LustfulAngel Posts
Fruid wrote...
Spoiler:
Now, I want to hear what you think NAFTA stands for. I don't mean to insult you, I just want to show you how politically incorrect you are. Google NAFTA, look at the wikipedia page if you want.
Then explain to me this "NAFTA Global Economy" relationship to China.
*Note: I completely agree with working toward a more balanced relationship with our creditors, but I do not agree with asshats and retards taking the hem to work toward that. Your post was a remark complacent with those asshats and retards.
And (2): "We'll just have to accept the realities of the Global Economy" - where's the issue with that? Are you taking the connotation of that statement to mean we're giving up? In my view the denotation of that statement means the U.S. needs to push for more difficult measures to sustain our lifestyle.
It stands for the North American Free Trade Agreement and what we've learned in the last decade is that this quick-rich scheme only gets globalists rich and leaves the Middle-class to dry:
http://www.epi.org/publication/briefingpapers_nafta01_index/
http://www.epi.org/publication/bp306-class-of-2011/
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0425-30.htm
http://www.asce.org/uploadedFiles/Infrastructure/Report_Card/ASCE%20Regional%20Impacts%20White%20Paper%20FINAL.pdf
http://www.epi.org/publication/briefingpapers_bp147/
We've become a exporting country that gets far less in value than we've exported, resulting in a net job loss, in our crumbling roads and infrastructure and our unemployment rate.
So excuse me if I don't believe in this quick-get-rich scheme.
It wasn't bad at all, I saw nothing racist from that ad. What I saw was the truth, China and other countries like it are more than capable of/and have taken advantage of the Liberal's beloved NAFTA Global Economy. You wanna know something we Americans should be pissed at?
"We'll just have to accept the realities of the Global Economy
That's paraphrasing but it's political talk for "Americans are just going to have to accept low-wage jobs and deal with it Soviet Russia style"
And where's the outrage/protest over such an offensive statement, that we're going to have to bend over our asses for the rest of the world? No where to be found, because sadly enough most Americans are more than willing to accept it/and or they feel they "have" to accept it.
I'm not willing to accept it, and I'll be damned if I live in a country where most of my fellow citizens feel as though they have to accept it either.
President Barack Obama wrote...
"We'll just have to accept the realities of the Global Economy
That's paraphrasing but it's political talk for "Americans are just going to have to accept low-wage jobs and deal with it Soviet Russia style"
And where's the outrage/protest over such an offensive statement, that we're going to have to bend over our asses for the rest of the world? No where to be found, because sadly enough most Americans are more than willing to accept it/and or they feel they "have" to accept it.
I'm not willing to accept it, and I'll be damned if I live in a country where most of my fellow citizens feel as though they have to accept it either.
And you still HAD the nerve to try to connect a Libertarian philosophy to a Communist Philosophy, even more hilarious still is the arrogant proclamation that the more 'sources' we cite(IE: The more scholars we worship), the more legitimate our argument is.
A scholar's statement is no different from mine or yours, the only reason we take the scholar's statement seriously as evidence or testimony is that the scholar is a "Third Party" leaning to neither one of us.
However, there are millions of scholars who have provided countless such testimonys on both sides.
Do you realize then, how fruitless a debate of Scholars is? We can fill this whole forum with scholars and their articles and books if you'd like. In reality however, if we judged our own opinions based off of another person let's just kill individuality all together.
And I have to say that Mark too, is far from an intellectual. The Libertarian/Founding Fathers thesis is not that the Workers union is evil, but that rather all forces are equal in the end. That's a free market and economy.
I'm not even a Libertarian, I don't believe in Universal Freedom as I outlined in my Political Thesis post, people like yourself are precisely the reason I'm not! How can I entrust this country to a bunch of apathetic peasants?
Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican. To MANY Americans a third choice is inconceivable let alone standing for themselves and their rights.
Let me rebute the tyrannical, traitorous Democrat FDR and Liberalism all together, here's a quote from me personally.
"The test of our progress is neither whether we add more abundance to those who are abundant or to provide to those who have not, the test of our progress will be when our society as a whole flourishes."-me
A scholar's statement is no different from mine or yours, the only reason we take the scholar's statement seriously as evidence or testimony is that the scholar is a "Third Party" leaning to neither one of us.
However, there are millions of scholars who have provided countless such testimonys on both sides.
Do you realize then, how fruitless a debate of Scholars is? We can fill this whole forum with scholars and their articles and books if you'd like. In reality however, if we judged our own opinions based off of another person let's just kill individuality all together.
And I have to say that Mark too, is far from an intellectual. The Libertarian/Founding Fathers thesis is not that the Workers union is evil, but that rather all forces are equal in the end. That's a free market and economy.
I'm not even a Libertarian, I don't believe in Universal Freedom as I outlined in my Political Thesis post, people like yourself are precisely the reason I'm not! How can I entrust this country to a bunch of apathetic peasants?
Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican. To MANY Americans a third choice is inconceivable let alone standing for themselves and their rights.
Let me rebute the tyrannical, traitorous Democrat FDR and Liberalism all together, here's a quote from me personally.
"The test of our progress is neither whether we add more abundance to those who are abundant or to provide to those who have not, the test of our progress will be when our society as a whole flourishes."-me
Flaser wrote...
LustfulAngel wrote...
And mind you, that's just in 2002. Can you imagine what the costs are now, some 10 years later?Our system was meant for Americans, by Americans specifically. This dates back to the revolution where the Founders didn't want Britain to slip it's agents inside the country and call them "Americans".
It's actually quite disgusting that there are millions of Americans like Biglundi(Mostly Liberals and clueless neo-cons) who reject the Founding Fathers's thesis, simply because they live in their beloved delusionary world of today.
And on what arrogance can they reject the thesis of our Founders? What have they done so brilliantly that our Fathers didn't? As we discussed above, the Liberal didn't solve the issue of racial inequality, but rather he actually made us all inequal by denying our individual worth so we could be forced together into a borg hive.
