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As was I. It was a truely moving game.

they're working on the CLANNAD translation, not Tomoyo After translation.

For the impatient, a translation patch (a SEEN.txt) was leaked (or compiled I should say) a while ago by some dudes on HongFire from the BakaTsuki translations. It's certainly far from perfect with grammar errors, Engrish, letter spacing problems, etc, but it's completely understandable.

As for the paths, I have to say that it's some what disappointing. Not really true to the games title (Clannad = family), most of the girls' paths were generic bishoujo love crap I found quite boring. There was one that was quite sweet (Yukine's) and Tomoyo's path digressed into and odd-yet-lovable-couple-struggling-with-societal-views story that became quite interesting. I suppose the best of Clannad comes from After Story, a giant epilogue of sorts that tells Nagisa's and Tomoya's struggles of living as a couple on their own. This is where the family theme in Clannad really shines through.

I've heard bad things about Tomoyo After, but given the 5 h-scenes with Tomoyo, I'll be eagerly awaiting the translation. But given, the speed of the translation at this point, I think it'd be faster just to learn Japanese. OTL

Edit: I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting these...

HongFire compiled SEEN.txt of Clannad: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77237

^I'm not sure if the one in the first post updated for After Story. I know there's one compiled by another guy somewhere in the thread.

BakaTsuki (home of the translations for Clannad, Tomoyo After, and lots of other stuff): http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Main_Page

I want to watch Clannad now! D:

... :shock:

what a shocker. That was too damn hot! Can't wait for the H^^

On a side that lets you download adult manga. :roll:

Hey, look: I've been with this anime industry for the last decade in a half. The last "good, moving" story I saw was Miyazaki's "Mononoke Hime."

Me being the minority here is just sad and frightening, though. I can't enjoy what you people call "a good story" when I have "reverse domestic violence for the sake of comedy" running in the back of my head. It's been like that since the early 90's.

And every time someone defends a show like Clannad; throwing all types of excuses why they believe what I say is wrong, I add another "ryonna / belly-punch KO" video to my YouTube favorites. There's got to be an end to this garbage somewhere.

By the way, does this post possess some hope for Fakku getting us more (quality) Clannad h-doujins? Because I sure as hell can't find any.

Since when is a glutton-for-punishment repeatedly challenging someone stronger than himself Domestic Violence?


You must have added a lot of videos to your favorites then. Anyway, 95% of anime/manga/etc. is garbage.

I see. I haven't really played that many bishoujo games yet, and I see what you mean by 'boring generic bishoujo love crap'. I've only played the Misae, Tomoyo, and Yukine arcs, and am in the middle of the Fujibayashi twins arcs, but I decided to play Tomoyo After first. So you could say I've experienced the best the Clannad game had to offer so far, and I like it. Granted, it's not epic and incredible the way Fate/Stay Night was, but it's a nice one to open up and play after an eventful day.


I seriously doubt anyone really knows much about this game at this point. Looking at the walkthrough I found yesterday, I think you're hearing it from people who just randomly picked choices without understanding anything that was going on, and getting bad ends. Seems like there's a "true end", and, although I don't want to sound like I'm very sure because I'm not, it doesn't look like it's gonna be that depressing.


Heh. I have a lot of the older ones, but they really aren't anything spectacular. They'd probably be translated by us by now if they were worth it. XD As for the newer ones, well, you guys probably know better than I do.

But, to be honest, I don't think most of the Clannad girls are suitable to be in doujins. =S


Loled. Also, lrn2english.
I'm running a "side"! XD

TakaJun didn't like it. The people who can understand moon speak (or at least pretend to) over at Gemot didn't like it either. It doesn't matter really, though. In the end, you're better off finding out for yourself.

You guys should play "Tomoyo After", the conflict between each character will surely move you. Each character has its own problem to life. Tomo's story was surely touching, it made me cry in happiness. Takafumi and Kanoko story is still interesting. Tomoyo and Tomoya's story revolves in both stories. The H-scenes are just bonuses, but I'm still missing one scene, although I got the true ending without any kind of help. Won't spoil it, you guys have to play it for yourselves. :D

EDIT: I forgot. I haven't finished all mini RPG in "Dungeons and Takafumi" no wonder I haven't got the last H-scene. -_-;

Nice one there, Raze, reducing at least somewhat meaningful dialectic to elitism. I'd hate to see how you'd respond to actual trolls.

