[Locked] FAKKU State of the Union 2016

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Romana FAKKU Letterer
RozenLetter wrote...
Doxy lived in the states where he grew his fandom from MLP stuff from the states... and he's in japan on a visitors visa i believe so of course he can support himself he has the support from years of work. Can you say the same for 50% of other artists they can't really do that.


I don't understand where you're getting at here. You were given a Western artist who shows there's a market, and you want to make it not count since they're successful?

Erotic comics have always had a market here in the US, and not just on the Furry or the anime/doujinshi market. Look at stuff like Barbarella, the majority of the stuff Last Gasp publishes, Alan Moore's Lost Girls, Milo Manara, Elementals (Bill Willingham), all of HEAVY METAL, and that's not even mentioning the successful kickstarters I've seen recently.

Doxy is a success story of an independent artists making it big without ever being published by a company, but don't think publishers aren't publishing erotic comics, and don't think the big names of the comic industry aren't writing them.

People can claim that "no one pays for porn", but you also have to realize these are also comics. That gives them a different sort of value to a particular type of collector and reader, and I can guarantee you most any adult comic fan has stumbled across erotic comics at some point.
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Romana wrote...
RozenLetter wrote...
Doxy lived in the states where he grew his fandom from MLP stuff from the states... and he's in japan on a visitors visa i believe so of course he can support himself he has the support from years of work. Can you say the same for 50% of other artists they can't really do that.


I don't understand where you're getting at here. You were given a Western artist who shows there's a market, and you want to make it not count since they're successful?

Erotic comics have always had a market here in the US, and not just on the Furry or the anime/doujinshi market. Look at stuff like Barbarella, the majority of the stuff Last Gasp publishes, Alan Moore's Lost Girls, Milo Manara, Elementals (Bill Willingham), all of HEAVY METAL, and that's not even mentioning the successful kickstarters I've seen recently.

Doxy is a success story of an independent artists making it big without ever being published by a company, but don't think publishers aren't publishing erotic comics, and don't think the big names of the comic industry aren't writing them.

People can claim that "no one pays for porn", but you also have to realize these are also comics. That gives them a different sort of value to a particular type of collector and reader, and I can guarantee you most any adult comic fan has stumbled across erotic comics at some point.


Doxy doesn't count because he came from the west to the east im talking about the opposite. There is a market here but its not big if it was there would be more publishing sites like fakku but there aren't.
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RozenLetter wrote...

Doxy lived in the states where he grew his fandom from MLP stuff from the states... and he's in japan on a visitors visa i believe so of course he can support himself he has the support from years of work. Can you say the same for 50% of other artists they can't really do that.


Actually, Doxy grew his fame in the furry community. Doxy goes by another name: Onta. He's been a member of the furry community for years. He runs HardBlush and WetBlush, both subscription based services for furry porn contributed by a number of artists.

He's done some anthologies such as :
https://www.doujinshi.info/book/minnano-renamon-y100

And has released a number of his self-published books/doujinshi in both the US and Japan.
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blackice85 FAKKU! Gold
Kisuka wrote...
Hanayome wrote...
Kisuka wrote...
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I actually wonder how profitable the western market is.
I think a lot of people would've assumed it would've gone bad because people generally don't like paying for porn.


People do pay for porn. Porn would not be as large an industry if they did not. In terms of like, western artists producing art for money, I can tell you it's VERY profitable. Take the furry fandom for example. A popular furry artist can make up to $300 ~ $500 per commission, which is typically 18+ art work.

I feel the vast majority of people online have disillusioned themselves into thinking that absolutely no one with an internet connection pays for porn.

People pay for what they love / have a passion for.

People that are passionate about anime, typically will buy merchandise and DVDs/BDs.

People that are passionate about figures will buy figures.

People that are passionate about gaming buy games.

People that are passionate about a particular artist or an art form will pay for that art.

To assume just because there's so much porn online available for free automatically means no one pays for porn is a very seriously false accusation.


It's almost like the people who come into this thread to bitch don't know what the hell they're talking about. If no one paid for porn, there soon wouldn't be any new material coming out anymore.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
cantbancause10minmail wrote...
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I love it when lurkers come in and complain about stuff, despite knowing nothing about what they're complaining about. It's good times, makes for a good meme
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Drifter995 wrote...
cantbancause10minmail wrote...
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I love it when lurkers come in and complain about stuff, despite knowing nothing about what they're complaining about. It's good times, makes for a good meme


Agreed. The subscription has been live for over 6 months and we've been selling books for almost 2 years. It's time for some people to move on.
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muzicfreq One tired person
Jacob
Bring in a list of artists and you would have me for life

  • Ishikei

  • Kensoh Ogawa

  • Kon-Kit

  • Minazuki(Gerupin)

  • Koyanagi Royal

  • Shiden Akira

  • Shindol

  • Tsukino Jyogi

  • John K Peta


Other than that while I do support the move and warming up a bit more to it, I still cannot bring myself to do it just yet. Keep up the good work though
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@Kisuka
Can we (I?) get an Update on the Bank transfer method?
I don't see it in the payment methods for subscription..
Was kinda exited there....
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blackice85 FAKKU! Gold
Jacob wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
cantbancause10minmail wrote...
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I love it when lurkers come in and complain about stuff, despite knowing nothing about what they're complaining about. It's good times, makes for a good meme


Agreed. The subscription has been live for over 6 months and we've been selling books for almost 2 years. It's time for some people to move on.


