[Locked] Debate on Moving and Merging of Threads (Former Title: Paul)
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
cruz737 wrote...
What are you talking about?The merging of the "Rate the song above you" threads into CTFG's "What are you listening to now?".
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They do it because they're childish. some people can't handle being given even the tiniest bit of authority with out abusing it.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
It was reported and I agreed it didn't belong in music, deal with it.
Pray tell Shag, how am I abusing authority?
Pray tell Shag, how am I abusing authority?
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Waar wrote...
It was reported and I agreed it didn't belong in music, deal with it.Is it impossible to un-merge and move it back?
If so, what would happen if another one just so happened to pop up in Music?
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Hobogunner wrote...
Waar wrote...
It was reported and I agreed it didn't belong in music, deal with it.Is it impossible to un-merge and move it back?
If so, what would happen if another one just so happened to pop up in Music?
It's not possible to merge it back and as I said I agreed that it did not belong. If the issue was the merge and not the threads location then you have a new thread that was created today. If another thread is made there was a previous warning given by tegumi and thus we would be under our rights to deliver a short ban to whoever ignored the warning.
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Waar wrote...
Hobogunner wrote...
Waar wrote...
It was reported and I agreed it didn't belong in music, deal with it.Is it impossible to un-merge and move it back?
If so, what would happen if another one just so happened to pop up in Music?
It's not possible to merge it back and as I said I agreed that it did not belong. If the issue was the merge and not the threads location then you have a new thread that was created today. If another thread is made there was a previous warning given by tegumi and thus we would be under our rights to deliver a short ban to whoever ignored the warning.
Then why is my thread in Food&Cooking not in the CTFG?
A little contradictive, especially since it was moved out of IB to F&C.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Because I have not seen your thread in Food and Cooking. If it's something I feel I should move, I will. I don't have to justify my actions to you or any other member of this community, the only people I answer to are the admins. If you want your thread in music you should request Jacob move it.
Look, I got a report(2 in fact) from users saying the thread should be moved, I checked it out and agreed something like that didnt deserve to be worth posts. I did my job and moved something based on my opinion and this was the outcome. People who claim it's an abuse of power are being ridiculous, is it abuse because I don't agree with you? Are you saying I should do what the majority want, and not what I think is right? I'm going to keep doing my "job" to the best of my ability, which means I'm going to decide things on how I interpret the rules, if you'd like to change that get me fired or become a global mod yourself, otherwise things will remain this was indefinitely.
Look, I got a report(2 in fact) from users saying the thread should be moved, I checked it out and agreed something like that didnt deserve to be worth posts. I did my job and moved something based on my opinion and this was the outcome. People who claim it's an abuse of power are being ridiculous, is it abuse because I don't agree with you? Are you saying I should do what the majority want, and not what I think is right? I'm going to keep doing my "job" to the best of my ability, which means I'm going to decide things on how I interpret the rules, if you'd like to change that get me fired or become a global mod yourself, otherwise things will remain this was indefinitely.
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Waar wrote...
Because I have not seen your thread in Food and Cooking. If it's something I feel I should move, I will. I don't have to justify my actions to you or any other member of this community, the only people I answer to are the admins. If you want your thread in music you should request Jacob move it.Look, I got a report(2 in fact) from users saying the thread should be moved, I checked it out and agreed something like that didnt deserve to be worth posts. I did my job and moved something based on my opinion and this was the outcome. People who claim it's an abuse of power are being ridiculous, is it abuse because I don't agree with you? Are you saying I should do what the majority want, and not what I think is right? I'm going to keep doing my "job" to the best of my ability, which means I'm going to decide things on how I interpret the rules, if you'd like to change that get me fired or become a global mod yourself, otherwise things will remain this was indefinitely.
I never claimed it was abuse of power, and I agree that it is ridiculous to claim such. A moderator one should perform their duties by helping enforce the rules and remain completely neutral on an issue.
I cannot deny that you did just that; however, to an extent the greater good should be kept. Posts aren't anything other than a number, and things that deal with music should be in Music. The argument of "Worth a post" is invalid, simply because it is a mere number that can get you a convenient tag next to your name, which ultimately means nothing. It doesn't break any rules having something like that, as it does discuss music, so that argument is out as well. I just don't see ultimately why it would be moved.
