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First, the feminists proclaim that men do not treat them equally, so now I will treat Lisa Brown equally in the context of politics:

This is the video in question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SghMijpkrbs&feature=youtu.be

1)Lisa, your first mistake was invoking your religion in a political forum. I thought this country was founded on the separation of church and state, this includes policy debate(foreign and national policy debate) and while you tried to place the qualifer: "I'm not asking you to adopt my religious beliefs", in stating such beliefs as the reason for your denying the bill in a public forum, you pretty much are asking them to adopt your beliefs.

2)Yes, your use of the term "vagina" is inappropriate, again, it is a political forum. Especially in the context of the very defamatory way you stated it "I'm glad you're all so interested in my vagina." No, Ms. Lisa, I doubt the men of Michigan are interested in your vagina, or the men in this country for that matter.

But rather, the debate about abortion is a debate regarding the fact that as "Jewish law" supposedly states, the life of a female is superior to that of the life of the fetus. As an American, I believe the life of both mother and child, nay, the life of all beings are equal and wherever possible, we should work to preserve both lives. If a medical abortion cannot be avoided, I've already voiced my support for that. But let us define a medical abortion, since these women touched on it.

A medical abortion can only be clearly defined, as a situation where the life of the mother is in grave, mortal danger, and I'll put this disclaimer as well: And where the cons of bringing the baby into the world, outweigh the pros(IE:Life). Like say, if a baby is born with Downs Syndrome and only has like 5 years to live, I can see sparing the baby from being a statistic(infant mortality).

However, when you speak of "health of the baby", if you mean that there's a chance of developing a mental disorder, or some other kind of challenge and in your demi-god status you want the "perfect child", uh, no, thanks. I'm not allowing that politically. While, in the thirties prior to the war America was a supporter of eugenics, we are a much different, more civilized nation now.

I do not support eugenics, I believe if we want a healthy baby, we should take care of ourselves as adults. Of course, you can do all of those things and still end up with "flaws", but so what?

I was born with Cerebral Palsy, and supposedly(though I deny it), Autism, etc. I overcame those challenges to become the college intellectual you see today. Am I still flawed? Life is not perfect, at any stage including birth.

Neither the male, nor the female has the right to control it. We've no right over the sanctity of life. Period.

Secondly, Gizgal is clearly referring to the Toronto issue when he says "Women are profiled and blamed", women were not being profiled or blamed for anything. But rather, that if you carry yourself in a proper manner(IE:Wear clothing appropriate for the situation you may be in), stay with the correct crowds, etc. There's less of a chance(of being forcibly raped)

Is it perfect? No. Of course, there are scumbags who will abuse women simply for the power it gives them. And it's up to decent minded males to outnumber these scumbags and treat women with respect.

Should the police officer have said what he said? To his daughter or wife, perhaps, but in a public forum he's expected to make politically correct statements such as "Hear the victim out, leave nothing to chance, etc." The Police force has been politicized sadly by public pressure and this same politicization actually makes the police force ineffective at it's job.

If we treated the police in the same manner that we treated the CIA or FBI, I wonder if that rape sentencing statistic would improve?

Like all other fellow ('90-95) kids I grew up watching Pokemon, DBZ, Gundam Wing. In hindsight, GW>>Both of those. The anime that got me into anime? Outlaw Star. Specifically, Melfina's theme is godly.

I don't think anyone here really cares if a person drives a ferrari or not, or if they're rich or not. America was meant to be a capitalistic country, so if you play within the rules and make a ton of money that's something I appreciate and in fact I am trying to put myself in that position(who wouldn't?). You're right, a part of this is government de-regulation, but that goes to the lobbyists that the likes of Wall Street implant in Washington to begin with. People would want their resources to 'double' or 'triple' but at least, with miniumn risk to them or at least having some kind of control over the risk. Putting your money in a safe, that you don't have access to and really, not even getting equal to the money you put in the system.

It's theft, there's no two ways about it. As for the home owners knowing what they got themselves into: False, what these brokers did, was they purposed a good deal at the time, with no money down and a low percentage. Of course, you'd be fooled into thinking you could afford that. But what most people didn't realize was the fine print, saying that original low percentage would increase.

A similar scenario occurs as it regards to Credit Cards, you think you have a low pay rate on your Credit Card but with each purchase you make, it becomes that much more expensive to pay the credit card bill.

In reality, millions of Americans have been robbed of their jobs, livelihood and economic future by the very scum you're trying to defend. Could they have made better decisions? Of course, but that's not easy to do when your promised the sky and when the fine print is hidden intentionally from you on purpose.

Let's get one thing straight about Wall Street, Freddie Mae, Mac, etc. Several of these companies don't actually help the general public. What percentage of America benefits from the gambles, speculation, etc that goes on daily on Wall Street? I'll give you 5% generously. They have you buy into the 401K's, the stocks, the retirement funds. Then they gamble it away, putting your entire livelihood at risk.

