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I can't comment anymore. When I do reply, type a message, then post, it just refreshes the page.
I tried it logging out and in again, same issue. Android with Chrome.
I tried it logging out and in again, same issue. Android with Chrome.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
I would want the second vol of Domin-8...Wait! There is a second vol of Domin-8? I never saw that and I was hardcore into Eros Comix. I know the author did a yuri release, but my understanding is that it had nothing to do with Domin-8.
Also would love a book from Yuzuha:
https://www.fakku.net/artists/yuzuha
Or 212:
https://www.fakku.net/artists/212
Or Okumoto Yuta:
https://www.fakku.net/artists/okumoto-yuta
Or Reco:
https://www.fakku.net/artists/reco
Or Yosuke:
https://www.fakku.net/artists/yosuke
They all have so many good chapters!
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dogrunes wrote...
Hey everyone! We're finally nearing the end of the book in terms of previews! This time, we got some cows. More specifically, patriotic cows. How nice.Awesome! My all time favorite cow story is from Pink Sniper. It's hilarious.
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luckydog001 wrote...
“Don't worry, we have some plans to bring back the Saitom Box!”No time indication was given.
You got me excited, but nothing in the store. Then I read the rest of your post...
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Brittany wrote...
On another note, I love this book ;) That looks good! Which book is it?
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Actually there might not be a right answer for this book.You make a good point and it is an interesting point on the NTR tag. I had assumed that particular chapter was tagged NTR, because on it's own, it fits the NTR definition (bad guy gets the girl, blah, blah, blah).
I agree that trying to reduce a whole story down to a few tag is always troublesome, but I feel like this book is not tagged appropriately. In the strongest terms, I do not belive the 'vanila' tag can be applied to a book that contains rape, kidnapping, and drugging. It just doesn't apply. Even if there is a happy ending (the last chapter could certainly be tagged vanilla on it's own).
I know your intent isn't to trick someone into purchasing this book, but I feel like you have to trust the individual here. If they feel that they won't enjoy owning a book with rape, then trust them. It is an overreach to try and get people to 'give the book a chance'. At a minium, the chapter where the woman was knocked out, tied up, and raped should have the 'forced' tag:
let-your-smile-bloom-chapter-3
Instead it is tagged as 'NTR' and 'Bondage', which is grossley inaccurate. This isn't consensual play by any means. Chapter 4 is the car rape scene, where she is literally yelling 'no' and 'stop' throughout the encounter, until she is saved. Again, no 'forced' tag. Chapter 2, I can see some argument for not having a 'forced' tag, but since there isn't a blackmail/coerced tag, it is the closest we have.
This isn't about judging those who enjoy rape stories, and if the artist doesn't want their work seen in that light, they can exclude those elements from their work. Akinosora has other work on this site without rape, so it isn't a standard thing they always do. In fact, I think the art is amazing and was disappointed to discover the content, because it is not for me. Publish some non-rape work by Akinosora and I will buy it, in a heartbeat.
My point is that this book should be tagged correctly and due to various factors (Fakku dissent, artist wishes) it is not. Let readers make their own choices about what content to consume, but provide them with accurate information.
A last point, is also the tagging on the books as a whole is confusing, for example:
let-your-smile-bloom-english
It isn't a story, it is the start of the book (placeholder?), so those tags seem to apply to the book. But are they an aggragate of all tags (they aren't) or do the tags represent the overall theme of the book? Currently, they seem to be random tags pulled from various chapters. One book (I want to say a Napata one), has a stockings tag for the book level, even though only one story has stockings. For me at least, there is confusion about what the tags at the start of a book are supposed to communicate.
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Brittany wrote...
GamerNovel wrote...
...I almost bought it , until I realized it has NTR.Kind of false advertisement since the Artist does not want it in the tags.
The reason it doesn't have NTR listed as a tag is a little tricky. If you asked me personally, even without the artists request, I would say this book is not NTR at all.
Always good to see background information. I agree with GamerNovel, this book seems like an NTR work and if it doesn't fit a technical definition, it would be nice to see some new tags to call it out, or even just use of existing tags.
In two of the chapters, the woman is forced (or coerced at a minimuim) into unwanted sex (if I recall, she is actually yelling out "no" throughout the scene). This falls into rape by most reasonable definitions. But the chapters are not tagged as 'forced' nor is there any indication that it has non-consensual content. This clearly makes it not 'vanilla', and having the 'vanilla' tag just makes it confusing for people who do want actual vanilla content.
I see several people besides myself who have issue with the tagging on this, so it isn't just one person. I feel like this is important because it wastes time and money for everyone. Luckily, I read the digital before the book was mailed to me, but if it had been sent, I would have returned it, which is time and money that didn't have to be wasted. As it is, having to refund my money cost Fakku processing fees and took my time, so time and money were still wasted, just not as much.
