Maitetsu Fixes and Updates

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i dont know why but i feel like sekai project is killing the VN industry in the west.with its every VN release
Almost Every VN they release has some or the other controversial issues with it..and they dont even bother to fix it..Plus with what recently happened with Trample on schatten with the omitted scene etc along with This inevitable disaster , people are just losing interest in VNs altogether.. at-least this is what i feel is currently happening.
and Steam not approving VN releases is not helping either....the future looks grim for VNs in the west..and Sekai Project is right in the center of it all..
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Pinja wrote...
I think a lot of the outrage, at least for those who had already purchased the product, stems from "false advertising" rather than the end result itself (at least for me personally).


The anger is multilayered.

1) We get porn scenes, but have the ecchi scenes censored. Makes no sense and can only have been done to infuriate customers and belittle their intelligence.
2) Lose and Sekai never wanted to release anything but the all-ages game to begin with. It was threats of never buying from them again that made them even bother with discussing the 18+ version. So it is a version neither Lose nor Sekai cared about, and then they managed to "discuss and agree on a version they are both happy with". Shame that doesn't involve a single happy customer.
3) I don't understand how publishers of games can be so irresponsible that they never tell companies that "Oh this choice you made means we lose thousands of sales, is that OK with you?". Why would Lose ever agree to miss half their market due to censorship of scenes? It just can't be a choice they made aware and informed about the western market.
4) We wanted a proper product to show the world the market of loli games. Instead the opposition just gets an excuse to claim "See, loli games don't sell. Only sell big breasted girl games".

And we don't like where these things can lead. Lose might stop releasing western VNs because bad sales, all due to Sekai not telling them that fog scenes and bath towels are despised in the west. So we'd lose a whole franchise from Sekai's "don't care" attitude. Sekai may also use this as an excuse to never again listen to fans, because we don't buy their 18+ games even if we request them. So we might get all-ages games only from all the top tier japanese eroge companies.

Right now we are playing right into their hands if we don't buy the game. Because then they can do only all-ages Baldr Sky and claim there isn't an 18+ market. But if we buy the game, we also accept that they can replace the entire game with all-ages content and just add on HCG scenes as an appendix.
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Please Fakku, just localize and distribute Your own Loli VNs, You guys actually have quality assurance and You're not going to censor them just because it involves lolis. I'll buy any loli release from You if You do that, also if You can get some actually good loli doujins translated then that'd be great too, because I think in the very short time I was paying for translations and decensors I got more loli doujins done in 6 months then Fakku got done in a year, but that could also be because Fakku just doesn't advertise their loli tag at all.


Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones You have but I'm very fickle when it comes to hentai, I dislike a majority of it to begin with.
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Wildbreed wrote...
i dont know why but i feel like sekai project is killing the VN industry in the west.with its every VN release
Almost Every VN they release has some or the other controversial issues with it..and they dont even bother to fix it..Plus with what recently happened with Trample on schatten with the omitted scene etc along with This inevitable disaster , people are just losing interest in VNs altogether.. at-least this is what i feel is currently happening.
and Steam not approving VN releases is not helping either....the future looks grim for VNs in the west..and Sekai Project is right in the center of it all..



The Western VN scene is actually bigger now than it ever has been in the history of translated VN's. We've seen explosive growth which has been confirmed by every Western VN publisher, and why we've seen an explosion in Western made VN's as well. A few bad releases does not mean the death of VN's in the West, especially when every measurable metric shows the exact opposite. So no, people are not losing interest at all... interest is at an all time high, which is great! 10 years ago you had maybe 5-10 VN's get released in the West in a single year. Now there are hundreds.

So no reason to be doom and gloom about the state of the VN industry. Lolige we'll still have to see how things go, by I'd be optimistic.
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Clone 10032 wrote...
Please Fakku, just localize and distribute Your own Loli VNs, You guys actually have quality assurance and You're not going to censor them just because it involves lolis. I'll buy any loli release from You if You do that, also if You can get some actually good loli doujins translated then that'd be great too, because I think in the very short time I was paying for translations and decensors I got more loli doujins done in 6 months then Fakku got done in a year, but that could also be because Fakku just doesn't advertise their loli tag at all.


Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones You have but I'm very fickle when it comes to hentai, I dislike a majority of it to begin with.
I won't hold my breath for any of that. If they could advertise controversial tags they would not bury them under a filter. The few borderline doujins here don't feature human characters and while it's still pretty cool, no actual loli artist is involved (likely because their covers are more straightforward and body proportions really hit the spot). Shindou's and Booch's oni and vampires? OK! Yukino Minato's, Yukiu Con's, Muk's, Rico's monster girls, succubus and paranormal stories? Eeeeeeh.
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TasteyCookie wrote...
So no reason to be doom and gloom about the state of the VN industry.


