A plea from a desperate soul.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Gentlemen, I put it to you: should Koko be permitted to return. Today I received a pm from yet another one of her accounts(lets ignore this rule violation for a second to read it and ponder what we should do).
Ignore the glaring grammatical errors. I already have my own opinion but it's not set in stone, I'm going to be open about what you guys have to say. I want you to convince me one way or another whether she should be permitted to return. Don't just post that you think she should be released or rebanned, explain why.
The basics you should know:
She has been banned for over a year now
She has created 47 alts to get around that ban
Over the past 3 months she has been fairly silent(1 alt and 3 posts)
She has indicated some sort of progress in accepting some responsibility... sorta?
She has a vagina and you've probably seen her tits(this might matter to some of you?)
To give you an idea of where I am on this I'm leaning towards the ban remaining but as I said I will refrain from judgement for now. I have the okay from Jake to do whatever I want with this, and it was under his advice that she try to appeal to me because any time she did previously I would simply ban her with no reply(my actions should have been enough). This does not mean everyone who was banned gets a parole hearing, but I would be open to doing it if the other mods are okay with the idea.
Ill post right on this post with what I remember about the Koko Saga for new people to catch up, it will be spoilered.
I feel like my nuts gonna pop because I just wrote a whole bunch of stuff and it got deleted.
Re-written: Hi. Its Koko. Jacob told me to talk to you because he doesn't want any of this childish grudge holding drama bullshit between us most likely. I know you've said and done some things and I have as well. But I'm willing to let that go and move beyond the nonsense for a chance to be back into the forums again with the fakku tiers. Before you even wrote back I know what belittling words and forum rules you'll throw my way.
"Don't make any multiple accounts"
"That's enough for me to ban you"
"Stop causing drama"
Personally I get where your coming from for the accounts thing but the drama's a second issue. I will reframe from taking anything to seriously and if anything does arise I will take a step back and walk away. Not further escalating the situation. That's your duty.
Don't delete this account until I get a response. How the hell am I suppose to get a response when jacob told me to talk to you if you brush it aside.
Now I chose my Koko7 account not only because it's well known but mostly because I will take anything that comes my way BECAUSE it is well known. Also its my first account and has my years and favorites so ): . Yeah. That's it.
And I obviously will not make any other accounts once my Koko7 original account is back. And I won't be asking for a change or anything about it.
Extra: Will follow forum rules, no guro blah blah I know. I won't do anything against the website or anything that'll get me in trouble.
Re-written: Hi. Its Koko. Jacob told me to talk to you because he doesn't want any of this childish grudge holding drama bullshit between us most likely. I know you've said and done some things and I have as well. But I'm willing to let that go and move beyond the nonsense for a chance to be back into the forums again with the fakku tiers. Before you even wrote back I know what belittling words and forum rules you'll throw my way.
"Don't make any multiple accounts"
"That's enough for me to ban you"
"Stop causing drama"
Personally I get where your coming from for the accounts thing but the drama's a second issue. I will reframe from taking anything to seriously and if anything does arise I will take a step back and walk away. Not further escalating the situation. That's your duty.
Don't delete this account until I get a response. How the hell am I suppose to get a response when jacob told me to talk to you if you brush it aside.
Now I chose my Koko7 account not only because it's well known but mostly because I will take anything that comes my way BECAUSE it is well known. Also its my first account and has my years and favorites so ): . Yeah. That's it.
And I obviously will not make any other accounts once my Koko7 original account is back. And I won't be asking for a change or anything about it.
Extra: Will follow forum rules, no guro blah blah I know. I won't do anything against the website or anything that'll get me in trouble.
Ignore the glaring grammatical errors. I already have my own opinion but it's not set in stone, I'm going to be open about what you guys have to say. I want you to convince me one way or another whether she should be permitted to return. Don't just post that you think she should be released or rebanned, explain why.
The basics you should know:
She has been banned for over a year now
She has created 47 alts to get around that ban
Over the past 3 months she has been fairly silent(1 alt and 3 posts)
She has indicated some sort of progress in accepting some responsibility... sorta?
She has a vagina and you've probably seen her tits(this might matter to some of you?)
To give you an idea of where I am on this I'm leaning towards the ban remaining but as I said I will refrain from judgement for now. I have the okay from Jake to do whatever I want with this, and it was under his advice that she try to appeal to me because any time she did previously I would simply ban her with no reply(my actions should have been enough). This does not mean everyone who was banned gets a parole hearing, but I would be open to doing it if the other mods are okay with the idea.
Ill post right on this post with what I remember about the Koko Saga for new people to catch up, it will be spoilered.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
kengenerals wrote...
Quick question.Do you guys ban by username or IP?
Both when we can.