Please, don't take what I'm saying as aggressively as you seem to be, it doesn't matter to me, I simply think it should be in music.
Just as you moved my thread from F&C. There is no point. It discusses what that forum should be about.
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
All I hear is faggots complaining something was moved to CTFG when you damn well know that if it was moved anywhere else you would all just deal with it.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
If the posts don't mean a thing then why are users complaining? The truth of the matter is users dislike the chat section. What greater good? What are you talking about? I acted based on my opinion and I still hold to my opinion being right, that a "rate the above" thread only belongs in the chat section. Why does the subject supersede my opinion of it's worth? Does the chat section not permit any threads about music?
My response was in part to other users and the global effect my action seems to have caused, I'm not asking you to respond, simply explaining my side of things, another user called it abuse, I made it clear it wasn't. I don't know where you feel the aggression, I always post this way.
As with your thread, the subject matter doesn't change the overall quality of the post. Thanks for bringing it to my attention btw.
My response was in part to other users and the global effect my action seems to have caused, I'm not asking you to respond, simply explaining my side of things, another user called it abuse, I made it clear it wasn't. I don't know where you feel the aggression, I always post this way.
As with your thread, the subject matter doesn't change the overall quality of the post. Thanks for bringing it to my attention btw.
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Hold on. 2 users complaining is greater than about 10 who want it moved back? What sense of equality is that?
Though, you have much respect for standing by your opinion.
You're flooding the CTFG with threads at this point. The threads moved are worthy of both titles, and the CTFG has enough activity as it stands. You are correct, many users dislike the CTFG, but the CTFG contains threads that have no "second option" to call home. Threads with a "second option" should probably go to that place unless the CTFG gets 2 pages worth of threads per page. (Seriously, keeping up with all of it is impossible.)
Though, you have much respect for standing by your opinion.
You're flooding the CTFG with threads at this point. The threads moved are worthy of both titles, and the CTFG has enough activity as it stands. You are correct, many users dislike the CTFG, but the CTFG contains threads that have no "second option" to call home. Threads with a "second option" should probably go to that place unless the CTFG gets 2 pages worth of threads per page. (Seriously, keeping up with all of it is impossible.)
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Hobogunner wrote...
Hold on. 2 users complaining is greater than about 10 who want it moved back? What sense of equality is that?Though, you have much respect for standing by your opinion.
You're flooding the CTFG with threads at this point. The threads moved are worthy of both titles, and the CTFG has enough activity as it stands. You are correct, many users dislike the CTFG, but the CTFG contains threads that have no "second option" to call home. Threads with a "second option" should probably go to that place unless the CTFG gets 2 pages worth of threads per page. (Seriously, keeping up with all of it is impossible.)
Greater? Are you saying majority should rule? You understand this isn't a democratic election where you, the people get to decide what's best for this website. I wasn't voted into office, I was "hired" by the owner because he trusts me to do the job. I don't believe a larger number of people indicate it's the greater good.
The threads with a "second option" go where the moderators believe they should go. I don't understand why them not being on the first page hurts them. You do realize the thread is going to see a ridiculous increase in foot traffic now that it's in the most popular section on the forums. If a user really wants to follow the thread the section wont matter.
You still have not given me a reason to put anything back, your feelings just aren't enough.
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Waar wrote...
Hobogunner wrote...
Spoiler:
Greater? Are you saying majority should rule? You understand this isn't a democratic election where you, the people get to decide what's best for this website. I wasn't voted into office, I was "hired" by the owner because he trusts me to do the job. I don't believe a larger number of people indicate it's the greater good.
The threads with a "second option" go where the moderators believe they should go. I don't understand why them not being on the first page hurts them. You do realize the thread is going to see a ridiculous increase in foot traffic now that it's in the most popular section on the forums. If a user really wants to follow the thread the section wont matter.
You still have not given me a reason to put anything back, your feelings just aren't enough.
And I cannot because you hold the greater power and are blinded by your view on the issue.
I never said this was a democracy, and I am well aware you have your role because you are believe to be capable of such duties.
This isn't an issue to you, but it is to other users. You did what you thought was right, and that is all that can be done. I'm not going to cry to a higher power about it, I could post on the front page if I wanted to get this issue out.
I was just hoping you could give me a better reason than "my opinion was to move it" just as you wanted a better reason from me.