Where are those people who said you'd be out of business within 6 months because not enough people would pay and you should just make all your money from ads, even though 90% of users have an adblocker?
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Jacob wrote...
It's time for some people to move on.


They do.

That doesn't stop it from being scummy though. Its like breaking up with a shitty cheating ex; sure you move on, but that shitty cheating ex is still as scummy as ever.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
snowplow123 wrote...
Jacob wrote...
It's time for some people to move on.


They do.

That doesn't stop it from being scummy though. Its like breaking up with a shitty cheating ex; sure you move on, but that shitty cheating ex is still as scummy as ever.


I think it's more like those 'moving on' are the cheating ex. Scummy, cheating, but whinge that they are the victim, when clearly they aren't.

It's also blindingly obvious that people aren't moving on, because of accounts such as yours, and the alts where they come purely to whinge about something that is now 6 months old, and was announced years prior to becoming a thing. Your own ignorance through lack of care isn't a reason to be salty
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Drifter995 wrote...
isn't a reason to be salty


Yes it is.

I lost $150 on an anti-consumer monopoly masquerading as a small company. The knowledge that I contributed to this travesty makes me ill and full of regret.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
snowplow123 wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
isn't a reason to be salty


Yes it is.

I lost $150 on an anti-consumer monopoly masquerading as a small company. The knowledge that I contributed to this travesty makes me ill and full of regret.


It's really not. If you're supposedly a fan/ follower of something, you don't go out on a limb and just randomly make baseless accusations, despite information being right under your nose telling you the whole story the entire time, which you clearly ignored, then decided to throw claims of conspiracy around purely because you didn't read anything.
90% of the people who are salty complain about things explained multiple times many many months prior to the transition, during the transition and post transition. Including why, how and when. And then they come in and complain that it happened suddenly, and it's just a cash grab, when it really isn't.
You calling it an anti-consumer monopoly just shows how little you know about the circumstances and how salty you are. You really should know the facts before you go off and throw mad tantrums.

Even more so, you're going against yourself saying that people are getting over it, by you staying here being salty
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Drifter995 wrote...

You really should know the facts before you go off and throw mad tantrums.

Even more so, you're going against yourself saying that people are getting over it, by you staying here being salty


I do know the facts, which is the entire reason I'm here.

My penance is to warn others of this site so they do not make the same mistakes I did.
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snowplow123 wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...

You really should know the facts before you go off and throw mad tantrums.

Even more so, you're going against yourself saying that people are getting over it, by you staying here being salty


I do know the facts, which is the entire reason I'm here.

My penance is to warn others of this site so they do not make the same mistakes I did.


You do not know any facts, which has been made clear by your posts. And if you keep shitposting like you have been you will be banned.
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beeEAZY Raep Horse
Jacob wrote...
snowplow123 wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...

You really should know the facts before you go off and throw mad tantrums.

Even more so, you're going against yourself saying that people are getting over it, by you staying here being salty


I do know the facts, which is the entire reason I'm here.

My penance is to warn others of this site so they do not make the same mistakes I did.


You do not know any facts, which has been made clear by your posts. And if you keep shitposting like you have been you will be banned.

The attempted slandering is real m8 and sadly a bad attempt at it.
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Drifter995 Neko//Night
beeEAZY wrote...
Jacob wrote...
snowplow123 wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...

You really should know the facts before you go off and throw mad tantrums.

Even more so, you're going against yourself saying that people are getting over it, by you staying here being salty


I do know the facts, which is the entire reason I'm here.

My penance is to warn others of this site so they do not make the same mistakes I did.


You do not know any facts, which has been made clear by your posts. And if you keep shitposting like you have been you will be banned.

The attempted slandering is real m8 and sadly a bad attempt at it.


que
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we want free!

or this will become shit website with paid stuff.

freedom to all user!
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
heavenknight wrote...
we want free!

or this will become shit website with paid stuff.

freedom to all user!


Google-fu. You lack it.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
heavenknight wrote...
we want free!

or this will become shit website with paid stuff.

freedom to all user!


Google-fu. You lack it.


But that requires work. Work, I don't wanna do!!