With that out of the way, I watched a fair amount of the Clannad show (I got distracted by other things and it is currently on my to-watch list), and I must say that it was entertaining and pretty good. Not great. And it was very noticeable that it was based on a game by Key. Again, not a bad thing, but Key does tend to be repetitive. I'd be glad to hear arguments for their brilliant creativity, but it was never something I felt they were particularly good at. Now what they have been good at, and which I felt was best shown in Kanon (especially in the 2006 TV remake), was manipulating your emotions as if you were a puppet, if you were able to get into the characters. I have friends who couldn't relate to the characters nor empathize with them at all, and thus did not like the show. But some of my friends, as well as myself, found ourselves BAWWWING after the last episode.

Japanese culture isn't some objective monolithic structure that bears the hallmarks of right or wrong. We can apply literary perspective and critique, but it will only get us as far as it can in any other medium. But let's use a little bit of it at least, rather than throwing around the "you're an idiot because you made some typographical errors in an otherwise fairly cogent argument" line.

I don't get these type of games. sorry but it seems pretty boring was never into that kind of game. Allot of dialog that bored the hell out of me, only good thing is, Hell is out of me hahaha

So you want me to rip his extremely weak argument apart? Fine with me.

On a side that lets you download adult manga.

What's wrong with talking about Tomoyo After on FAKKU? Has it not been clear to you that, while the main binding force for us here is indeed hentai, we want to be more than just a generic hentai site? And, if I may say something, people might actually be interested in this stuff, hence my very rough but acceptable translation of a passage of the game to share with those who might actually enjoy it.

Hey, look: I've been with this anime industry for the last decade in a half. The last "good, moving" story I saw was Miyazaki's "Mononoke Hime."

So what? Does it mean we have to agree with you? No.

Me being the minority here is just sad and frightening, though. I can't enjoy what you people call "a good story" when I have "reverse domestic violence for the sake of comedy" running in the back of my head. It's been like that since the early 90's.

Clannad is not the type of story that's supposed to thrill. It's not something that's supposed to jerk your tears out like Hotaru no Haka. It's simply something that's supposed to be subtly beautiful. Yes, it might not be the most realistic thing in the world, but that really shouldn't detract from enjoying it. And, like I said before, if the perhaps excessive use of Sunohara in the game (which I do agree on to a certain extent) affected you a lot, then fine. It's no reason for you to call the entire thing garbage just because of one little thing like that. And oh, some people might actually like the comedy?

And every time someone defends a show like Clannad; throwing all types of excuses why they believe what I say is wrong, I add another "ryonna / belly-punch KO" video to my YouTube favorites. There's got to be an end to this garbage somewhere.

Go ahead. No one's stopping you, and frankly, no one cares.

I hope you're satisfied. Two reasons I didn't tear him apart straight away.

1) I couldn't be bothered to write that much. It wasn't worth it.
2) His method of speech screamed of bigotry so I decided to respond to him in a trollish manner.

Key's merit, as you yourself stated, is to pull on your emotions, which I feel Clannad does a good job on. Not the art (although I love the art in Tomoyo After), nor the setting (the rather unremarkable and overused classroom setting), nor the heroines (yes, Kyou and Tomoyo are wonderful, but they really don't have much standing against the big shots such as Kousaka Tamaki and Rin Tosaka). So why not enjoy what they do best and let yourself be emotionally swayed? And, I acknowledge the fact people are different, so if it doesn't affect you, fine. It's really quite pointless to use literary criticism to analyze this sort of stuff in the first place when their purpose is to simply appeal; it's pop culture, and not some elite art form. So if you don't like it, fine. There's no need to call it garbage, and denounce everyone who likes it at the same time.

I have to say, CLANNAD is one of the best games I have on this computer. I've only done the Misae arc and the Tomoyo arc, but that's okay since Nagisa is a tool. To the obvious troll: If you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.

Lovely find. Yes, I barely post, but I eagerly wait more on the series spotlight. Clannad was a refreshing show for me. I got tired of failure shows of too much action and needed something slow to pass the time. Gotta stop and smell the starfish ne? Instead of using the Magellanic Clouds as shurikens. Yes, TTGL, I'm looking at you. Boring piece of work. =.=

Whoops, too much Haruhi makes me stupid :P I am ashamed...

Hey; I have a better idea:

Show me that paragraph or set of paragraphs in this web page's rules that specifically state somewhere along the lines of, "You do not have the right to a 180-degrees, alternate opinion on something that's a favorite to nearly everybody." Then I will gladly silence myself and mind my own business.

No. I'm just gonna take back everything else I said, thank those who worked hard here, and just say this:

Clannad would be a whole lot better if Youhei didn't have the snot beatened out of him. Either that, or have him defeat Tomoyo every other episode.