The Koko Saga:
Spoiler:
If anyone cares to look for the threads where all of this happened I'd love to see them again, my memory might be fuzzy on some parts (perhaps).
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Antw0n
Remember me?
Koko is a terrible person. Any group chat she was ever in, she has caused trouble and acted like a child.
After everything she's done and all the drama she's caused, one heartfelt PM to a mod shouldn't allow her back in.
I firmly believe this woman is unable to change.
I host a Mecha group chat on Skype where my rules are simply to stay on-topic and keep a serious tone.
Here are a few chatlogs from her time in my group.
First, here she is interrupting a conversation for pointless spam.
I wasn't even aware this happened until I went back into the chatlogs, or else I would've kicked her sooner.
[10-Sep-13 1:55:06 PM] pihip: now I wonder how many times I'll get killed before I finish it :V
[10-Sep-13 1:55:18 PM] K0K0: (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n)
[10-Sep-13 1:55:36 PM] K0K0: :v
[10-Sep-13 1:55:41 PM] artcellrox: why the spam?
[10-Sep-13 1:56:00 PM] pihip: cus he/she think it's cool
[10-Sep-13 1:56:09 PM] K0K0: >: o
[10-Sep-13 1:56:23 PM] K0K0: -strangles pihip-
[10-Sep-13 1:56:29 PM] pihip: *dodges*
[10-Sep-13 1:56:31 PM] pihip: ;V
[10-Sep-13 1:56:37 PM] artcellrox: we should all remember
[10-Sep-13 1:56:42 PM] artcellrox: The O is as fast as it is big
[10-Sep-13 1:56:42 PM] K0K0: -strangulation complete-
[10-Sep-13 1:57:46 PM] K0K0: Initiating code: 0012377895794768697
[10-Sep-13 1:58:15 PM] K0K0: Code initiated. Context: No-Fucks-Given
And here's the log for when I finally kicked her.
[08-Oct-13 11:02:09 PM] K0K0: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! -------------DDD<< :V
[08-Oct-13 11:03:01 PM] pihip: ...lol?
[08-Oct-13 11:06:43 PM] Antw(´・ω・`)n: dont be dumb, koko
[08-Oct-13 11:07:43 PM] K0K0: But you are dumb
[08-Oct-13 11:08:30 PM] K0K0: You lil shit. You have a wittle group and think you can tell people what to do. Stupid tiny penis boy.
[08-Oct-13 11:08:41 PM] artcellrox: :v
[08-Oct-13 11:08:49 PM] pihip: ...
[08-Oct-13 11:09:04 PM] Antw(´・ω・`)n: Cya koko
[08-Oct-13 11:09:07 PM] *** Antw(´・ω・`)n removed K0K0 from this conversation. ***
Yeah. No.
After everything she's done and all the drama she's caused, one heartfelt PM to a mod shouldn't allow her back in.
I firmly believe this woman is unable to change.
I host a Mecha group chat on Skype where my rules are simply to stay on-topic and keep a serious tone.
Here are a few chatlogs from her time in my group.
First, here she is interrupting a conversation for pointless spam.
I wasn't even aware this happened until I went back into the chatlogs, or else I would've kicked her sooner.
[10-Sep-13 1:55:06 PM] pihip: now I wonder how many times I'll get killed before I finish it :V
[10-Sep-13 1:55:18 PM] K0K0: (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n) (n)
[10-Sep-13 1:55:36 PM] K0K0: :v
[10-Sep-13 1:55:41 PM] artcellrox: why the spam?
[10-Sep-13 1:56:00 PM] pihip: cus he/she think it's cool
[10-Sep-13 1:56:09 PM] K0K0: >: o
[10-Sep-13 1:56:23 PM] K0K0: -strangles pihip-
[10-Sep-13 1:56:29 PM] pihip: *dodges*
[10-Sep-13 1:56:31 PM] pihip: ;V
[10-Sep-13 1:56:37 PM] artcellrox: we should all remember
[10-Sep-13 1:56:42 PM] artcellrox: The O is as fast as it is big
[10-Sep-13 1:56:42 PM] K0K0: -strangulation complete-
[10-Sep-13 1:57:46 PM] K0K0: Initiating code: 0012377895794768697
[10-Sep-13 1:58:15 PM] K0K0: Code initiated. Context: No-Fucks-Given
And here's the log for when I finally kicked her.
[08-Oct-13 11:02:09 PM] K0K0: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! -------------DDD<< :V
[08-Oct-13 11:03:01 PM] pihip: ...lol?
[08-Oct-13 11:06:43 PM] Antw(´・ω・`)n: dont be dumb, koko
[08-Oct-13 11:07:43 PM] K0K0: But you are dumb
[08-Oct-13 11:08:30 PM] K0K0: You lil shit. You have a wittle group and think you can tell people what to do. Stupid tiny penis boy.
