Maitetsu Fixes and Updates

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Tirigon Loli aficionado
grgspunk wrote...


In the videogame industry, the developer is subordinate to the publisher, not the other way around. .


Not in this case though, because it seems Lose aren't too interested in having Maitetsu available in the West.


saroth wrote...
Malamasala wrote...
We get porn scenes, but have the ecchi scenes censored. Makes no sense and can only have been done to infuriate customers and belittle their intelligence.


At first this didn't seem to make any sense to me either, but after seeing how Lose designs their H content (it's generally not integrated into the story - you just unlock H-scenes after finishing a route) there may be some reasoning behind this (dubious though it may be). I think most people who appreciate H will appreciate the presence of ecchi scenes in the story, but from a developer's perspective they then need to make one version of the story with ecchi content, and one without (since the H is after the story, so that's just a matter of unlocking some menus); so perhaps they decided that it's better to just have a "clean" story, with everything ecchi or H unlocked at the very end. That would slightly reduce dev costs and supposedly allow people to buy the full version even if they're on the fence about ecchi stuff. Considering that all-ages versions of games tend to come out much later than the initial H release this could theoretically allow some extra day-one purchases from people who don't want ecchi but also don't want to wait a year. As previously mentioned it's a dubious argument at best, but the only one I could think of that makes any sort of sense.


I think this actually makes a ton of sense.... for Lose's FUTURE games. But going back and censoring the adult version of a game that already has both its R18 and an all ages release? That is just stupid, and doesn't save them work like you suggested because they ALREADY DID THAT WORK YEARS AGO.
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Tirigon wrote...
I think this actually makes a ton of sense.... for Lose's FUTURE games. But going back and censoring the adult version of a game that already has both its R18 and an all ages release? That is just stupid, and doesn't save them work like you suggested because they ALREADY DID THAT WORK YEARS AGO.


The OP mentioned a future release, so if they do a new release of Maitetsu (e.g. with some DLC included, as Lose seems to be hinting at with the afterstory) then for the purposes of branch management and QA it is essentially a new game. Whether or not this is actually the case, though, I don't know. Just trying to figure out some plausible reason that doesn't sound as if the heat wave in JP made them go insane.
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Welp, after this debacle it looks like getting the Monobeno games uncut is going to be a pipe dream. No fan group will touch them, considering their complexity and length. Feels bad man.
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Well... This is horribly dissapointing, I was really looking foward to buy this game, and as much as I want to play it I just can't support this kind or any kind of censorship, specially when the whole marketing for this game was about how it was going to be the FULL version.

I feel really bad but I guess this is yet another VN I will not get over censorship.
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grgspunk wrote...
Sekai Project already has a questionable reputation in the VN community thanks to numerous controversies stemming from their poor localizations and confrontational staff members. By agreeing to publish this game and profiting off of this release, Fakku automatically assumes responsibility for any issues that Sekai Project creates with this release.

If Fakku wanted to avoid putting their name on the line, they should've known better than to be Sekai Project's publisher.

Fakku isn't the publisher. It literally says so in the first line of the OP. They're just the distributor.
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You know what I also wanted to mention something I was a bit disappointed with by Fakku's advertising itself, Fakku should be using loli characters to advertise this lolige, not the one female side character who doesn't have nearly as much focus. Why not advertise the game with Hachiroku herself? She's the main girl and the pivotal character in this VN as well as the one with the most 18+ CG. It just reminds Me that even these hentai/porn companies are too scared to advertise loli to people even if the product they are selling is essentially a loli focused game. I personally felt like it was a bit of a cop out to advertise this lolige then use another generic busty girl.

Like advertise the game with this main cutie more and You might have got more sales as well, since loli VNs are quite rarely translated.
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Reminds me a little how TERA avoided Elins for over a year in promotional material because "What if people don't like lolis?". Then in the end half their playerbase were playing Elin because they all wanted a game with exactly that content. Needless to say the entire game was saved thanks to fans talking to eachother and not helped at all by the publishers who avoided promoting the biggest selling point of the game to the majority of interested customers.