He's done nothing for the Middle Class and for the peasants, if only to give them a crutch that doesn't help them walk it just helps them stand up. Through the Liberal's beloved big government, he has solved not a single social issue and has created more poverty and joblessness in it's place.
The greatest delusion in America today, is the Liberal's so called accomplishments with which there are in fact none. But this isn't surprising, why? Because the Founders rejected Liberalism/Democracy/Communism et.al forms of leftism.
What I find disgusting is little Randroits like you trying to recast history as something that it was not. You're blaming all the ails of the country on liberals and the left, when it was the rich that have robbed the coffer, submerged the welfare state, so instead elected officials, business (and the rich) got to manage its apparatus.
On one hand the oligarch preach about the free market above all, ferociously fighting any and all attempts that would regulate them... on the other, they're busy sucking the welfare teat of the state. Billions of dollars go to subsidies each year. By privatizing commodities like water the oligarchs get to reap their profit even on stuff that should be free for all as they are providing no real service... in fact they've been proven to be worse managers than the so called "bloated state", having to be bailed out time and again as they've grown "too big to fail".
If you--
- have never heard of (or don't think much of) Rothbard, Rockwell, Rand, and von Mises
- accept that the FDIC is a pretty good idea
- want a leaner, more efficient government, but don't dream of getting rid of it
...then what I wrote isn't really addressed to you. You're probably more of a small-government conservative; and if you voted against Bush, we can probably get along just fine.
However what Lelouch24, LustfulAngel and Ron Paul and his libertarian friends are promoting are something else entirely. They want to dismantle the state and turn back the clock to the times when capitalism was totally unrestricted.
All around the world this was accompanied by massive exploitation of the workforce, hazardous work environments, little to no consumer protection - read Upton Sinclair's jungle to see what went on in the Meat industry for instance - and massive fraud and corruption in finance that eventually lead to the Great Crash and Great Depression.
Once Reagen and his cronies dismantled and co-opted the last bastions of Roosevelt's legacy the same thing happened. We have a new state religion: The FREE MARKET, that KNOWS BEST, DOES BEST and CAN DO NO WRONG.
Sadly reality differs. The market didn't police itself. The free market paradigm just DIDN'T WORK! It's based of axioms that not only don't exist in real world, but acting on these assumptions have been harmful rather than beneficial. Yet the priests of the market keep preaching and people swallow their lie hook, line & sinker. For all the mathematical trappings, economics is NOT a HARD SCIENCE. It has models and the models work because... well, we assume they do! Even when the models don't work, they're still used.
When will we finally wake up and realize we have been Econned?
"The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." - John Mayard Keynes
Their failings are numerous. Quote from "Econned" written by Yves Smith:
- Overconfidence. Economists have undue faith in their theories and analyses.
- Drunk under the street light syndrome. This is based on the oft-told joke of the drunk who looks for his keys under the street light, where he can see better, rather than where he lost them. Economists restrict their inquiry to where the established, familiar methodologies function well, neglecting areas and information that are troublesome.
- Biases. The desire of economists to turn economics into a hard science has required that certain assumptions be made. But the outcomes depend on the hypotheses. To put it differently, the risk that the assumptions determined the results isn’t treated as seriously as it should be. One reason this is a danger is that economics doesn’t simply rest on the axioms one often hears mentioned, like “perfect competition,” but also deeper assumptions that undergrid some approaches, yet are seldom subject to scrutiny. The result is that the professional ambitions of the discipline in fact produce significant biases and blind spots, the most serious being uncertainty and instability.
- Inappropriately large political role. Economists have come to hold a position that is dangerous in a democracy. Their use of science-like procedures gives them authority that is often unwarranted. Even though they like to cast themselves as benign umpires, they wield far more influence. Moreover, as individuals, they usually have a clear position on the right/left spectrum that is reflected in their recommendations. Power without accountability is a dangerous position for any group to hold in a democracy.
"Already, in 1956, R. G. Lipsey and Kelvin Lancaster published “The General Theory of the Second Best,” also known as the Lipsey-Lancaster theorem. Recall that the situations that economists stipulate in theoretical models are idealized, usually highly so. Consumers are rational and have access to perfect information. There are no transaction costs. Goods of a particular type are identical. Capital moves freely across borders. Using these assumptions, or similar ones, the model is then shown to produce a global optimum. This highly abstract result is then used to argue for making the world correspond as closely to the model as possible, by lowering transaction costs (such as taxes and regulatory costs) and reducing barriers to movements of goods and capital.
But these changes will not produce the fantasy world of the model. Doing business always involves costs, such as negotiating, invoicing, and shipping. Capital never moves without restriction. Buyers and sellers are never all knowing, and products are differentiated. Despite the pretense of science, it is a logical error to assume that steps that realize any of the idealized assumptions individually move the system closer to an optimum state. The Lipsey-Lancaster theorem examines this thinking and proves it to be false.
The article shows, first in narrative form, then with the required formulas, that if all the conditions for the ideal state cannot be met, trying to meet anything less than all of them will not necessarily produce an optimum. Partial fulfillment of equilibrium conditions may be positively harmful, forcing the economy to a less desirable state than it was in before. Thus simple-minded attempts to make the world resemble hypothetical optimizing models could well make matters worse.
In general, outcomes at least as good as any “second-best” reality can result from a wide variety of different policy choices. So, while abusing rarified economic models to grope toward a unique hypothetical ideal can be harmful, many different messy policy choices can lead to improvements over any current, imperfect state. There is no one, true road to economic perfection. Trudging naively along the apparent path set forth by textbook utopians may lead followers badly astray, despite the compelling simplicity of the stories they tell."
Ho, ho,ho. Where to start? Roosevelt, he who violated the terms of office, brought us into WW2 and frankly was the first of the cronyists who would get into the White House?
He who brought us the New Deal, and thereby started the economic bubble that would inflate and deflate for the next several decades into the 2008 crisis? President Johnson brought us the War on Poverty and Social Security and Medicaid. And then the Clintons topped it off with NAFTA. Let's deregulate the trade industry and let's rip off American Consumers in the name of cheaper products! Brilliant Idea!
