[Anime] Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean: Continue or Drop?

Well, like you said, as of now, they'd need to make it multiple universes. And I think that would create more problems than people would be happy with -- although that's just my view on it. At any rate, there are 2 more episodes due in November, so Season 1 isn't done yet, and they'd be beyond stupid to leave it with only 1 season, so I think a second season is a safe bet as well. I just hope it takes the same path as the original: a ~meh. 1st half (so far. this is assuming it goes for only 2 seasons in the end) and then a badass, full-of-awesome, undefinably-incredible second half. That said, if it ends up with more than 2 seasons, provided the quality keeps going up, I'd be even happier.

Also, am I the only one who's reading the manga too? And wondering wtf is taking so long? (I know it's done monthly, but I know of 4 chapters, and it's been longer than that.)

Well, we shall see in due time. As for the manga, I think that it has been put on hiatus since the anime was pretty much being pumped out each week.

Slow... It's already a multiverse if you watched ep 22.

I already watched it, so stop assuming stuff. It doesn't necessarily say that the universe that Renton was shown in as an alternate universe, just a different section of the timeline. Let's keep this as a thread for discussing the anime itself.

That universe is most likely the universe in Pocket Full of Rainbows, with the same timeline as his original universe.

Just a friendly tip...do not read the manga.I read E7 manga and the ending is just....too sad

It can't be, because the Eureka from that universe is not a Coralion. The one from AO and the original Eureka Seven is. Thus, it is not a multiverse. (As of right now, at least.)




Yeah, I, unfortunately - (yes, you read that right, UNfortunately) - have read the manga too. I got to the end and was like, WTF?!?!? Y U MAKE SHITTY ENDING?! Y U KILL MAIN CHARACTERS?!
Then I watched the anime.
Epic pwnage.
It's probably the only time I like the anime more than the manga for story reasons. (The only other anime I prefer over the manga is Deadman Wonderland. It's just... it's... it's too fucked up for words. It's not as bad as Gantz, but it's probably just behind it.)

It is. Just so happen that both Eureka we've seen were from different time lines of the same dimension/universe.

I have come to the following conclusion:
You are one of the following:
Wrong about this, know that you are wrong about this, and are unwilling to admit it.
OR
Wrong about this, do not know that you are wrong or cannot see that you are wrong, and are unwilling to admit it.
OR
You are mistaken as to what the definition of "different time lines of the same dimension" actually means. (It means that they are from a set of branching reality forks of the space-time continuum, and, as such, are not the same reality, and thus are not the same dimension/universe either. A different time line means that the causation-reality is not the same between the two. They might be set in the same series, (character-wise), but that doesn't mean that they are set in the same universe.)
OR
You are a troll.

Edgy.

Didn't you read what Ivicha said in ep 13?

herp derp try again

...If you want to repeat that, and be more specific in what you're asking me if I've read (ex: by restating it or telling me what time in the episode he said it), I could look it up, and determine what you mean. Until then, I won't accept what you are saying, because you could mean anything he said in the entire episode, and I don't want to bother with trying to determine what you are referencing with absolutely no clue to go on as to what you mean.
As for being edgy, not really no. I just don't like it when people don't understand something, but continue to claim that it is right. If, contrary to what I believe, I am the one who is wrong, then I will state that you are right, and apologize. That said, I've seen no indication that I am wrong from my own personal viewing, and you have provided no evidence as such.
So, do you want to, as you stated "herp derp try again"? Because all you gave me is a vague reference to narrow something down with no guidelines at all on what you mean.
Rebuttal?

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NOTE:
I got rid of a bunch of the previous quotations.

First of all, just to point out, Eureka has a very clearly visible gem (or piece of coralion flesh, idk what it is), in her forehead, proving that she is from the reality of the Eureka Seven tv series; this is something that the Eureka from Pocket Full of Rainbows never gets.

Anyways:
Picture 1:
Yes, she is a version of Eureka that is younger than his mother was when she gave birth to Ao. Does not prove your point.

Picture 2:
Yes, it is from earlier in Eureka's own timeline. It's easier to understand if I explain it using an example from something like Doctor Who: River Song's & the Doctor's timelines are in reverse order. As the Doctor gets older, he meets younger versions of her. The first time he met her was when she died on the Library planet. Likewise, the Eureka from when she first (relative to her) met Ivicha, was younger than the version of Eureka from when Ivicha first met her (relative to Ivicha). It goes like this:
Ivicha is X years old, Eureka pops into the timeline for a few years, and meets him, mentioning that she has a 3 year old son named Ao. She already seemed to know both Ivicha and the other man whom Truth killed in Episode 13, because she had been introduced to them both already when she, as a younger woman, had arrived in the year in which Ivicha was (X+13) years old. This is why both of them knew the other when they were first introduced. (Yes, this isn't a very neat explanation, but explaining time-travel and the nature of the 4th dimension is an element best left to sci-fi writers.)