[08-Oct-13 11:08:41 PM] artcellrox: :v
[08-Oct-13 11:08:49 PM] pihip: ...
[08-Oct-13 11:09:04 PM] Antw(´・ω・`)n: Cya koko
[08-Oct-13 11:09:07 PM] *** Antw(´・ω・`)n removed K0K0 from this conversation. ***
Yeah. No.
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This was around the time Solidshit and that dude that likes gargling solid's balls (I can’t remember his name) showed up and started preaching "stop cyber bullying her"
I laughed so hard at this.
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Antw0n
Remember me?
mangaka350 wrote...
Spoiler:
Da fuck did you invite her in your mecha chat? :V
I didn't. I never wanted her in there.
winter55 added her to the group and I was pleaded to give her a chance so I did.
I now enforce a rule where new people are not allowed to be added until my explicit permission has been given.
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I've only seen a little about her, and even though I try to give people the benefit of the doubt even getting more than 1 account banned is ridiculous.
But 48? Really? After 10 I would have just been "fuck this shit time to try to get a MAC address and ban that"
But 48? Really? After 10 I would have just been "fuck this shit time to try to get a MAC address and ban that"
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On the fence, this is definitely an step in the right direction but just message alone doesn't show that she's willing to follow the rules and let her grudges go. Koko has been known to say one thing and do the opposite no less than a minute later. I'm not saying she can never return. I'm just saying I need that she's willing to let the drama go and just try her best to follow all the rules besides words. Also the iron around her name is still hot so many will start trolling and dicking around when she first comes back which may make regenerate to her old self. I say her a good few months or so to let that sense of personality settle in with her and grow if it's truely there.
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
Just ban her.
This has been a repeating cycle for years now. Even if you do give her a chance, she'll probably pull another crazy shit in the future; sooner or later after she gets pissed off from a joke or something that is trivial as fuck. Trust me, you'll end up banning her either way.
Like any other user, she got banned after some warnings, then later got a perma ban. I bet some users from the past got the same treatment. I see no reason why she should be given another chance (even out of pity) after all the shit she did.
This has been a repeating cycle for years now. Even if you do give her a chance, she'll probably pull another crazy shit in the future; sooner or later after she gets pissed off from a joke or something that is trivial as fuck. Trust me, you'll end up banning her either way.
Like any other user, she got banned after some warnings, then later got a perma ban. I bet some users from the past got the same treatment. I see no reason why she should be given another chance (even out of pity) after all the shit she did.
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Antw0n
Remember me?
Cinia Pacifica wrote...
This has a repeating cycle for years now. Even if you do give her a chance, she'll probably pull another crazy shit in the future; sooner or later after she gets pissed off from a joke or something that is trivial as fuck.Like any other user, she got banned after some warnings, then later got a perma ban. I bet some users from the past got the same treatment. I see no reason why she should be given another chance (even out of pity) after all the shit she did.
This.
So much this.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Well, an argument for her is that I told Illumia if should could stay off the site it might help her chances to be unbanned, I wasn't going to just allow her back in without some major stipulations but it was on the table... she just didn't last 3 months. So there is a precedent. The other old timers who were banned just never came back and asked for it(long did and was re-allowed back). I'm not for her all of a sudden but I want you to understand the "others never got this chance" argument is wrong and illogical.
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Aai
FAKKU Ass Master
Who the fuck.
IS koko?
I SEE WE DOING THE DOUBLE STANDARD, I WANT KENNY TO COME BACK.
IS koko?
I SEE WE DOING THE DOUBLE STANDARD, I WANT KENNY TO COME BACK.
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If the person gargling on solid's balls is me then I have no problem with that but saying I joined the opposition after failing to negotiate with you for an unban is ridiculous.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Rika-tan wrote...
You're so fucking low you shit stain of Canada. *tapped floor till cement cracked
Arms folded*
Spoiler:
Hi, Kokonut.
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I don't care either way, but you know there will be more alts and shitposting if she does come back.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
opanihuya wrote...
If the person gargling on solid's balls is me then I have no problem with that but saying I joined the opposition after failing to negotiate with you for an unban is ridiculous.Oh, i forgot you were on the "free" coco side, it felt as though you were doing it simply because you dislike authority rather than something you cared about.
BUT ANYWAYS, I guess that settles the issue, it seems she doesn't want to come back. Unwilling to ask her friends for help in this thread. Her pride has led to her downfall, once again.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Aai wrote...
I SEE WE DOING THE DOUBLE STANDARD, I WANT KENNY TO COME BACK.
HE WAS BANNED?
D;