It could have been twice as big if companies didn't alienate customers and promote piracy though. Because when you need to download torrents for good translations and CG restoral, you kind of lose motivation to go to the stores and buy the games. I'd personally rather donate 100 dollars to a fan that made a restore patch, than pay 20 dollars for a VN a company didn't put effort into.

I would have actually paid 50 dollars for an uncensored Maitetsu. Now it bothers me to pay 30 dollars for a lesser version. And I won't even bother paying 12 dollars on Steam just to own the game twice, because that is way more than it is worth in this censored state.

If you ask me, they should replace most of the staff at Sekai and Lose, and just hire cosplay maids. At least those know how to listen to customers and deliver a service.
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Tirigon Loli aficionado
YQII wrote...
But we also have to accept that in the current state of the industry, certain titles will only be available in either a revised form, or not at all. Believe me, I know how frustrating it is, and why many want this situation to change. Be civil about it though, because attacks are not going to lead to any improvements.


It is an open secret that stuff that isn't licensed will just be scanlated instead. By refusing to try and get us stuff officially you (and that refers to both FAKKU and the original publishers here) are only missing out on money you could have made.
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Yeah, good evening fellow friends. I'm Hata from Visual-Novel.info and we decided to help to fix bad releases to get back to their old glory. We are currently working on a Trample on Schatten Patch together with our fellow friends. But what we finalized is a patch for Maitetsu.

We made a fully working Drag & Drop Patch for Maitetsu with that completely fixes the game to the state, which it should be if DenpaSoft actually made a worthwhile release. However, it will not decensor the mosaics, thats just too much effort we are willing to offer. Also badly redrawn genitals ruin the experience imo...

We are trying to make an impact in our community not only for the EoP side, but also other visual-novel enthusiasts.

You can download the patch from this website: https://visual-novel.info/maitetsu-visual-novel-info-dezensierungspatch-keine-demosaics-common-route-fix/

Check out our community: https://discordapp.com/invite/gtNRnbe
Twitter: r/http://www.twitter.com/BishoujoNEWS
Fuwanovel: https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20718-discord-server-visual-novel-info-hub/

You are all welcome. We will try to keep you all up to date and create patches, when the community needs them. Trample is a tidbit harder to understand...own compiler and such, but we will find a way. The mastermind who is working on these patches does not want the glory, so we keep their identity a secret.

Edit: We found out our programmer based this one on helios patch mostly. We're going to add the missing lines asap so we actually did some modifications..orz.

Credit to Heliosaurus.

Make Eroge Great Again.
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dominicholan wrote...
How though? Go through the VN to make sure everything was accounted for? I'm pretty sure that's not their job.

Also from what I've heard, SP wasn't planning on doing the 18+ version at first until Lose convinced them. But they still didn't want it showing up on the Denpasoft store so they reached out to Fakku instead. If it weren't for them, 18+ Maitetsu might have never happened.


And now thanks to Fakku, we have a butchered release that can't seem to decide whether it wants to be an eroge or an all-ages title, which in turn damaged Fakku's rep thanks to SP and Lose's poor handling of the localization. Lose's interference was an unexpected hinderance in this debacle, but SP's bugged/lazy/meek handling of Lose's request was a perfectly predictable hinderance. If Sekai wasn't already hostile to loli content, they would've done a better job to persuade Lose into changing their minds. Clearly this didn't happen.

In the videogame industry, the developer is subordinate to the publisher, not the other way around. This makes the publisher responsible for whatever the developers put out, because publishers are often the ones providing funding to the developers (and in this case, a storefront to sell the games). This gives them huge control over what the developers can/cannot release, as well as a good chunk of the profit from sales. DICE wouldn't have tried to implement lootboxes with Battlefront 2 if EA wasn't requiring them to do so.

Sekai Project already has a questionable reputation in the VN community thanks to numerous controversies stemming from their poor localizations and confrontational staff members. By agreeing to publish this game and profiting off of this release, Fakku automatically assumes responsibility for any issues that Sekai Project creates with this release.

If Fakku wanted to avoid putting their name on the line, they should've known better than to be Sekai Project's publisher.
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Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

I second this. FAKKU, you can try to self-publish 2-5 pilot train doujinshis and look on sales, if they prove themselves economically inefficient, then there is no one to blame – not enough demand and you cease this covert train operation, but if it is economically justified then why not? Additional money for you.