But why restrict the Liberal failures to America? Ancient Greece notably lost her influence as she became a Democracy. Nearly every Democratic country is a second and third world country and 'America' has now joined the list.
Now, let's try to bring you even more into reality: What you call a Free Market and what transpired under Bush is not a free market. Bush's government was blatantly pro-corporate(remember all of the OIL partners inside his White House). Trickle-down Economics is blatantly pro-corporate and blatantly anti-Middle Class.
One would argue Trickle-Down Economics is actually more to the Left than a Liberal would care to admit. Liberalism has always been supported by corporates since the Big State has always been the ally of Big Corporations.
What a Free Market is, is this: The people have the rights to be hired by the employer of their choice and the people have the rights to exercise their consumer rights. A Free Market would not be dictated by the Stock Broker or by the Economist and his model.
We DO NOT live in a Free Market, your Liberal President isn't even engaging in Free Market policies if Liberalism is so pro-free market. Your President has brought off bankrupt corporations, strengthened the Federal Reserve and then he cries "I can't punish them".
Neither Liberals, nor Neo-Cons have ever been free market. That's the one thing Liberals and Neo-cons have in common: They are Anti-American Parties, against this country and it's people and they con the people every year with a pro-corporate policy tying the people into it, like tying a ribbon on a gift. The ribbon was never originally a part of the gift.
You, the people, Flauser were never a part of a Neo-con or a Liberal's idea of a State, which is wholly self-serving.
Wordmangler2000 wrote...
LustfulAngel wrote...
Love has no logic, nor does the interactions of Human Beings, we do have that one soulmate that fits us like a glove and we're all destined to meet that person eventually in our lives.Even if that person lives on the other side of the world, has no Internet, no telephone? You're confident that somehow fate will bring you together?
You have more faith than I am able to muster, Angel.
It is romantic to think that love is found. It is cynical to believe it is made. The truth must encompass both options: We find someone who is a good fit, and we will ourselves to love.
And yes, it still seems like magic. We believe we are with the Only One. Because we are. But Only Ones, like beautiful diamonds, are a combination of raw materials and polishing.
Or so it seems to me.
I admire you as a full-blown romantic. I'm a romantic myself. (I detest cynicism. It's usually a cheap, unworthy non-answer to serious questions.) But I can't buy in to pure romanticism. I don't believe that capital-F Fate brings those who are destined to be lovers together across time and space. That's a bit too much for me to swallow.
Thanks for writing.
Even if we don't know our soulmate, we will find him/her eventually. Faith moves mountains and it moves obstacles that stand in the way. Despite all of the obstacles standing in their way, Romeo and Juilet found love for each other.
The diamonds, our soul mates are raw materials but to me we don't polish the diamonds. Her beauty lies in her originality, she is not like another girl out there she is an individual in of herself and she shines brighter than anybody else.
Even if another girl would like to say that they're "similar", they don't have the twinkle and the adoration of the Soulmate.
When you find your Soulmate, you'll find that even if your separated, you'll never stop thinking about her.
And mind you, that's just in 2002. Can you imagine what the costs are now, some 10 years later?
Our system was meant for Americans, by Americans specifically. This dates back to the revolution where the Founders didn't want Britain to slip it's agents inside the country and call them "Americans".
It's actually quite disgusting that there are millions of Americans like Biglundi(Mostly Liberals and clueless neo-cons) who reject the Founding Fathers's thesis, simply because they live in their beloved delusionary world of today.
And on what arrogance can they reject the thesis of our Founders? What have they done so brilliantly that our Fathers didn't? As we discussed above, the Liberal didn't solve the issue of racial inequality, but rather he actually made us all inequal by denying our individual worth so we could be forced together into a borg hive.
He's done nothing for the Middle Class and for the peasants, if only to give them a crutch that doesn't help them walk it just helps them stand up. Through the Liberal's beloved big government, he has solved not a single social issue and has created more poverty and joblessness in it's place.
The greatest delusion in America today, is the Liberal's so called accomplishments with which there are in fact none. But this isn't surprising, why? Because the Founders rejected Liberalism/Democracy/Communism et.al forms of leftism.
Our system was meant for Americans, by Americans specifically. This dates back to the revolution where the Founders didn't want Britain to slip it's agents inside the country and call them "Americans".
It's actually quite disgusting that there are millions of Americans like Biglundi(Mostly Liberals and clueless neo-cons) who reject the Founding Fathers's thesis, simply because they live in their beloved delusionary world of today.
And on what arrogance can they reject the thesis of our Founders? What have they done so brilliantly that our Fathers didn't? As we discussed above, the Liberal didn't solve the issue of racial inequality, but rather he actually made us all inequal by denying our individual worth so we could be forced together into a borg hive.
He's done nothing for the Middle Class and for the peasants, if only to give them a crutch that doesn't help them walk it just helps them stand up. Through the Liberal's beloved big government, he has solved not a single social issue and has created more poverty and joblessness in it's place.
The greatest delusion in America today, is the Liberal's so called accomplishments with which there are in fact none. But this isn't surprising, why? Because the Founders rejected Liberalism/Democracy/Communism et.al forms of leftism.
Wordmangler2000 wrote...
LustfulAngel wrote...
I really do believe in the concept of a Soulmate and that there's a Soulmate for all of us.Do you believe each of us has precisely one potential soulmate?
If so...what are the odds, given such a large earth, with so many inhabitants, that we will ever meet such a person?
If not...then is your one soulmate interchangeable with another, a person whose love you did not cultivate?
It must be one or the other.
Love has no logic, nor does the interactions of Human Beings, we do have that one soulmate that fits us like a glove and we're all destined to meet that person eventually in our lives.
What being in love means, for me it means being with somebody who truly embodied everything that you needed from a person, it means being able to share the good times and the bad times and it means being able to spiritually feel the other's needs and wants in life and in bed.