They make money...doing positively nothing for the economy, their black holes on the economic value of the dollar. When the majority of the wealth goes to these scum bags, does it surprise you about the ghettos we have? The problems we have? None of this is new, English men generally despised these type of 'businessmen', and Glass-Stegall among other laws were meant to restrict them. Now, their restrictions are bar none.

We didn't need to bail out the criminals, we needed to restore the power of the purse, the power of main street.

The dude mispoke(Not that I'm defending him, but this is political grandstanding of it's worst kind.) There is, no "Magical defense mechanism" for a female, specifically relating to rape cases of course.

However, there is a defense mechanism that's scientifically known and proven: The antibodies. Do you know why it takes at most, several months of intercourse before pregnancy? Because the antibodies inside the vagina cannot tell the difference from sperm or any other foreign germ or 'body'.

That is to say, I could have intercourse with a woman I loved, and release, say I don't know within that stream of cum some 100 sperm eggs. By the time the anti-bodies are done with it, maybe 5 sperm eggs hit the womb, if I'm lucky.

Getting a woman pregnant is like playing the lottery, you might get lucky and land a bunch of sperm eggs in her womb. You might be somewhere in the middle and get a few in, so you'll have to try again.

Of course, this isn't an 'excuse' for rapists and obviously not for Akin's comments, the defense mechanism far from perfect, doesn't protect a woman's womb completely from rape. But it is a scientifically proven fact that the antibodies interfere with impregnation.

Here's one link about the subject of the antibodies:
http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/8194608/reload=0;jsessionid=LRjpcMDgw1FVrUbZL2Z2.0

I want to re-empathize(since you like taking my words out of context so much.) I'm not defending Akin here, nor am I defending who I believe to be the worst of criminals, right up there with murderers.

But I do want to point out, that there might be some scientific research into explanations as to why pregnancy via rape is not some big statistic.

One excuse has always been: "The victims don't want to retell the tale of their horror", and no they probably don't, but they neither want to lie. At least, I'll honor the victims that much by believing that a victim will tell us the gist of what happened while respecting her own fragile mind at the time of a vicious attack.

'Facts' are nothing more than accepted opinions, there's no scientific research one way or another, however in no world other than the world of the pro-abortionist is 5% a "large number".

5% of a cesspool is a really, really small percentage point lol.

So as to make it clear: 1% is one percent too much, but for the purpose of identifying it as a legitimate excuse for an open-ranged abortion policy, it is a poor excuse. One of the poorer ones actually.

The difference between soda and fast food and a cigarette is that, the latter are beverages and solids(and therefore, can be consumed by the human body), whereas the cigarette is a foreign object with no real place for the human system. It destroys the lungs, injects drugs(Nicotine) into your body and may or may not cause problems.

Hasn't caused problems for my grandmother, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be stupid enough to smoke one.

That said, someone said that tobacco has a "rich and deep history in our culture", and this in my mind is the big problem(same with the alchol, prohibition failure) is that these things have "become a part of our culture." and as a result we can't part with them.

Sometimes, I don't think this country has much in the way of morality, pride or a sense of ethics. In fact, we're so far removed from those things that I think this country tends to be shallow at times.

Don't give me a position, that I don't have. It's true, that I believe that all life, whether it be a zygote or a 60 year old man has the sanctity of life. But the responsibilities of motherhood(and fatherhood), should be reserved only for when your ready for that stage. Proper birth control that doesn't endanger the life of the mother, condoms, etc. I support all of these.

Of course, sadly, these items have been used to more openly engage in sex and defile the very meaning of romance but that's their choice. We can't regulate or govern everything, or we'll live in a hell hole.

With the advent of these tools though, the case of ill-affording a child should be less, not more. Taking responsibility for our ability to bring lives into the world, and holding some kind of meaning in our lives and the lives of others is our
responsibility to society, our responsibility to future generations.

If we fail to take this responsibility, we will continue to accept a society that murders it's defenseless and parades countless excuses to allow the genocide to continue.

America is a morally bankrupt, third world country. With first world materialism to disguise that fact.

You'd be surprised, I find that I have quite the sex drive and I long to be lustful with a woman. However, lust alone, I've found recently isn't enough. It's not as pleasurable as it used to be. To simply look at a woman sexually, I find is the worst offense I could do. If I want to truly love a woman, and lust after her in the correct way, I would love everything about her. And there'd be a sense of connection.

When thinking about my feelings, it made me that much more of a Yandere fan. With a Yandere, that sense of connection and feeling would be possible, along with the intense sex she would demand.

And so, here's the identity of yours truly, the most hated devil on Fakku this week. This was taken before I went to my H.S. prom a few years ago.

Edit: And just like that, I already got neg repped for posting the picture :D.

I 'fully' support Medical Abortion(IE: Rape, incest, the victims), but even to this extent, I believe it's right to have the hope that one day, in the science field we develop the technology to safely deliver from complicated preganancies.

In all realism, we probably won't be able to ban abortion in the same way we won't be able to ban guns. As dangerous, ill-concieved and anti-life as these items are, they're staunchly in our society and as such will probably never be removed.

