why aren't you rising up against your news channels? They siphon out the propaganda of whichever political party they owe their loyalty to. News should be fair and impartial, wouldn't you agree? Under no circumstances should someone be able to buy political office, nor should it be in their best interests to do so. It is up to those people who are intelligent and fair minded enough to see past their own political views, and want people to be aware of all the options available to them. To change things; are you one of those people?
State control over "information" is even worse than biased information. You criticize governments spewing propaganda, yet socialist (and to some extent communists) advocate state control over all forms of media from internet companies, news, radio, t.v,etc. Something that is worse than the government educating people is the government telling people what is going on. This leads to Doublethink and Newspeak. Government is the problem, not the answer but, it is a necessary evil in order to keep society together. To me a massive government to "help" the people is as big of an oxymoron as shackling a man and calling him free.
If you were here during the presidential race you would have heard me accuse the news companies being biased towards Obama for treating him like a rock star instead of some inexperienced douche that he was. I get my news from everywhere, left and right wing alike. I listen to Rush, Hannity, Boortz, Beck, Bender (I know it seems a little right wing but, it's the only names I can remember at the moment). Fox news, Air America, CNN, Atlanta Journal, USA Today,etc. Amongst all of these I can get a central idea and from there I use my own critical thinking and research to come to my own conclusion. I take nothing at face value and I take time to learn about anything. I've read extensively on socialism, communism (true and faux), Libertarianism (socialist, conservative), Liberalism (Old and new) and a few other forms of government.
Accept nothing as the truth, unless you take the time to know it's the truth.