This book has a chapter that is in fact tagged as NTR. So, this would seem to be an NTR book for Fakku as well, regardless of what is said by Brittany and Jacob. I think the artist can create the work, but that Fakku should retain integrity and tag it how the community sees the book, or better yet, turn tagging of stories over to the community.
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gonya wrote...
before and after...That is awesome! I can really see a difference. Very excited for this release, so many puns. I am bound by the excitement.
gonya wrote...
... how I did the first draft for the jacket title logo...My screen is tiny, but what program is that? Photoshop?
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This looks hot!
Just checked the author's stories on Fakku, so many favorites, this is an instant buy for me.
Just checked the author's stories on Fakku, so many favorites, this is an instant buy for me.
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Romana wrote...
I love little exposes like this. As always, these are rought drafts of the final book and may be subject to change come publication.Thanks for posting this, looking forward to the book!
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Tsujoi wrote...
I'm not sure if there's a better way of handling digital codes for purchases at conventions, but we're open to ideas!Back in the day, you had to mail in proofs of purchase for cereal prizes.
Seems like a photo of the receipt might be more reliable than the photo of the book, I assume the receipt would provide some unique info like time and date of purchase that might prevent people from just taking a photo of a friend's book.
Otherwise, it would have to be uniquely generated OEM code, which is probably overkill for this. Hypothetically you could print stickers since the books are sealed and have the 'access the digital content with this code' type of deal. But you would have to generate the codes and store them in the database (which isn't terrible). Put them in a spreadsheet and you can proably print them out on a sticker sheet. The printers maybe willing to apply a preprinted label on the books, otherwise, manual application would be tedious.
I worked for a small indie publisher and there was more than one project where all the non-managers were pulled into the warehouse to unwrap, sticker, and re-shrink a product. 20-30 people working to redo 5000 units can usually get it done ine less than a week. Memories...
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Silent Girlfriend is a favorite, looking forward to this!
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Daiz wrote...
This is my personal opinion, but for all the reasons described above (and more) I'm just not a fan of threaded comments at all. I think flat comments with good quote capabilities work out much better - you'll always know where to find new comments, and when done well they can even enable on-demand threading!That is cool, I admit, it is my personal preference that I am advocating. Maybe becuase I am a developer, I like the association of comments to their replies, like a linked list :)
Like in this thread, if Chris or someone responds to my post, I feel like it will be pretty bloated (because I typed so freaking much), so Chris would have to snip that away to make a shortened reply. At which point, the post won't really stand on it's own. People would have to go back further in the thread to find the original post. In a small thread like this, not a big deal, but some of Jacob's announcements get 99+ pages of posts. There is no way to quickly scan through that. So I just also glom onto the end of the thread.
But I see your guy's points, coming back to that without notifications, and the new stuff is all over the place. But I guess that would only matter if you were following all discussions in a thread?
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Drifter995 wrote...
...and you tag people to reply directly to them in that reply area...I don't mind doing it, but it seems clunky, since a reply to someone's comment, would be a reply to them, so to explicity state which comment it is a reply to...
I have had issues getting tagging to work in comments, especially if you edit the comment after the initial post, the stuff gets re-encoded weird.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Comment sections are a poor platform for any deep discussions (see YouTube). They're great for a quick digest and honestly I'm starting to think that's ideal. A large/deep comment chain makes the entire pile of comments more difficult to follow.I appreciate the response! I do feel that the reply limit is stifling banter, light hearted back and forths. I think a character limit will do more to keep that spirit (similar to twitter) than the curret model. To give a concrete example:
https://www.fakku.net/hentai/fishing-gal-english#8273838
See the last comments. I had a question, someone answered, I can't even reply with a thanks or some other banter about finding an obscure H. To me, that is stifling.
I think simply having it indent for the first one or two comments is what makes them readable. The only other thing really missing is a collapsing feature (per luinthoron). If a comment chain bores you, you minimize it. But the reply limit doesn't stop deep chains. If I dig I can find one with a chain 15 comments deep. But the comments are out of order and don't make a ton of sense (but it is puns, so none needed really).
To put another way, if you want to stop deep chains, limiting reply depth doesn't do it. It just creates mess of comments. You would need to limit the total replies in a given chain (which is horrible, but just saying).
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Opinions will quickly get buried and I think that's not a good result if artists want to check out what we had to say.That is an interesting point, but I have to ask: Are the comments there for the users to socialize or the artists to get feedback? You need to pick which is driving the feature, otherwise you'll have mixed results. If comments are for artists, then 40-60% of comments on a given story are 'off topic' (puns, notes on missing tags, etc.).
If the comments are for the artists, more than 90% of my comments are irrelevant. Which means that I don't see Fakku as a community, so I am less invested in it. If that is the intent, that is fine, but it certainly alters how I pervieve Fakku and my desire to keep it going.
