Fate/stay night - WHAT IF we really have a Holy Grail War?

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I want to know other people’s opinions concerning: Who and what servant do you want?

Let’s say like Nasuverse (TYPE-MOON universe), there really is a Holy Grail War in our world. YOU are a magi that has been chosen to participate in the war. Obviously, you NEED to summon your own servant.

So who is the servant that you want to summon and in under what classification? (7 classes only)

Some rules concerning servants:

1. Servants are Heroic or evil Spirits and that means they are still fundamentally human. So you can’t summon any gods such as Zeus, Odin, and Izanagi. (And they are so OP!)

2. However, you can summon demigods like Hercules, Gilgamesh and Cuchulain since they are not fully gods. (Also, try not to offend so no Jesus, Muhammad etc… well you get the idea)

3. Assassin class in not limited to True Assassin so you can choose your own assassin.

4. Your servant must really be qualified for their class. e.g.,
- Lu Bu can be Rider (Red Hare), Archer, Lancer since he really is known for that.
- Merlin can’t be a Saber for very obvious reasons.

5. Servants are legends. So no game, comic or other anime characters like Kratos, Sephiroth, Wolverine or Goku, etc.

That’s all. You can choose a servant for each of the seven classes but you have to state the servant that you are going to use to win the war.
If you can, try not to summon the same servant from the Fate series. But if you really like them feel free to do that.
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I think I will go with Achilles as a Saber class. Then after I summon him I'll beg that he doesn't tell his name to anyone. I will even use a command seal if really needed. Because one hit from an Archer and he including me will be a goner.

I just realized, Achilles can never be a Saber... Though he uses a sword, his weapon of preference (and ultimate one) is a spear. A spear which is a gift from the gods or his dad, and the one that he used to kill Hector.

So Achilles = Lancer

I could also go with Morgan le Fay as a Caster.
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mibuchiha Fakku Elder
kickiluxxx wrote...
2. However, you can summon demigods like Hercules, Gilgamesh and Cuchulain since they are not fully gods. (Also, try not to offend so no Jesus, Muhammad etc… well you get the idea)


Aww.
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hmm....A hero, i would like to say Gilgamesh but hes already a character. So... Odysseus. A Archer Class.
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then Hitler = Berserker?

i choose it
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Jack the Ripper = Assassin?
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DonkeyFace wrote...
Jack the Ripper = Assassin?


http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Fate/Apocrypha_characters#Jack_the_Ripper

Hel - Caster.

If Hel is considered a God. Then.. ignore my post.


Goddess of the inglorious dead w/e.

Paris - Archer

to spite OP.
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kickiluxxx wrote...

5. Servants are legends. So no game, comic or other anime characters like Kratos, Sephiroth or Goku, etc.


And yet Sasaki Kojiro is summoned as an assasin despite being one character from a story. i guess the really famous ones from stories can be counted.

OT: i'll choose Abe no Seimei as caster.
Spoiler:
He was a calendar scholar, a diviner and a magic mentor who belonged to the Imperial Court of the Heian period. Mastering the Yin Yang philosophy that is derived from ancient China, he manipulated the soul metamorphosing freely called "Shikigami" and caused mysterious phenomena . Such a person is called "onmyouji" or "onyouji".

Noble Phantasm: Summon all his 12 shikigami/servant spirits.Forum Image: http://images.elfwood.com/art/t/a/tasha/seimei4.jpg
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://s2.zerochan.net/240/33/31/651583.jpg
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Leonidas, Lancer/Saber

Skills:

"Sparta", Leonidas summons a Reality Marble featuring his 300 fellow spartan soldiers.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
You should add this.
Any character besides
-Fate/stay night
-Fate/Zero
-Fate/Extra
-Fate/Apocryha


-Sasaki Kojiro, is a special case, He's actually a fusion of many lesser heroic spirits, and he self-proclaim himself to be Kohiro.
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Nicolas Flamel as Caster
Skills
-Alchemy/Item Construction
Noble Phantasm
- Philosopher's Stone

Jiraiya as Assasin
Skills
-Shapeshift
-Presence Concealment
Noble Phantasm
-? lol don't know

Lol folktale, same as Kojiro
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wanted Susanoo, but he's a Japanese God.
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Minamoto no Yoshitsune - Archer
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George Washington - Saber

Strength - A

Endurance - A

Agility - A

Prana - B-

Luck - D+

Noble Phantasm - A++



Skills:

Charisma: Natural talent to command an army. Can be said to have achieved
the greatest level of popularity as a human being.

Military Tactics: Tactical Knowledge used not for one-on-one combat situations but for battles where many are mobilized. Bonus modifiers are provided during use of one's own anti-army Noble Phantasm or when dealing against an enemy Anti-army noble phantasm.

Inspiration - Gives allies around him small bonus stats, and increases the chance
for enemy units to join his cause, this can be prevented with anti-magecraft skills.


Noble Phantasm:

United Army:

Rank - A+
Type: Anti-Army


Calls upon the United States army of the current time to fight for him,
they will be summoned depending on the situation (If they are at Sea, the Navy,
by land, Marines, ect). If the United States no longer exist at the given time,
they will be summoned from ten years before the country's destruction. Army
gains bonus stats if faced against a King/Leader that is aligned with Chaos.