Well, if companies do not want sales, they don't have to promote their most promising content.
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Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566
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dark494 wrote...
Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566
Well dang, that sucks for them, but I honestly don't feel bad for them, I'd rather VNs not be brought over to the US with poor quality and if they're trying to reshape the company then maybe it'll be for the better, they could learn a thing or two anyway about better localization, efficiency, and public relations.
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dark494 wrote...
Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566


It looks like it was just the marketing/PR team, while I feel bad for the parties involved hopefully this does lead to more transparency between Sekai and consumers and less of the bait and switch feelings and lack of info regarding critical game bugs and status on their fixing. Again it sucks that they were fired but I think new talent is in order for the company.
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Sergster1 wrote...
dark494 wrote...
Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566


It looks like it was just the marketing/PR team, while I feel bad for the parties involved hopefully this does lead to more transparency between Sekai and consumers and less of the bait and switch feelings and lack of info regarding critical game bugs and status on their fixing. Again it sucks that they were fired but I think new talent is in order for the company.
I personally think more than just the marketing and PR team should go, I mean it sucks to get fired and all but they need better QA people and better management from how this whole debacle went down and how plenty of other failures from sekai project played out.
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Clone 10032 wrote...
dark494 wrote...
Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566
Well dang, that sucks for them, but I honestly don't feel bad for them


Literally my wife you're talking about who has to now find a new job. :/ I get that some of you dislike Sekai Project, but please don't turn this into a thread of personal attacks against people just because they worked at a specific company. These people who were let go had zero power over what decisions were made in regards to the actual localization process. They were simply trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities with the hands they were dealt.

This thread is about the Maitetsu fixes and updates, please do not make it go off-topic into a Sekai Project hate thread. That is not what this thread is for.
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Kisuka wrote...
Clone 10032 wrote...
dark494 wrote...
Speaking of Sekai Project, apparently they just laid off the entire office and closed down. Mysteriously.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566
Well dang, that sucks for them, but I honestly don't feel bad for them


Literally my wife you're talking about who has to now find a new job. :/ I get that some of you dislike Sekai Project, but please don't turn this into a thread of personal attacks against people just because they worked at a specific company. These people who were let go had zero power over what decisions were made in regards to the actual localization process. They were simply trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities with the hands they were dealt.

This thread is about the Maitetsu fixes and updates, please do not make it go off-topic into a Sekai Project hate thread. That is not what this thread is for.
That's not really a personal attack, but alright I won't say anything else about that.
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Kisuka wrote...
Literally my wife you're talking about who has to now find a new job. :/ I get that some of you dislike Sekai Project, but please don't turn this into a thread of personal attacks against people just because they worked at a specific company. These people who were let go had zero power over what decisions were made in regards to the actual localization process. They were simply trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities with the hands they were dealt.

This thread is about the Maitetsu fixes and updates, please do not make it go off-topic into a Sekai Project hate thread. That is not what this thread is for.

I'm sorry that your wife did a poor job, but you having a personal relationship with the person in question doesn't change that. Would we not be allowed to say anything bad about Dovac's handling of Maitetsu if his (hypothetical) wife were to show up here either?
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Tirigon Loli aficionado
I wonder if this has anything to do with the criticism over how badly they handled Maitetsu.

Most likely not, but one can't help wonder given the timing.
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Does there happen to be a forum where We can suggest actual good loli stuff to Fakku? Rather than this market just being random? If You want to sell loli VNs just ask lolicons what they want, that's my last point here.
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Clone 10032 wrote...
Does there happen to be a forum where We can suggest actual good loli stuff to Fakku? Rather than this market just being random? If You want to sell loli VNs just ask lolicons what they want, that's my last point here.

You can suggest content and provide feedback on what you think FAKKU should look into on the Feedback / Suggestions forum:
https://www.fakku.net/forums/feedback-suggestions-and-support

or via our contact form here:

https://www.fakku.net/contact

or via this topic:

https://www.fakku.net/forums/games/fakku-games-official-suggestion-topic
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Tirigon Loli aficionado
Just to let everyone know, the fanmade uncensor patch is almost done, should be final tomorrow.

Find it here: https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20789-maitetsu-18-demosaic-patch-wip/
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Tirigon wrote...
Just to let everyone know, the fanmade uncensor patch is almost done, should be final tomorrow.

Find it here: https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20789-maitetsu-18-demosaic-patch-wip/


This does not change anything on Fakku/SP/Lose's end. My point still stands. Not supporting this title.
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Tirigon Loli aficionado
grgspunk wrote...
Tirigon wrote...
Just to let everyone know, the fanmade uncensor patch is almost done, should be final tomorrow.

Find it here: https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20789-maitetsu-18-demosaic-patch-wip/


This does not change anything on Fakku/SP/Lose's end. My point still stands. Not supporting this title.


That's understandable in a way, but I also agree with what the developer said before: In spite of the issues it's great we got the game at all.

Besides, you're missing out on a great loli eroge, and with the patch I linked it's effectively a complete, uncensored port.
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