[Locked] Debate on Moving and Merging of Threads (Former Title: Paul)
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You know, I was scared of the ban hammer before, but upon realizing how stupid Waar truly is.....I've stopped caring.
Conclusion of thread:
The only thing that matters is what Waar says. That is all.
Conclusion of thread:
The only thing that matters is what Waar says. That is all.
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Longevity wrote...
Pretty sure Paul already answered why he did it, why is this still open? Also Waar you always say "Use PM's" why not this time?All ive seen is him saying i did it because i thought it was right and because i can, not why i think that decision is right.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Anesthetize wrote...
So what happens if we get another global mod to move it?And if you didn't care about opinions then why're you here trying to defend yourself from such opinions of users? You don't care about opinions on the matters concerning your moderating decisions, but you obviously care about the opinions the community has on you as a moderator and person. If you don't justify yourself it's only natural things like this are going to occur.
I would probably move it back until I spoke with Jake, this became a bigger issue when you made the feedback threads and some users decided to take it upon themselves to remake the thread.
I don't have to justify myself, but I also don't want to be called a despot. As crazy as it sounds I do want people to think I do my job properly. I won't give up my values or anything like that but all I have to do to convince some of you that I'm not total shit is explain myself I am willing to do so. Contrary to popular belief I don't enjoy being hated, I'm just not willing to act differently to avoid it.
Hobo: You honestly think I would ban someone for expressing their opinion? You called me stupid?
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Anesthetize wrote...
Longevity wrote...
Pretty sure Paul already answered why he did it, why is this still open? Also Waar you always say "Use PM's" why not this time?All ive seen is him saying i did it because i thought it was right and because i can, not why i think that decision is right.
That is the only and final reason. "I did it because I can." is what his argument was, and seeing as how he has a higher power, nothing can be done of it. Which was his main point for everything else.
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Antw0n
Remember me?
Alright, now Waar is just flexing his mod-dick.
There was no reason to move the thread, it was a badass thread and was doing perfectly fine where it was.
Whoever the faggot was that reported it, needs to go take a bath in some acid.
Put it back plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Waar-kun
There was no reason to move the thread, it was a badass thread and was doing perfectly fine where it was.
Whoever the faggot was that reported it, needs to go take a bath in some acid.
Put it back plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Waar-kun
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Anesthetize wrote...
Longevity wrote...
Pretty sure Paul already answered why he did it, why is this still open? Also Waar you always say "Use PM's" why not this time?All ive seen is him saying i did it because i thought it was right and because i can, not why i think that decision is right.
Have mods ever had to have a reason to do something? No. Do you think they need to explain themselves to us? No. Just let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be there will be an answer, let it be.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
I moved it because "rate my" threads go in CTFG, and because it could be spammed for post count.
Ive said so multiple times.
Ive said so multiple times.
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Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
So what happens if we get another global mod to move it?And if you didn't care about opinions then why're you here trying to defend yourself from such opinions of users? You don't care about opinions on the matters concerning your moderating decisions, but you obviously care about the opinions the community has on you as a moderator and person. If you don't justify yourself it's only natural things like this are going to occur.
I would probably move it back until I spoke with Jake, this became a bigger issue when you made the feedback threads and some users decided to take it upon themselves to remake the thread.
I don't have to justify myself, but I also don't want to be called a despot. As crazy as it sounds I do want people to think I do my job properly. I won't give up my values or anything like that but all I have to do to convince some of you that I'm not total shit is explain myself I am willing to do so. Contrary to popular belief I don't enjoy being hated, I'm just not willing to act differently to avoid it.
So wait Jacob said that he agreed with the decision?
You don't have to justify yourself but like i said, don't expect users to take a leap of faith in agreeing with you when you don't. Especially if you don't want to stigmatize yourself as a despot, your statement just seems contradictory.
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Antw0n
Remember me?
Waar wrote...
because it could be spammed for post count.Why does it matter?
No one cares about anyone else's post count.
It's not like post count means anything besides the worthless "Elite" and "Elder" titles.
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I have great respect for you paul, as a user and a moderator. For the few years i've known you on this forum, i've come to trust your judgement on most things. However you could've handled this situation better, as it stands i feel let down and disappointed by the way you've acted.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Anesthetize wrote...
Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
So what happens if we get another global mod to move it?And if you didn't care about opinions then why're you here trying to defend yourself from such opinions of users? You don't care about opinions on the matters concerning your moderating decisions, but you obviously care about the opinions the community has on you as a moderator and person. If you don't justify yourself it's only natural things like this are going to occur.
I would probably move it back until I spoke with Jake, this became a bigger issue when you made the feedback threads and some users decided to take it upon themselves to remake the thread.
I don't have to justify myself, but I also don't want to be called a despot. As crazy as it sounds I do want people to think I do my job properly. I won't give up my values or anything like that but all I have to do to convince some of you that I'm not total shit is explain myself I am willing to do so. Contrary to popular belief I don't enjoy being hated, I'm just not willing to act differently to avoid it.
So wait Jacob said that he agreed with the decision?
You don't have to justify yourself but like i said, don't expect users to take a leap of faith in agreeing with you when you don't. Especially if you don't want to stigmatize yourself as a despot, your statement just seems contradictory.
If Jake says it goes back into the music section then it goes back, Ive never gone against any of his decisions even if I don't agree with him, this is his website. You can look up the girls club drama form a while back for reference.
I don't expect different, any time I do something I think will be unpopular I know what will most likely happen. It would be nice if the users loved me and I could do my job as I see fit(like gambler) but I don't do things the way others want. As I said, I don't want to be hated I simply wont sacrifice what I believe in for the sake of being loved. Ive known and accepted it for a very long time now. I have made friends over it, a few users have seen some partial sanity in my actions and I do consider most of them friends now it's just a shame the rest see me as the reincarnation of Hitler.
Antw0n wrote...
Waar wrote...
because it could be spammed for post count.Why does it matter?
No one cares about anyone else's post count.
It's not like post count means anything besides the worthless "Elite" and "Elder" titles.
Because there's a rule against it.
Anesthetize wrote...
I have great respect for you paul, as a user and a moderator. For the few years i've known you on this forum, i've come to trust your judgement on most things. However you could've handled this situation better, as it stands i feel let down and disappointed by the way you've acted.That is a shame, it was not my intention. I however cannot change what I think to be right in this situation. As sorry as I am to lose some respect I would hate myself more if I did things differently than my way.
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Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
So what happens if we get another global mod to move it?And if you didn't care about opinions then why're you here trying to defend yourself from such opinions of users? You don't care about opinions on the matters concerning your moderating decisions, but you obviously care about the opinions the community has on you as a moderator and person. If you don't justify yourself it's only natural things like this are going to occur.
I would probably move it back until I spoke with Jake, this became a bigger issue when you made the feedback threads and some users decided to take it upon themselves to remake the thread.
I don't have to justify myself, but I also don't want to be called a despot. As crazy as it sounds I do want people to think I do my job properly. I won't give up my values or anything like that but all I have to do to convince some of you that I'm not total shit is explain myself I am willing to do so. Contrary to popular belief I don't enjoy being hated, I'm just not willing to act differently to avoid it.
So wait Jacob said that he agreed with the decision?
You don't have to justify yourself but like i said, don't expect users to take a leap of faith in agreeing with you when you don't. Especially if you don't want to stigmatize yourself as a despot, your statement just seems contradictory.
If Jake says it goes back into the music section then it goes back, Ive never gone against any of his decisions even if I don't agree with him, this is his website. You can look up the girls club drama form a while back for reference.
I don't expect different, any time I do something I think will be unpopular I know what will most likely happen. It would be nice if the users loved me and I could do my job as I see fit(like gambler) but I don't do things the way others want. As I said, I don't want to be hated I simply wont sacrifice what I believe in for the sake of being loved. Ive known and accepted it for a very long time now. I have made friends over it, a few users have seen some partial sanity in my actions and I do consider most of them friends now it's just a shame the rest see me as the reincarnation of Hitler.
Antw0n wrote...
Waar wrote...
because it could be spammed for post count.Why does it matter?
No one cares about anyone else's post count.
It's not like post count means anything besides the worthless "Elite" and "Elder" titles.
Because there's a rule against it.
What would make more sense is if you just consult tsujoi and gambler about it. If they're fine with the action then we simply can't argue anything more.
However the thread was initially moved because of post grieving concerns but was moved back because i convinced gambler otherwise.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Anesthetize wrote...