I really do believe in the concept of a Soulmate and that there's a Soulmate for all of us.
I really do believe in the concept of a Soulmate and that there's a Soulmate for all of us.
Responses to Big Lundi's post:
Have you ever heard of the 3/5ths Compromise rule? You didn't, okay so the Founding Fathers wanted to politically end Slavery. The South didn't like it due to loss of economic revenue at the time. And so they came up with the 3/5ths compromise. It was this incident, that made it clear to the Founding Fathers that there wasn't a Political Solution to Slavery, just as there isn't a Political/Military solution to Al-Qaeda.
One can't trample upon rights, if rights are asserted. The Civil Rights revolution was made wholly possible in the first place because the African-Americans asserted their rights and the American Public for the first time got to hear this out in the open. Government cannot prevent trampling of other's rights, because in order to do so it must trample upon another's right. All government can do is govern, to guide and to set a standard that society must uphold and must follow.
Big Lundi, you as the citizen of this country have the responsibility of being a responsible citizen in your community, as does every other citizen have this responsibility. When the citizens of the country take hold of this responsibility, government is most effective.
A government, a country is only as strong as it's people and right now, we are weak as a country. Even, including myself. We are weak.
Not no more laws, but rather that laws cannot enforce a social norm. The Liberal wholly doesn't understand this concept; but government cannot enforce a norm. I could take the position of upholding a social norm, but then my government is no longer a beneficial government. There isn't a free market or a free flow of information.
Liberalism is the death to all societies. Liberalist ideas, are the ones that are the most dangerous and radical ones. And it is because of Liberal Rule in America, that since the second world war we have declined
Because it's fundamentally lying to ourselves! The African-American holds a culture and a way of life that's utterly different from the Caucasian-American. This isn't wrong or illegal or immoral but rather a fact of Nature. And all Nations, without exception are molded by their social and ethnic origins.
Today in America, by assimilating the Caucasian-American and thereby America's European-English traditions we are left with a borg hive that has no identity and is filled with nothing but the liberal's "racial tolerance". Tolerated, perhaps. Openly engaged and in a society? Far from it. As I said earlier, it's a delusion and nothing more.
As I said, we're lying to ourselves. To be sure, yes DNA has universal similarities surrounding all races but why don't you visit a country in Asia and then a country in Africa. Fundamentally different, aren't they? We are fundamentally different beings by Nature's Law, it's our differences that allow for our evolution as a species. The least we can do/should do is respect our differences. The borg hive doesn't allow us to respect our differences. We "tolerate" them, tolerance and respect are two different things.
Because imagine if we were Americans massively flooding the gates to Mexico demanding the Mexicans to speak English? We'd be massively immigrated OUT of the country. All nations have a natural ethnic identity and a universal language. The Japanese speak Japanese, the Germans speak German. We might be the only nation where Americans are more than willing to allow another language to invade our homeland.
English itself is a universal language, easy to comprehend and if our minorities have true investment in America they should invest the time to learn English. Just as we'd invest the time to learn a foreign language when visiting a foreign country.
The Japanese have invested time to learn english, but they understand that first and foremost it's a secondary language. Since the Japanese are the majority in their homeland.
English must become the de-facto National Language for the homeland to reattain it's ethnic values and it's ethnic strength in the world community.
They can speak their native tongue, when surrounding their fellow minorities. But give or take, we're an english country with englishmen born in America. Even African-Americans speak mostly english rather than an African-esque language.
Minorities have the social responsibility and understanding to blend themselves in with the homeland, lest there isn't a country left.
It's been several decades since the passing of the Civil Rights Act, and these poor neighborhoods otherwise called ghetto's still exist. And the term 'impossible tests for black people to complete to prove they're 'literate' is so vague, what constructs as an impossible test? Furthermore, you said 'for black people' in that context my question now becomes: Would it be possible for Whites/Caucasians to pass the same test?
If you answer yes to this question, then check this out: it's wholly possible for the Black/African-American(or insert minority group here) to also pass that same test. Let's stay within the realms of reality: You cannot claim Universal Equality and then say that there isn't Universal Equality. If I can pass said test, so can he/she.
You might say that the African-American is at a disadvantage, but then I submit to you: I'm a Caucasian-American, having lived through the ghetto my entire life. I've rose myself up from nothingness to an intellectual. Was there something in my genetic pool? No, we both agree that DNA has several universal qualities.
The difference, was that I was determined not to take no for an answer! With Affirmative Action, and with groups like the NCAAP and the Southern Poverty Law Center it is wholly possible for African-Americans and other minorities to cry out "See, we're being discriminated."
Minorities that are discriminated, seek discrimination. They seek discrimination and then they cry foul. And the Liberal, in his political ignorance feels the need to respond to said cry and make it easier for the self-persecuting minority.
You didn't help this minority though, Big Lundi. All you've done is give him a bigger cushion and he'll continue to ask for one, and you the guillble Liberal will continue to give him one.
That's the flaw in Social Welfare and other programs, it doesn't help people to step back up. It doesn't bring them closer to a job, you have to actually be disabled, etc before you can access job centers and other programs to help you get a job! But if you're just a poor guy on Welfare? No assistance to you, just stay on Welfare like a good meager broke American.
The Liberal is an anti-thesis to America, he's against the free market enterprise, he is against a free-social system. The Liberal would like to believe his government can fix all of his problems for him and henceforth no none need put forth any effort.
But anything done without effort will never be sustained, the Liberal cannot comprehend this. No matter how much evidence to the contrary and no bigger evidence is evident than the downfall of America.
Have you ever heard of the 3/5ths Compromise rule? You didn't, okay so the Founding Fathers wanted to politically end Slavery. The South didn't like it due to loss of economic revenue at the time. And so they came up with the 3/5ths compromise. It was this incident, that made it clear to the Founding Fathers that there wasn't a Political Solution to Slavery, just as there isn't a Political/Military solution to Al-Qaeda.