Then, can we uphold our morality? We can, by avoiding as many "Pro-choice abortions"(IE:Murder) as we can. There's no reason to 'get' an abortion, just because you don't want to be a mother. I believe, we as humans should have the ability to decently converse about our intentions in a relationship, how serious we think we can go and if we can support a child, etc.

In my ideal world, we'd only support medical abortion and I'd be satisfied: We would've cut the abortion rate in nearly half. Because there are few medical cases, as opposed to the thousand of "pro-choice" cases.

The idea of taking away a life as a business, is well...Let's call a spade, a spade: Wall Street cronyism doesn't even come close to that. But, in a country where there's millions of people, the opinions of a few, or even a thousand pales in comparison. So, no matter how I feel about the sanctity of life, we've long past that stage and any hope of recovery is sadly a dream.

I feel sad for victims of rape, I believe we should prosecute rapists the same as murderers. The failure of prosecution is at the state and federal level, and the best way to change things? A good ole threat: Failure to prosecute will risk the loss of the job of the Attorney General. As well as police who fail to follow through on the evidence.

Public servants, are SERVANTS of the state, city, country and the people in it. Crack the freaking whip.

But even with all of the rape, incest victims, and any other victim you want to add there: Their numbers pail in comparison to the tens of thousands of meaningless abortions a year, for the most selfish of reasons: "I'm not in an economic position to raise the child."

Question: Why'd you enter a serious relationship, knowing that fact? It goes back to what I said in another thread: Let's not condone the criminal, but let's also not condone stupid.

Giving women the right to play demi-god, to condemn stupid is the definition of a third world country.

Simply put: Is that embyro going to become something other than a human being? Pregnancy, when it's allowed to actually go through the process is a black and white thing. Either you give birth, or you have a miscarriage.

There is no such thing as a half child, half animal(At least, not that I've heard), or some other extraordinary phenemon occuring in birth.

It's not 'religious' at all, it's a scientific fact. Until we see a different phenmon occur, the only thing a pregnant woman can give birth to, is another human.

Yes. The Sanctity of Life is the highest law of nature, the moment we lose this moral standing, is the moment we become, yes, we are indeed a third world country with first world material.

America has fallen, far from a threat to abortion, abortion groups such as Planned Parenthood enjoy massive funding, target low-key impoverished areas and they literally 'push' the patient towards abortion(Because the more abortions they perform, the higher the funding.)

Disgusting? Yes, of the umpteenth degree. Some 'rights', we're better off without. Murder for profit is one of them.

Well, it's pretty much universal. If we talk about women's rights, we have to address this issue. And I believe it's an issue we need to address, what right do we humans have to take away a life, any life?

The only exception I've ever thought of, was like Light Yagami: Only the worst and most serial of criminals, who disregard lives, including their own and would only be a danger to further life.

The death penalty, in the ideal world, should be the only source of death inflicted by anything other than disease or old age. Obviously, we're not in the ideal world but we can move closer.

Starting by giving our fetuses the same rights as at least freaking animals. I mean, that's disgusting that they don't have that right.

Great, so our president is a sexist. I'd like to ask him how many females are in parliament? Exactly. And I'll say it once again: We are not making decisions on behalf of women, we're taking women off the pedestal of making themselves Demi-Gods deciding whether their children will live or die or not.

Murder is murder, and legalizing a form of murder doesn't make it any less so. And the life of the fetus is no different than the life of a child, or an adult. Our newborns have less rights than freaking animals.

I wonder what America's position is on infanticide, it's pretty much the same thing.

I'm one of those guys that generally dislike body hair. Luckily, my body has complied and I don't have much hair to deal with.

Fine, it's my opinion. It's an opinion that I think should be more prevalent than it is. The fact that it isn't, is quite sad :(.

It's like saying it doesn't snow much in California, after reporting all of the incidents of snow in California, the percentage generally won't raise that much higher.

For proper statistical probability, there has to be a significant base percentage. Another example is the election process, if a candidate wins more states than another candidate, it doesn't matter if candidate b overwhelming wins in the states he won.(Of course, the delegate vote of keystone states changes this somewhat, but not really.)

Let me condense your post, you equated me to a rapist, in stating that I violate the female's rights by pushing my own idea of morality on them. Firstly, I disagree with the notion that there's "different" types of morality. We either have the morality to respect ourselves, our peers and our bodies or we don't.

Secondly, in upholding that moral standard for myself and others I don't subject others to 'my opinion', or 'my will.' I uphold what I believe should be our standards for humanity. I'd like to see what government institutions prevented women from dressing however they wanted, this will be amusing.

My idea of masculinity, the way I would like to present myself as a man is someone who respects females, someone who idolizes his lover and has her by his side. Someone who will cultivate a strong sense of family values.

A world without these moralities, again, is the lowest common denominator of western civilization, it's trash. Sexuality can only be truly open in one place,the bedroom. Anywhere else, it loses it's elegance.