Spoiler:
What would make more sense is if you just consult tsujoi and gambler about it. If they're fine with the action then we simply can't argue anything more.
However the thread was initially moved because of post grieving concerns but was moved back because i convinced gambler otherwise.
Because if it is a debate between global mods (tegumi included) I don't believe we will come to an understanding, and because I don't believe seniority matters when we're all the same rank I would want Jacob to deal with it. If anything Jacob is less likely to agree with me than say Matt or Mike, who both think more moderation is in order most of the time.
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Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
Spoiler:
What would make more sense is if you just consult tsujoi and gambler about it. If they're fine with the action then we simply can't argue anything more.
However the thread was initially moved because of post grieving concerns but was moved back because i convinced gambler otherwise.
Because if it is a debate between global mods (tegumi included) I don't believe we will come to an understanding, and because I don't believe seniority matters when we're all the same rank I would want Jacob to deal with it. If anything Jacob is less likely to agree with me than say Matt or Mike, who both think more moderation is in order most of the time.
Still can't hurt to try even so, presumption seems like a weak excuse.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Anesthetize wrote...
Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
Spoiler:
What would make more sense is if you just consult tsujoi and gambler about it. If they're fine with the action then we simply can't argue anything more.
However the thread was initially moved because of post grieving concerns but was moved back because i convinced gambler otherwise.
Because if it is a debate between global mods (tegumi included) I don't believe we will come to an understanding, and because I don't believe seniority matters when we're all the same rank I would want Jacob to deal with it. If anything Jacob is less likely to agree with me than say Matt or Mike, who both think more moderation is in order most of the time.
Still can't hurt to try even so, presumption seems like a weak excuse.
hrmm? I dont get it, are you suggesting they would change their minds and agree with me or I would be convinced by them? To be perfectly honest I dont think Tsujoi cares and I don't see eye to eye with gambler... ever. I'm not unwilling, I just don't see it ending well.
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Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
Waar wrote...
Anesthetize wrote...
Spoiler:
What would make more sense is if you just consult tsujoi and gambler about it. If they're fine with the action then we simply can't argue anything more.
However the thread was initially moved because of post grieving concerns but was moved back because i convinced gambler otherwise.
Because if it is a debate between global mods (tegumi included) I don't believe we will come to an understanding, and because I don't believe seniority matters when we're all the same rank I would want Jacob to deal with it. If anything Jacob is less likely to agree with me than say Matt or Mike, who both think more moderation is in order most of the time.
Still can't hurt to try even so, presumption seems like a weak excuse.
hrmm? I dont get it, are you suggesting they would change their minds and agree with me or I would be convinced by them? To be perfectly honest I dont think Tsujoi cares and I don't see eye to eye with gambler... ever. I'm not unwilling, I just don't see it ending well.
It's up to you. You can either talk to Jacob or do that.
The latter is the more humanitarian and ethical approach if i would say so myself though.
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Dont hit me in the face, but let me get this straight from my understanding.
Waar here, Moved Rate the song above 3.5, because of a report. Because Waar can, he moved the topic from music to CTFG. Hobogunner doesent like it and from the looks of it other people too (including me).
So, i have a question.
Did Waar move the topic without trying to understand the topic itself, OR he moved it because he can and his way of thinking is overrules another.
If its first, then its a mistake. Accidents happen.
But if its second, no offence, but youre a self righteous prick.
And you deserve this if it is the second one.
Not that it matters.
This is my opinion of this at the current moment. Besides. There is a phrase.
Waar here, Moved Rate the song above 3.5, because of a report. Because Waar can, he moved the topic from music to CTFG. Hobogunner doesent like it and from the looks of it other people too (including me).
So, i have a question.
Did Waar move the topic without trying to understand the topic itself, OR he moved it because he can and his way of thinking is overrules another.
If its first, then its a mistake. Accidents happen.
But if its second, no offence, but youre a self righteous prick.
And you deserve this if it is the second one.
Hobogunner wrote...
Gamblers a cool dude, you're a dick. There's a difference. I have respect for Gambler. I have very little for you. In fact, Gambler was the one that moved my thread that you put back.Not that it matters.
Spoiler:
This is my opinion of this at the current moment. Besides. There is a phrase.
Power corrupts.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
We're waiting, also if the decision comes and it stays in CTFG, I'll be more than happy to make another version of the thread, I'm sure not only me but all these people too.