One can't trample upon rights, if rights are asserted. The Civil Rights revolution was made wholly possible in the first place because the African-Americans asserted their rights and the American Public for the first time got to hear this out in the open. Government cannot prevent trampling of other's rights, because in order to do so it must trample upon another's right. All government can do is govern, to guide and to set a standard that society must uphold and must follow.
Big Lundi, you as the citizen of this country have the responsibility of being a responsible citizen in your community, as does every other citizen have this responsibility. When the citizens of the country take hold of this responsibility, government is most effective.
A government, a country is only as strong as it's people and right now, we are weak as a country. Even, including myself. We are weak.
Not no more laws, but rather that laws cannot enforce a social norm. The Liberal wholly doesn't understand this concept; but government cannot enforce a norm. I could take the position of upholding a social norm, but then my government is no longer a beneficial government. There isn't a free market or a free flow of information.
Liberalism is the death to all societies. Liberalist ideas, are the ones that are the most dangerous and radical ones. And it is because of Liberal Rule in America, that since the second world war we have declined
Because it's fundamentally lying to ourselves! The African-American holds a culture and a way of life that's utterly different from the Caucasian-American. This isn't wrong or illegal or immoral but rather a fact of Nature. And all Nations, without exception are molded by their social and ethnic origins.
Today in America, by assimilating the Caucasian-American and thereby America's European-English traditions we are left with a borg hive that has no identity and is filled with nothing but the liberal's "racial tolerance". Tolerated, perhaps. Openly engaged and in a society? Far from it. As I said earlier, it's a delusion and nothing more.
As I said, we're lying to ourselves. To be sure, yes DNA has universal similarities surrounding all races but why don't you visit a country in Asia and then a country in Africa. Fundamentally different, aren't they? We are fundamentally different beings by Nature's Law, it's our differences that allow for our evolution as a species. The least we can do/should do is respect our differences. The borg hive doesn't allow us to respect our differences. We "tolerate" them, tolerance and respect are two different things.
Because imagine if we were Americans massively flooding the gates to Mexico demanding the Mexicans to speak English? We'd be massively immigrated OUT of the country. All nations have a natural ethnic identity and a universal language. The Japanese speak Japanese, the Germans speak German. We might be the only nation where Americans are more than willing to allow another language to invade our homeland.
English itself is a universal language, easy to comprehend and if our minorities have true investment in America they should invest the time to learn English. Just as we'd invest the time to learn a foreign language when visiting a foreign country.
The Japanese have invested time to learn english, but they understand that first and foremost it's a secondary language. Since the Japanese are the majority in their homeland.
English must become the de-facto National Language for the homeland to reattain it's ethnic values and it's ethnic strength in the world community.
They can speak their native tongue, when surrounding their fellow minorities. But give or take, we're an english country with englishmen born in America. Even African-Americans speak mostly english rather than an African-esque language.
Minorities have the social responsibility and understanding to blend themselves in with the homeland, lest there isn't a country left.
It's been several decades since the passing of the Civil Rights Act, and these poor neighborhoods otherwise called ghetto's still exist. And the term 'impossible tests for black people to complete to prove they're 'literate' is so vague, what constructs as an impossible test? Furthermore, you said 'for black people' in that context my question now becomes: Would it be possible for Whites/Caucasians to pass the same test?
If you answer yes to this question, then check this out: it's wholly possible for the Black/African-American(or insert minority group here) to also pass that same test. Let's stay within the realms of reality: You cannot claim Universal Equality and then say that there isn't Universal Equality. If I can pass said test, so can he/she.
You might say that the African-American is at a disadvantage, but then I submit to you: I'm a Caucasian-American, having lived through the ghetto my entire life. I've rose myself up from nothingness to an intellectual. Was there something in my genetic pool? No, we both agree that DNA has several universal qualities.
The difference, was that I was determined not to take no for an answer! With Affirmative Action, and with groups like the NCAAP and the Southern Poverty Law Center it is wholly possible for African-Americans and other minorities to cry out "See, we're being discriminated."
Minorities that are discriminated, seek discrimination. They seek discrimination and then they cry foul. And the Liberal, in his political ignorance feels the need to respond to said cry and make it easier for the self-persecuting minority.
You didn't help this minority though, Big Lundi. All you've done is give him a bigger cushion and he'll continue to ask for one, and you the guillble Liberal will continue to give him one.
That's the flaw in Social Welfare and other programs, it doesn't help people to step back up. It doesn't bring them closer to a job, you have to actually be disabled, etc before you can access job centers and other programs to help you get a job! But if you're just a poor guy on Welfare? No assistance to you, just stay on Welfare like a good meager broke American.
The Liberal is an anti-thesis to America, he's against the free market enterprise, he is against a free-social system. The Liberal would like to believe his government can fix all of his problems for him and henceforth no none need put forth any effort.
But anything done without effort will never be sustained, the Liberal cannot comprehend this. No matter how much evidence to the contrary and no bigger evidence is evident than the downfall of America.
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Tsurayu wrote...
Ah, you're as bad as the mass media. Spewing out half-truths as if you never even bothered to read the documents that you so dutifully cited, or perhaps you didn't even bother to come up with your own thought, but just joined the bandwagon. I don't even have to go further than your first point. You put it so blankly that people are inclined to read into the situation as "Oh God! Ron Paul is a racist!" When all he actually said was that he felt that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a poor piece of legislation because it gave the federal government too much power over the hiring policies of individual companies with the pretense that it was to ensure racial equality. He never said he had a problem with that, but has a problem with the fact that the act has become the fore-bearer for other bills that have allowed the federal government to have mandate over the hiring policies in the United States beyond what is socially or economically necessary. Consider how many business have to keep track of their ratio of male-to-female employees, keep in mind why so many applications ask you for your race. Ever wondered why something so irrelevant matters? Yeah, because of bills that have been inspired by the poor wording of that act.
Besides, he even stated that American has made great strides in race quality, but that he feels that it shouldn't be contributed to the Civil Rights Act, and I'd have to agree.