Marketing strategies talk about creating a community, because that will increase your user loyalty and engagement. I think that is a good thing for Fakku, but I am just a user, not a policy maker. My suggestions are all in line with Fakku as a community. eBags has a community and they just sell luggage. I would even go so far as to say that the Internet is really about connecting humanity (as well as a knowledge repository).
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
This is a bit weird but I think if you guys want some really good discussion, I think it should happen on here or even on reddit. Every chapter that goes up here has a corresponding reddit post (excluding controversial I think), but not many people visit that sub pretty much ever. But I think that platform is superior for that type of discussion. I'd also like to see discussion taken here as it would breathe some life into the forums but it's awkward to have users go elsewhere. But the problem with forum discussions is that they're not great for branching. You get nested quote chains and it's still easy for someone's post to get buried.I will never be commenting on reddit. I want to keep my opions and thoughts on Fakku, and have no interest in randoms commenting or trolling us there. I think it makes sense to link to the forums from a chapter, so people have an easy access to it. I admit, I am not going to go out of my way to the forums, after reading something, just to post something. But if there was some connectivity between the forums and stories, I would totally do that. Even just a link that says 'goto the forums, there are X posts regarding this story' is something.
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
I had an idea to transform the comments section into a facade for a corresponding forum topic that would be generated for every chapter but that suggestion has a lot of issues too (while also being a lot of effort to implement). Anyway no matter what I think there really isn't a good solution for this.I actually like this approach quite a bit, as it is reusing the forums and you are re-inventing the wheel for comments. However, that feels to be a heavier approach. I like the ability to 'reply' and not just have to quote. Quoting feels like a serious discussion, not banter friendly.
I comment on many stories. I do not have the time to backtrack and so depend on the fact that a 'reply' to my comment will show up in the notifications. The notifications drive alot of my Fakku interactions, as I look to see who replied to my comment.
I want to re-iterate, I think Fakku has a good site. And I enjoy the commenting alot. I just get frustrated by the user experience of the site. Your milage may vary, but I want to stay on the Fakku website when commenting, interacting with Fakku community. I think comments and forums both have good seperate functions (brief vs deep), but the forums aren't integrated into the stories and that limits their visibility for that.
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luinthoron wrote...
If your problem is the lack of depth, why would you ask to remove it at all?Because my post was not well thought out :) I meant to ask to remove the commenting depth limitation, in other words, allow commenting to go as deep as possible.
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I gave commenting depth of 3 a shot, I tried to make it work, but too often I feel it stifles conversations.
If that is the intent, then it is working! Again, today, I received a reply to a comment and wanted to continue the conversation, but when I tried, my comment ended up up a non-sensical place in the comments (out of order).
If the issue is a UI issue (i.e. the display of the comments), please find a way to address that without removing the reply button. The reply button makes sure that my comment is attached to the correct comment and it notifies the original commenter that there is something to read/respond to.
Fakku simply has too much content for me to scroll through past stories to see if I have a comment I hadn't read. When the comment depth reaches 3, I have to either comment on my own comment and hope it shows up the logical place, or simply drop the conversation thread.
Again, if that is the intent, I think Fakku is missing out on a chance to grow the community via the comments.
If that is the intent, then it is working! Again, today, I received a reply to a comment and wanted to continue the conversation, but when I tried, my comment ended up up a non-sensical place in the comments (out of order).
If the issue is a UI issue (i.e. the display of the comments), please find a way to address that without removing the reply button. The reply button makes sure that my comment is attached to the correct comment and it notifies the original commenter that there is something to read/respond to.
Fakku simply has too much content for me to scroll through past stories to see if I have a comment I hadn't read. When the comment depth reaches 3, I have to either comment on my own comment and hope it shows up the logical place, or simply drop the conversation thread.
Again, if that is the intent, I think Fakku is missing out on a chance to grow the community via the comments.
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GODsHandOnEarth wrote...
Great story and great choice! But I must say I think "Whispers of Desire After School" like it's written on the sample is a better title than "Whispers After Class". It simply sounds nicer...I concur!
Excited for this book, the art work is stunning.
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thisisausername wrote...
I love the Japanese terms. They sound so much better than English. And booty is such a stupid word.
As someone who doesn't speak Japanese and hasn't had any luck with remembering them, I love the English version. I don't care how it sounds, since I am interested in 'using' the site, not appreciating it's aesthetics.
If we could mouse over the Japanese tags and get an English definition or had a page that defined what the words meant on the Fakku site, it would be alot easier to use.
I am not saying you are wrong about booty, but everyone who reads it, has some idea of what it means. Your definitions for several of the words are not correct, fyi. Kogals typically don't wear school uniforms, at least as a defining trait. Which is why school girl Kogals is such a great combo.