Maitetsu Fixes and Updates

Aw man this really sucks i was really really looking forward to playing this game T.T But now with how everything is going i just mentally cant even play it without thinking about this disgusting controversy about it and how the developers think that its not ok to show nipples but somehow ok to show FULL SEX SCENES i mean did anybody in the office think hmmm this is stupid??????? And now a even bigger problem is going to arise Lose is going to think that there is no fanbase for there games out west when there really is! Its just that (IDK how japan is on there censorship of things) but in the west Speaking as a American personally and i speak for a good portion out there, When there is censorship in our games most of us will not buy it and avoid it. I wish that the Japanese developers would speak to us personally and not through third partys "AKA sekai project" And they would understand that most of us in the west wants uncut content and when they cut content they diminish their fanbase.


P.S as a sidenote if somehow a merical happens and a developer from lose is reading this just know if you cut your content to appease a certain demographic out here you are appeasing people that wont even buy your game and only pissing off the people that will actually buy your game.

Nah-ah, nope, sorry, not buying this one. I couldn't give a crap about whether there's a fan-made patch to fix this issue, nor do I give a crap about whether Lose intends to implement these edits in a future re-release in Japan; if it wasn't already released in Japan in this form prior to its localization, then it's a censored release, plain and simple. I have nothing to gain from supporting such a release, nor do I have anything to gain from letting either Sekai or Lose think this sort of approach to localization is acceptable. Plain and simple.

Jacob, I don't harbor any ill-will towards you or Fakku, as you guys were most likely out of the loop. This fiasco has no doubt negatively affected Fakku's reputation and created a major mis-step in its attempts to tap into the eroge market.

On the other hand, I cannot express any sympathy for the trouble you guys had over at Fakku. I understand you did your best on your end, but Sekai Project was already a company that had a questionable reputation in the VN community, and you guys chose to work with them in spite of that. There's plenty of ill-will to be harbored for the likes of Sekai Project and the egotistical asswipes that run it. They've already had established a history of poor localizations, expressing hostility to certain types of ero-content (especially loli), and engaging in shady crowdfunding practices; it would be of no suprise to me if they knew about Lose deliberately providing censored content and tried to slip this under the radar.

Therefore, it is still only fair that I hold it against guys at Fakku for agreeing to work with Sekai Project in the first place. You guys need to share the burden of any backlash you get from profiting off of SP's localization practices.

If anything, Jacob, if you want Fakku to redeem yourselves and come out of this as the "better man", you guys need to do the following things:

1) You guys already removed the "completely uncut with no scenes removed" line from your product page, but that's not enough. Now you guys need to disclose the fact that there is edited content in the game on both the product and store pages. Nobody is going to buy the arguement that this isn't censorship on Lose's part.

2) Investigate Sekai Project as to whether or not they had any prior knowledge of this issue before you had your discussion with Lose, and share it with us if it turns out to be the case. We need to confirm if our suspicions are correct or not.

3) Ditch Sekai Project and Lose. There's no need to work with questionable VN localization devs that fail to live up to the standard, and there is no need to work with a Japanese company that tries to sneak in censored content and expose you guys to backlash. Don't even think about working on Monobeno; leave that to the fan translation community.

4) Last, but not least, start localizing eroge in-house. Release something that has similar content to Maitestu, and release that shit uncensored. We need to have more competition than just Mangagamer and Sekai Project/Denpasoft if we are to have a western eroge market that actively pushes the envelope as to what can be brought over.

I get it, you guys didn't do anything to mess with the content of the game. I understand that. On the other hand, you guys chose to do business with a localization company that engages in crappy practices, along with a Japanese developer that refused to provide the proper materials. If you want to own up to this, do the four things above (especially the last two).

Fuck sekai project for ruining yet another game

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Physical book releases are wonderful as manga. But I find that there are not enough hands to read H-manga. So digital seem much better for that.

I'm currently considering buying the whole lot of DL-site Little Show models in Japanese. But if they were on FAKKU and translated it would be much better.

This was going to be my first purchase with Fakku. I already knew about Sekai Project and fully expected them to screw something up (since they always screw something up), but I certainly didn't expect this ridiculous mess of a complete lack of interest and care leading to a Frankenstein release of 18+ and all-ages assets and now this nonsense of Lose supposedly demanding some assets remain censored. I don't know much about Fakku or Lose, but I've had enough bad experiences with Sekai Project in the past, and I'm not going to support another one of their censored releases.

I'm afraid I still have to hold Fakku accountable for agreeing to work with Sekai Project. You guys knew they were bad news from the very beginning. Working with them was a mistake on your part. Own up to it.

I think a lot of the outrage, at least for those who had already purchased the product, stems from "false advertising" rather than the end result itself (at least for me personally). It is unlikely that Sekai Project did not know they received a censored version, and it is guaranteed (by own admission) that Lose knew. So why did they (and unfortunately this will extend to Fakku) market the product as the 18+ version, implying it was equivalent to the one from Japan. Normally this would be expected, and any deviation would warrant a disclaimer, which if one has been issued by SP, has only been issued nearly 2 months after release.


I am also uncomfortable with people implying that Fakku was "transparent" about this (or faultless). Transparency would entail noting "abnormalities" with a product prior to purchase, and ensuring the consumer is aware of them ~ As mentioned earlier in this thread by others, as well as something brought up in the previous thread as well, Fakku did not do this. Even a month after the issue was reported, at a point when Fakku itself was not sure if/when their would be a fix or in what form said fix would take, their was still no warning put in place to ensure customers were aware of the issue. Honestly I am not too upset about the end result, what was removed was relatively minor and Fakku certainly went out of their way to get the issue resolved; However, what is making me more upset while reading this thread, is brushing under the rug that Fakku has no system in place for warning customers that a product may be altered in some way from what they are expecting. Simply posting something in the comments, or having a forum thread on it, is no more "transparent" then tacking on "the fine print" at the end of a contract.

If only Sekai Project didn't have a history of lying about the Japanese publisher demanding games be censored when they were the ones pushing for the censorship themselves. See Grisaia.

Or when Sekai claimed Chrono Clock had to keep the mosaics because the Japanese publisher lost them only to rescind this statement when Mangagamer licensed an older title from the same Japanese developer and advertised it with no mosaics.