I might talk about the others later, but your first argument is so pathetic in it's attempt, I don't even want to bother. Should I have to facepalm that many times, with that level of ferocity, I might give myself a concussion.
Frankly, the bigoted one is you.
Big Lundi stated that Ron Paul wants to repeal the civil rights act... which is true. He never went into detail whether this was a good or bad idea, or why Ron Paul thinks it should be repealed.
However what he stated is true.
Ron Paul *does* want to repeal the Act.
You by comparison have immediately started an Ad-Hominem attack on Big Lundi instead trying to refute his claims or dispute them. You didn't refute his actual claim, instead you tried to skew things to show him in a bad light.
If you've merely sticked to disputing his claim that the repeal of the Civil Rights Act equals Ron Paul being a racist then your post would have been civil and would've stood as a piece of solid rhetoric. Since you didn't, it doesn't.
Do you want to know the reason why Ron Paul would repeal the Civil Rights Act? The same reason the Founding Fathers would have never approved of the Act in the first place. And the Fathers did want slavery/segregation and racial inequality to end.
However, it was of the Fathers firm belief that any social changes can only come from the whims of the people and not through legislation or through the sword. Simply put, Racial relations are a social matter and can only be evolved through social understanding and trust.
Anything that you force on a society or a civilization, whether the intentions are good or bad is always rejected and at best, apathetically followed. So, we say that racial relations have improved in America.
By creating a borg hive? By not acknowledging the cultural differences in the many minorities in America and by casting aside our European descent? This, is racial equality? No, it's the opposite. It's inequality for all, equality for none.
An excellent example is "press 1 for spanish, press 2 for English", last I checked this is an english speaking country. That's with no disrespect to the Spanish people or their origins but if they want spanish-speakers they should go to Mexico and actually improve the quality of life in Mexico.
The only way that America, the "cultural melting pot" can truly achieve racial equality is a racial/national identity that all cultures can agree to. Or in short, Americanism. Americanism cannot be achieved through a piece of legislation, it has not been achieved with the Civil Rights Act or with Affirmative Action.
All that the Liberals have achieved with those pieces of legislation and ideas is the illusion of equality, real equality can only be achieved through a social understanding and through social responsibilities.
So for example, if the African-American community were to take heed at the many African-American leaders in the country today and if they were to strive for that success there is nothing stopping them, not any legislation and not the Ku Klux Klan.
The African-American who took charge of his own destiny and went on to prosper in America is accepted as an American. The same is true for the Indian-American, the Hindu-American, the Japanese-American, etc.
THIS is racial equality, where the people of the nation come together in mutual interests and have a National Identity. This is Americanism and it cannot be created through legislation or through force.
**He blushed as she hugged him and he hugged her back.** Sighing and he's glad that he got that out of the way but now a new thought springs up in his mind. Things like this never last, and he doesn't want to hurt Yumiko-chan. He noticed he dropped the "nee" and is now truly referring to her as a woman.
"Yeah, it is. It's like I have a different personality, just like you. Except rather than from a traumatic event it just so happened to be something I was born with. This switch of mine is every bit of my real personality as the me you see right now."
"But you understand don't you Yumiko-Chan? That people don't accept you, or me. I think that's why we were invited to the Survival Game. It's like our own world now and those boring people don't matter" He smiled psychopathically and his eyes began to go in a trance as his psychotic side embraces being next to someone just like him.
"Yeah, it is. It's like I have a different personality, just like you. Except rather than from a traumatic event it just so happened to be something I was born with. This switch of mine is every bit of my real personality as the me you see right now."
"But you understand don't you Yumiko-Chan? That people don't accept you, or me. I think that's why we were invited to the Survival Game. It's like our own world now and those boring people don't matter" He smiled psychopathically and his eyes began to go in a trance as his psychotic side embraces being next to someone just like him.
His face blushed an even deeper red as she kissed him on the lips. What...? What's happening? My head suddenly feels dizzy. I wasn't even sure of how to go about these feelings for Yumiko-chan or if I should even tell her. But now....now it feels just right to tell her. He returned the kiss softly and as she said that about him he also laughed.
"Yumiko-chan...I love you". There, he finally admitted the most irrational thing that ever came into his head. The girl's 9 years younger than him, and heck she tried to kill him. But to be fair, he thought he also tried to kill her. It was in that moment of ectasy yesterday that aroused these feelings in him.
"I don't know why, but I can't see Yumiko-chan as a little child. You're so refined for your age it's unbelievable." He went on "And, you're the first person to ever accept my psychopathic side." He smiled.
"Yumiko-chan...I love you". There, he finally admitted the most irrational thing that ever came into his head. The girl's 9 years younger than him, and heck she tried to kill him. But to be fair, he thought he also tried to kill her. It was in that moment of ectasy yesterday that aroused these feelings in him.
"I don't know why, but I can't see Yumiko-chan as a little child. You're so refined for your age it's unbelievable." He went on "And, you're the first person to ever accept my psychopathic side." He smiled.
He laughed and sighed and blushed at the same time I never thought Yumiko-chan would worry that much about me Katsuro thought and as she perked up and beckoned to him, his heart started beating doki doki and it got on his nerves and yet excited him at the same time. "What is it, Yumiko-chan?" He asked as he leaned down to her head so she could whisper in his ear.
**As Yumiko -chan winked and smiled, he blushed a bright red again and he took the bag and he felt flattered and humbled** "You didn't have to do that for me" Katsuro said, trying to sound and look like the big responsible brother but he knew he was failing miserably."
"Did your Diary tell you the reason I'm upset, Yumiko-chan?" He thought that since they were alone and in private his hope was that even an 8 year old can bitchslap this stupidity out of him. Worse however, is if this got the authorities involved or something. Why is a 17 year old intellectual like me, so obsessed with an 8 year old kid!? Katsuro cried out in his mind, trying to fight against these irrational feelings.