Spoiler:
i took alot from Rider's stuff





Also for the record: Some Servants are based on Gods, so we should have been able to use them.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Souls wrote...
George Washington - Saber


kickiluxxx wrote...

4. Your servant must really be qualified for their class. e.g.,
- Lu Bu can be Rider (Red Hare), Archer, Lancer since he really is known for that.
- Merlin can’t be a Saber for very obvious reasons.


Does George Washington qualifies as a good fencer/swordsman?
He's more of an Archer (rifles) or a Rider (Horses), or he might just fall into the newest class, Ruler

Souls wrote...
Also for the record: Some Servants are based on Gods, so we should have been able to use them.


Gods No, not one servant that exists in any Fate series is a pure god. Most of them are demi-gods.
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Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...
George Washington - Saber


kickiluxxx wrote...

4. Your servant must really be qualified for their class. e.g.,
- Lu Bu can be Rider (Red Hare), Archer, Lancer since he really is known for that.
- Merlin can’t be a Saber for very obvious reasons.


Does George Washington qualifies as a good fencer/swordsman?
He's more of an Archer (rifles) or a Rider (Horses), or he might just fall into the newest class, Ruler


He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Souls wrote...

He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.


The question, was he "famous" enough with the sword?

Nero's wars was fought with swords, GW's wars was fought with rifles.
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Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...

He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.


The question, was he "famous" enough with the sword?

Nero's wars was fought with swords, GW's wars was fought with rifles.


You're telling me Nero himself was famous with a sword?

Forum Image: http://i41.tinypic.com/35i4q3m.jpg
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Souls wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...

He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.


The question, was he "famous" enough with the sword?

Nero's wars was fought with swords, GW's wars was fought with rifles.


You're telling me Nero himself was famous with a sword?


you're ignoring my 2nd sentence.

and just because he can use a sword, doesn't always mean he's good at them. Look at all the other existing Sabers, most of them are famous for their swordsmanship.

What weapon did George use to unify the country?
Guns, rifles, cannons. If you can find a reliable source that they used swords more than guns and rifles, I'll accept it.

if you can't, the it shows that you just wanted him to be Saber because you like the Saber class.

Honestly Nero, is the worst Saber example. She was just made because "Sabers are cool."
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Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...

He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.


The question, was he "famous" enough with the sword?

Nero's wars was fought with swords, GW's wars was fought with rifles.


You're telling me Nero himself was famous with a sword?


you're ignoring my 2nd sentence.

and just because he can use a sword, doesn't always mean he's good at them. Look at all the other existing Sabers, most of them are famous for their swordsmanship.

What weapon did George use to unify the country?
Guns, rifles, cannons. If you can find a reliable source that they used swords more than guns and rifles, I'll accept it.

if you can't, the it shows that you just wanted him to be Saber because you like the Saber class.

Honestly Nero, is the worst Saber example. She was just made because "Sabers are cool."


Nero being Saber is canon, Nero isn't known for being good with a sword either, yet he is Saber. So there is no reason to think George Washington can't be a saber either.
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Oh look, it's THIS thread.

Souls wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
Souls wrote...

He was as good with a sword as Nero was, if not better (probably better) and Nero is in the Saber class. So i stand by my post.


The question, was he "famous" enough with the sword?

Nero's wars was fought with swords, GW's wars was fought with rifles.


You're telling me Nero himself was famous with a sword?


you're ignoring my 2nd sentence.

and just because he can use a sword, doesn't always mean he's good at them. Look at all the other existing Sabers, most of them are famous for their swordsmanship.

What weapon did George use to unify the country?
Guns, rifles, cannons. If you can find a reliable source that they used swords more than guns and rifles, I'll accept it.

if you can't, the it shows that you just wanted him to be Saber because you like the Saber class.

Honestly Nero, is the worst Saber example. She was just made because "Sabers are cool."


Nero being Saber is canon, Nero isn't known for being good with a sword either, yet he is Saber. So there is no reason to think George Washington can't be a saber either.


His point is it's nearly impossible for people who lived in the era of firearms to be qualified as Heroic Spirits because people hardly believe in magic anymore, and normal soldiers can achieve more feats than old heroes thanks to firearms. Nero passed as Saber because the Grail's system in Fate/Extra is different than SN and Nasu's lolwriting gave her an original sword which is also her RM. Even if George was known for his swordmanship, did he ever have a name for his sword or achieve heroic feats using it more than a rifle? If yes, then according to OP's rules he could be Saber, if not then try another class. By your logic any historical figure can be Saber as long as they were shown carrying a sword in their picture.
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Damn I'm still intoxicated with Fate/Extra... Can Kenshin pass as a Saber Class??
Just like Arthur and
Spoiler:
Nero Ceasar
that were in female gender as a servant..

I want Uesugi Kenshin as my Saber
Forum Image: http://images.wikia.com/alicesoft/images/5/5f/Sengoku_Rance_-_Uesugi_Kenshin.jpg

Even though F/E has "Alice" I also want my Alice in P4 as my Caster
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M59sf7qn2nw/TUTVaHuDbmI/AAAAAAAAATM/GSlldNDm4UM/s1600/alice.png


*EdiT

haha I just loled at my friend... she want Hero Yuy as her Rider