It’s a right moment to try, after Maitetsu lunch your site is still flooded with a train aficionados.
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would sub for more trains.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

.>vanilla
>loli
You can have one or the other but it's not possible to have a vanilla loli doujin or manga. Loli would void the concept of vanilla. Pettanko vanilla is acceptable. High school vanilla possible.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

>vanilla
>loli
You can have one or the other but it's not possible to have a vanilla loli doujin or manga. Loli would void the concept of vanilla. Pettanko vanilla is acceptable. High school vanilla possible.
Loli vanilla is a thing. It's fiction, of course it exists.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
smug fennec wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

>vanilla
>loli
You can have one or the other but it's not possible to have a vanilla loli doujin or manga. Loli would void the concept of vanilla. Pettanko vanilla is acceptable. High school vanilla possible.
Loli vanilla is a thing. It's fiction, of course it exists.


Still vanilla sex is defined by social norms so unless it's socially acceptable in theory to have sex with a 12 and under then the loli would negative the vanilla concept even in fictional settings. I guess if the two are underage themselves that could be a variable since sex is consensual adult or maybe a pubescent thing. Normal sex without kinks and social conventions. Essentially means hentai without rape, tentacles, feces, or anything else that’s too far outside of “the norm.”

Anyways for som ereason i thought this wasn't in game section and about a censoring issue when i first posted. Sorry for riding this derail train.

#makeloligurovanillaathing
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animefreak_usa wrote...
smug fennec wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

>vanilla
>loli
You can have one or the other but it's not possible to have a vanilla loli doujin or manga. Loli would void the concept of vanilla. Pettanko vanilla is acceptable. High school vanilla possible.
Loli vanilla is a thing. It's fiction, of course it exists.


Still vanilla sex is defined by social norms so unless it's socially acceptable in theory to have sex with a 12 and under then the loli would negative the vanilla concept even in fictional settings. I guess if the two are underage themselves that could be a variable since sex is consensual adult or maybe a pubescent thing. Normal sex without kinks and social conventions.

#makeloligurovanillaathing
Fair enough.
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visualnovelinfoDE wrote...
Yeah, good evening fellow friends. I'm Hata from Visual-Novel.info and we decided to help to fix bad releases to get back to their old glory. We are currently working on a Trample on Schatten Patch together with our fellow friends. But what we finalized is a patch for Maitetsu.

We made a fully working Drag & Drop Patch for Maitetsu with that completely fixes the game to the state, which it should be if DenpaSoft actually made a worthwhile release. However, it will not decensor the mosaics, thats just too much effort we are willing to offer. Also badly redrawn genitals ruin the experience imo...

We are trying to make an impact in our community not only for the EoP side, but also other visual-novel enthusiasts.

You can download the patch from this website: https://visual-novel.info/maitetsu-visual-novel-info-dezensierungspatch-keine-demosaics-common-route-fix/

Check out our community: https://discordapp.com/invite/gtNRnbe
Twitter: r/http://www.twitter.com/BishoujoNEWS
Fuwanovel: https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20718-discord-server-visual-novel-info-hub/

You are all welcome. We will try to keep you all up to date and create patches, when the community needs them. Trample is a tidbit harder to understand...own compiler and such, but we will find a way. The mastermind who is working on these patches does not want the glory, so we keep their identity a secret.

Make Eroge Great Again.


You are doing gods work sir thanks.

I will never understand why jap devs want to censor their products in the US. It never helps sales. It still a loli game with porn, come on. Kudos to fakku for at least being honest about the whole situation. Also Sekai Project is cancer, trains deserve better.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
smug fennec wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Clone 10032 wrote...
Please I say, pick up more vanilla loli doujins, I'll buy all the ones

>vanilla
>loli
You can have one or the other but it's not possible to have a vanilla loli doujin or manga. Loli would void the concept of vanilla. Pettanko vanilla is acceptable. High school vanilla possible.
Loli vanilla is a thing. It's fiction, of course it exists.


Still vanilla sex is defined by social norms so unless it's socially acceptable in theory to have sex with a 12 and under then the loli would negative the vanilla concept even in fictional settings. I guess if the two are underage themselves that could be a variable since sex is consensual adult or maybe a pubescent thing. Normal sex without kinks and social conventions. Essentially means hentai without rape, tentacles, feces, or anything else that’s too far outside of “the norm.”

Anyways for som ereason i thought this wasn't in game section and about a censoring issue when i first posted. Sorry for riding this derail train.

#makeloligurovanillaathing
I mean, not really, "Vanilla Loli" refers to regular sex acts being performed with Lolis, it's not implying that Loli itself is vanilla. I just want more of the light-hearted loli doujins, because the majority of hentai is either rape or gangbang (1 girl and 2 or more guys) and I dislike both, I also don't like slutty lolis or stuff like mind control, it is somewhat hard to find a loli doujin that doesn't buckle to just having bad stuff happen to the lolis beyond that. There is a good chunk of "vanilla loli" doujins but nowhere near as much as I would like, plus plenty of doujins just don't get translated.