Picture 3:
Yeah, that's a picture of the crashed Gekko which belonged to Gekkostate. I don't know why you put that there. It's from the end of episode 22.

Picture 4:
Also from the end of episode 22.


Also, as revealed by Maggie Kwan (Qwan?), Elena is from the past, and she was rescued from a Scub Burst by Eureka basically swooping in from out of a different time period, grabbing her, and pulling her out of that time of the scub burst. She pulled Elena, at least for a short time, into the time period in which the original Eureka Seven took place, because of Elena's comment about "a heart on the moon", which was carved there at the end of Eureka Seven episode 50.

In addition, when Renton says, at the end of episode 22 of AO, that he can go to where Eureka is due to a Seventh Swell, that proves that Seventh Swell effects can be used for time travel.
Also... at what point in Pocket Full of Rainbows did the Nirvash look like that? (I'm referencing the end of ep 22 of AO). I don't remember seeing that, but it certainly looked that way in the last 2 episodes of Eureka Seven.

Thank you for providing pictures, but I still don't see where you're getting the idea that this series already has multiple realities in place, instead of having people from multiple time periods appearing.

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lol wat? Gekko is different from that ship. Stop trying to deny the fact that Ao has a multiverse. Moe Eureka doesn't have that gem, so does that corpse in that ship. The Seven Swell acts as a portal to a random time and dimension. From Eureka Seven as well, Scub Corals can alter the laws of physics. hence, they can perform those things such as leaping through time(probably with the aid of quartz)

Gonzy would like to say hi





once again

2edgy4me

Goddamn winter55, you really know your Eureka 7

...the nose of that ship looks exactly like the Gekko. And I'm not trying to deny anything. I'm asking you for something that 100% proves that what you are saying is correct.
I'd also like to ask a few things about what you said:
"Moe Eureka doesn't have that gem, so does that corpse in that ship."
First of all, if your grammatical structure were correct, I might actually understand that sentence. (And who the heck is "Moe Eureka"?) Moving on...
"The Seven Swell acts as a portal to a random time and dimension."
It's called a "Seventh Swell", not a "Seven Swell", and where on earth is a statement proving that the Seventh Swell effect acts as a portal to a random time and dimension? It has not been proven to go to either a random time, or a random dimension. If anything, it's only been proven to go to one time period. Don't forget that Eureka was transporting a massive amount of quartz when she began to randomly hop through time periods. (Although, as Maggie Kwan pointed out, Eureka probably isn't appearing randomly -- she's appearing where & when scub bursts will happen.)
Also, I feel that I must mention that in Eureka Seven, humans left Earth for millenia, because the scub overran the planet, and then they returned later, and, not knowing what the original earth looked like (nobody was alive from when they left, after all), they assumed that the earth's surface was the earth's surface, when in fact it was actually an enormous coating of scub coral.

As for Gonzy: yes, he said that. He also never appeared in AO, nor gave any indication that the AO universe was the one they chose. Again, if this is the case, we have seen no proof of it.

Also, to clarify: you claim that Eureka Seven AO is confirmed to have multiple realities. I say that is not the case, but I'm not saying that can't change in the future. All I'm saying is that we have seen no official proof that Pocket Full of Rainbows & both Eureka 7 & AO are all in the same continuity.

Think of it this way: American comic books are notorious for having a huge number of realities. I have no idea how many "Earths" there even are. This is similar. They might be connected, and the possibility exists, but no proof has been put forward by the creators yet.

Anyways, if any other readers of this thread, (few that they probably are in number), wish to join this debate on either side, go right ahead -- just don't start flaming.

(And don't forget, this will probably become a moot discussion in November, when the last 2 episodes of season 1 come out.)

THIS is Gekko:


Anyways, this thing has been discussed in /m/ so many times and all shit has been cleared.

Not same continuity... For one, the Ao timeline is corrupted. Johannson's book tells how that world should really be. Eureka's own world on the other hand, despite having rockets and all during the past, is different. They could've started the same, but the future may have ended up differently 10,000 years later. With the Scub Corals manipulating the laws of physics, they ended up in different universe, thus, changing the flow of history.

You know what? At this point, I honestly don't care any more.
I suggest we agree to disagree, and see what happens in the next 2 episodes.

My head is starting to hurt; probably because this series seems to LOVE messing with how the world works.

Anybody have any predictions for the upcoming episodes? Please put it under spoiler tags to prevent ruining it for people who do not want to see it.