"Did your Diary tell you the reason I'm upset, Yumiko-chan?" He thought that since they were alone and in private his hope was that even an 8 year old can bitchslap this stupidity out of him. Worse however, is if this got the authorities involved or something. Why is a 17 year old intellectual like me, so obsessed with an 8 year old kid!? Katsuro cried out in his mind, trying to fight against these irrational feelings.
A Private message? For me from Mom? Katsuro thought, he then shook his head. In the first place, while he suggested Yumiko-chan playing with his sister, they didn't really know anything about Yumiko-chan and she shouldn't know anything about his house. But what is this private message? More and more, he was wishing he had his suitcase. Sure, they made a promise and he wanted to keep it with all of his heart. But did Yumiko Nee-chan want to keep it? As a fellow psychopath, he knew. That what we agree to one day we can easily reverse our decision the next if we wanted.
His nervousness showed as a drop of sweat ran down his face as he held Yumiko-chan's arm slightly. "If you don't mind sensei, I'll take my little sister out to the football field to talk." We had gotten permission and we had walked to the football field where it was just me and Yumiko-chan.
"What's up, Yumiko-chan?", he was surprised with how calm his voice sounded given how worried he was on the inside.
His nervousness showed as a drop of sweat ran down his face as he held Yumiko-chan's arm slightly. "If you don't mind sensei, I'll take my little sister out to the football field to talk." We had gotten permission and we had walked to the football field where it was just me and Yumiko-chan.
"What's up, Yumiko-chan?", he was surprised with how calm his voice sounded given how worried he was on the inside.
Principal: "Katsuro Kaneko, you have an important message from your mother " Important Message? He opened up his Computer Diary to try and make sense of what the hell was happening, mother didn't have anything urgent happening did she? His Diary told him that the best solution would be to go to the principal's office Sometimes I wish my diary could do more than tell me the answers to my problems Katsuro exclaimed in his mind as he jolted up and he asked the teacher for a hall pass. "But of course, Katsuro-kun" the teacher replied and Katsuro left the classroom, slightly wary of the fact that he couldn't carry his suitcase out of class.
It's okay, right? It's nothing to worry about. Then as he walked through the principal's office, he saw her...The little girl that captivated him, that was more of a woman than her age suggested and the girl that deserved in his mind all of the affection a young maiden needs in life.
"Yumiko....chan?" He stuttered, his face flushing a bright red as he looked at her. Because of her personality he could see both a child and a woman, no matter how illogical and stupid it is. Then, realizing the gravity of the situation he hugged her protectively "Are you okay? Didn't you say you couldn't go out of your house?"
It's okay, right? It's nothing to worry about. Then as he walked through the principal's office, he saw her...The little girl that captivated him, that was more of a woman than her age suggested and the girl that deserved in his mind all of the affection a young maiden needs in life.
"Yumiko....chan?" He stuttered, his face flushing a bright red as he looked at her. Because of her personality he could see both a child and a woman, no matter how illogical and stupid it is. Then, realizing the gravity of the situation he hugged her protectively "Are you okay? Didn't you say you couldn't go out of your house?"
2-1-2012 7:45 A.M. Kitchen(Breakfast)
Today they were having curry for breakfast, curry was one of Katsuro's least favorites ontop of that it's a heavy dish anyway you slice it. "I know it's not your favorite dish, but today is Lili's day for her breakfast." His mother lectured as he ate the curry, slowly and surely.
"Gomen nasai, Onii-chan." Hearing his sister say that made him think about Yumiko-chan again and how Yumiko-chan said that because of her PTSD, she doesn't get to go out often. 'come to think of it, when's the last time Yumiko-chan had a true girl friend she could talk to? Katsuro questioned to himself as he finished the meal.
"Lili-chan", Katsuro called out to his sister. "Yes?" She replied back. "Would you like to make a new friend?" "A new friend? Who?" She called out all excited. "New friend", "new friend", "new friend!"
"Her name is Yumiko-chan, she's a real sweet girl like you. But Yumiko-chan's been alone for a long time. I just made friends with Yumiko-chan yesterday, and I think she'd like another friend, a fellow girl friend." '
"If Yumiko-chan's been alone, then she'd like some toys." Lili-chan called out and went into her room and Katsuro smiled. Lili isn't like him, a stuck up intellectual genius with a psychotic side. She's purely sweet and wonderful and kind. The Survival Game though, took him away from this life.
He'll have to be wary of Yumiko-chan eventually. Hopefully they could fulfill their promise and only fight when it's just the two of them. Katsuro smiled though. For now, the Game hasn't started yet and Yumiko-chan needs love and affection and I want to give her both.
Lili: "So, you'll bring Yumiko-chan over?" He thought about it, Yumiko-chan said that if she left her house, her PTSD would trigger. "Most likely, we'll be going over to Yumiko-chan's." Katsuro answered back.
He then left the house and he began walking over to the Academy, making it inside the school by 8:30 A.M.
Today they were having curry for breakfast, curry was one of Katsuro's least favorites ontop of that it's a heavy dish anyway you slice it. "I know it's not your favorite dish, but today is Lili's day for her breakfast." His mother lectured as he ate the curry, slowly and surely.
"Gomen nasai, Onii-chan." Hearing his sister say that made him think about Yumiko-chan again and how Yumiko-chan said that because of her PTSD, she doesn't get to go out often. 'come to think of it, when's the last time Yumiko-chan had a true girl friend she could talk to? Katsuro questioned to himself as he finished the meal.
"Lili-chan", Katsuro called out to his sister. "Yes?" She replied back. "Would you like to make a new friend?" "A new friend? Who?" She called out all excited. "New friend", "new friend", "new friend!"
"Her name is Yumiko-chan, she's a real sweet girl like you. But Yumiko-chan's been alone for a long time. I just made friends with Yumiko-chan yesterday, and I think she'd like another friend, a fellow girl friend." '
"If Yumiko-chan's been alone, then she'd like some toys." Lili-chan called out and went into her room and Katsuro smiled. Lili isn't like him, a stuck up intellectual genius with a psychotic side. She's purely sweet and wonderful and kind. The Survival Game though, took him away from this life.