I think if Fakku picked up "Comic LO" We would have a great increase in the loli doujins I'm talking about.

Here are some examples of doujins I've had translated and decensored by paying with My own money:
[Mutou Mato] Tokkou Biyaku o Meshiagare | Would you like to taste my Special Aphrodisiac? - I payed 145$ to get this done.
[Mutou Mato] Kainushi no Kokoroe - I payed 154$ to get this done.
[Takoyaki-batake (Takoyaki Yoshi)] Akatsuki to Otona no Jikan (Kantai Collection -KanColle-) - I payed 160$ to get this done.

You can search those up if You want, but all of them are what I consider vanilla and yes I would call them "vanilla loli" not to spite You or anything, but just because My definition is not based on the loli content itself but instead what the lolis get up to. I believe fully well that in a fictional setting lolicon is legal, I mean a bunch of anime have loli romance and it's treated as normal a majority of the time, so in doujins I don't see why it wouldn't either thus leading Me to just considering loli vanilla until certain tags are added.
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Malamasala wrote...
We get porn scenes, but have the ecchi scenes censored. Makes no sense and can only have been done to infuriate customers and belittle their intelligence.


At first this didn't seem to make any sense to me either, but after seeing how Lose designs their H content (it's generally not integrated into the story - you just unlock H-scenes after finishing a route) there may be some reasoning behind this (dubious though it may be). I think most people who appreciate H will appreciate the presence of ecchi scenes in the story, but from a developer's perspective they then need to make one version of the story with ecchi content, and one without (since the H is after the story, so that's just a matter of unlocking some menus); so perhaps they decided that it's better to just have a "clean" story, with everything ecchi or H unlocked at the very end. That would slightly reduce dev costs and supposedly allow people to buy the full version even if they're on the fence about ecchi stuff. Considering that all-ages versions of games tend to come out much later than the initial H release this could theoretically allow some extra day-one purchases from people who don't want ecchi but also don't want to wait a year. As previously mentioned it's a dubious argument at best, but the only one I could think of that makes any sort of sense.

That said, I'm quite torn about this whole deal. I love Lose games and want to see Monobeno translated, so I'll half-heartedly buy the Fakku patch even though I don't agree with its content. Thankfully there is the fan patch that restores the content I want to see - had that not existed the choice would have swung differently.
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Plutomutt Loli Connoisseur
TasteyCookie wrote...
Now I'm conflicted because I want to buy the game to support loli releases, but dont want to support this behavior (and how SP never releases the content without mosaics which is a seperate gripe.)


PS: Comic Lo subscription as good-will? ;)


If you give Lose your money you are giving a bad COMPANY more money. You are not giving the lolicon GENRE more money..m please do not support a company that would leave it's consumers out in the cold like Lose has decided to go ahead and do.

I would highly suggest instead buying Manga Gamer's loli releases of Sweet Sweat in Summer, as well as Sweet Young Bride. They also have Imouto Paradise #1 which is high in loli content.
This is a way to speak with your wallet and also support a company that has not been shown to consistently shaft it's cuatomers and also produces loli content.
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saroth wrote...
At first this didn't seem to make any sense to me either, but after seeing how Lose designs their H content (it's generally not integrated into the story - you just unlock H-scenes after finishing a route) there may be some reasoning behind this (dubious though it may be). I think most people who appreciate H will appreciate the presence of ecchi scenes in the story, but from a developer's perspective they then need to make one version of the story with ecchi content, and one without (since the H is after the story, so that's just a matter of unlocking some menus); so perhaps they decided that it's better to just have a "clean" story, with everything ecchi or H unlocked at the very end. That would slightly reduce dev costs and supposedly allow people to buy the full version even if they're on the fence about ecchi stuff. Considering that all-ages versions of games tend to come out much later than the initial H release this could theoretically allow some extra day-one purchases from people who don't want ecchi but also don't want to wait a year. As previously mentioned it's a dubious argument at best, but the only one I could think of that makes any sort of sense.

That said, I'm quite torn about this whole deal. I love Lose games and want to see Monobeno translated, so I'll half-heartedly buy the Fakku patch even though I don't agree with its content. Thankfully there is the fan patch that restores the content I want to see - had that not existed the choice would have swung differently.


I'm 99% sure this is more related to Steam than anything else. Most likely the 18+ CG gallery part is locked from screenshots, but the in game is not. So they can let all-ages users play the VN and share screenshots and create hype for the game. But then they could screenshot naked lolis in a bath on Steam, and they don't want that.

So people buying the standalone version will just have to suffer because they want Steam sales for 12 dollars. Well, I guess we only have to be angry and hate publishers, as we can solve it with 3rd party patches.
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