He'll have to be wary of Yumiko-chan eventually. Hopefully they could fulfill their promise and only fight when it's just the two of them. Katsuro smiled though. For now, the Game hasn't started yet and Yumiko-chan needs love and affection and I want to give her both.
Lili: "So, you'll bring Yumiko-chan over?" He thought about it, Yumiko-chan said that if she left her house, her PTSD would trigger. "Most likely, we'll be going over to Yumiko-chan's." Katsuro answered back.
He then left the house and he began walking over to the Academy, making it inside the school by 8:30 A.M.
2/1/2012 7:00 A.M Tokyo, Japan(Home)--
Katsuro woke up and he followed his daily routine of kissing his black flower and admiring his room, his bed's red sheets and black blanket. "Darkness will protect me, it'll love me." Katsuro affirmed to himself and he smiled as he replied back to himself "And I'll protect and love Darkness."
Katsuro then got in the shower and he turned the nozzle as the Shower head began dosing him with hot water as he continued to think back to yesterday and how much fun he and Yumiko-neechan had together. "When have I ever had fun like that when my trigger is switched?" He asked himself. "If anyone else knew I had a trigger like that, I'd go in a mental hospital for 'observation' or rather my death. Since staying in a virtual prison isn't really living."
'Yes, it'd be living death. Perhaps that's why we were both chosen for the Survival Game. Since neither of us can live in the real world, we can live in our world that's secluded to ourselves to fulfill our fantasies and our dark desires.' Katsuro thought about himself and Yumiko nee-chan, a thought that became particularly nagging at him. It wasn't just because she had the same kind of switch he had, but because of her eloquence as a woman. It's wrong, but sometimes fate has a weird way of bringing certain people together.
He got dressed in a black suit with blue ties and matching dress shoes as he shook his head. "It's still crazy, there's no way that Yumiko nee-chan could look at you in the same way. Besides the fact that you're 9 years her senior, her dream and focus is on her older brother. She doesn't look at you in the same light, Katsuro-kun." Katsuro began talking to himself in the third person.
He tried distracting his thoughts by logging onto his computer and opening up some hacking and phishing programs and he had fun, this was his second adventure other than the Survival Game. The thought of just annoying fellow hackers and competing with them. Of course, he could lose too but it doesn't happen often.
"Katsuro-chan, breakfast is ready!" His mother called out and he frowned, turning back on his security system and he took out his suitcase with his bombs and he got to work on making adjustments for his bombs, changing the wires and even adding a fourth wire to the bombs. Making them more complicated for his opponents and especially for Yumiko-neechan.
"I'll be finished by tommorrow morning, just in time for the Survival Game." He remarked to himself and wiped some sweat. Those adjustments will help, but it still doesn't solve the question of what he can do against those who fight in close range combat. Yumiko-neechan still has the upperhand, he thought. Then he got a bright idea.
"If I can't fight in close range combat, I'll just keep my opponents away from me." And he started ordering some dynamite explosives and firecrackers. "These will help keep those who want to harm Katsuro-kun away." He clicked on one-day shipping even though it'll cost even more.
"KATSURO-CHAN!" His mother screamed and he got out of his psychotic trance "Hai~" He called out sweetly and he walked out of his room with his heavily armed suitcase and walked to the kitchen.
Katsuro woke up and he followed his daily routine of kissing his black flower and admiring his room, his bed's red sheets and black blanket. "Darkness will protect me, it'll love me." Katsuro affirmed to himself and he smiled as he replied back to himself "And I'll protect and love Darkness."
Katsuro then got in the shower and he turned the nozzle as the Shower head began dosing him with hot water as he continued to think back to yesterday and how much fun he and Yumiko-neechan had together. "When have I ever had fun like that when my trigger is switched?" He asked himself. "If anyone else knew I had a trigger like that, I'd go in a mental hospital for 'observation' or rather my death. Since staying in a virtual prison isn't really living."
'Yes, it'd be living death. Perhaps that's why we were both chosen for the Survival Game. Since neither of us can live in the real world, we can live in our world that's secluded to ourselves to fulfill our fantasies and our dark desires.' Katsuro thought about himself and Yumiko nee-chan, a thought that became particularly nagging at him. It wasn't just because she had the same kind of switch he had, but because of her eloquence as a woman. It's wrong, but sometimes fate has a weird way of bringing certain people together.
He got dressed in a black suit with blue ties and matching dress shoes as he shook his head. "It's still crazy, there's no way that Yumiko nee-chan could look at you in the same way. Besides the fact that you're 9 years her senior, her dream and focus is on her older brother. She doesn't look at you in the same light, Katsuro-kun." Katsuro began talking to himself in the third person.
He tried distracting his thoughts by logging onto his computer and opening up some hacking and phishing programs and he had fun, this was his second adventure other than the Survival Game. The thought of just annoying fellow hackers and competing with them. Of course, he could lose too but it doesn't happen often.
"Katsuro-chan, breakfast is ready!" His mother called out and he frowned, turning back on his security system and he took out his suitcase with his bombs and he got to work on making adjustments for his bombs, changing the wires and even adding a fourth wire to the bombs. Making them more complicated for his opponents and especially for Yumiko-neechan.
"I'll be finished by tommorrow morning, just in time for the Survival Game." He remarked to himself and wiped some sweat. Those adjustments will help, but it still doesn't solve the question of what he can do against those who fight in close range combat. Yumiko-neechan still has the upperhand, he thought. Then he got a bright idea.
"If I can't fight in close range combat, I'll just keep my opponents away from me." And he started ordering some dynamite explosives and firecrackers. "These will help keep those who want to harm Katsuro-kun away." He clicked on one-day shipping even though it'll cost even more.
"KATSURO-CHAN!" His mother screamed and he got out of his psychotic trance "Hai~" He called out sweetly and he walked out of his room with his heavily armed suitcase and walked to the kitchen.