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PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
Sure we could just report every single thread that we see that's spam but that only addresses the symptom, not the cause.So PMing the user isn't an option?
That's fine but it doesn't really teach anyone but the one person you're talking to.
PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
As for Jacob saying it's ok to repost threads, I highly doubted his meaning was that it was ok for people to have 10 threads about your wang a day. What he probably meant is that it isn't a big deal if you make a new thread for anything older than say 5 pages in as opposed to necrobumping.I can agree with that. But new people need some lee way to learn. Not have threads like these shoved down their throats.
I don't think these threads are directed at people who just showed up here today, more like in the last couple of months, I think they've had time to learn.
PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
Most likely because they are trying their best not to be the Tyrants you seem to be (needlessly) worried about them turning into.Where'd this come from?
I probably got a comment someone else made mixed up with your stuff. I wasn't exactly looking at your posts while I was typing. Apologies.
PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
Congrats you clearly post too much and are part of a growing problem here at Fakku?That wasn't even in this thread. You lose ten points.
PersonDude wrote...
The way I'm using the term Elitist:Elitists are people who just think they're better than others and think they're part of a higher status, and people who think they're doing their society a favor etc.
Wait, so if you think you're doing your society a favor...even if you are you're an elitist? Also I don't know where you get the idea that I or others think we're of higher status. Do we constantly demand new titles for ourselves? No, most of us don't even give a shit about stuff like that minus the fact that it would look kinda cool.
PersonDude wrote...
With threads like these and comments like what I've quoted, it's clear you guys think yourselves better.Either that or we just want the Fakku we love to not turn into something we'd hate.
PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
3) Why are you suddenly so hostile? You used to be a nice guy. I know this because you've been here long enough to be part of the "elitists" you claim exist (because the only criteria I can see that you're using are 1) been here more than 3 months and 2) Don't have 50% or more of their posts be spam.)Might be because the sudden increase in hypocrisy around here. I'm not the best person, I have my problems, and honestly I'm not doing it for the noobs. I'm doing it because I see people who think they're helping the community by starting flame wars and trying to look good by pointing out other's mistakes out as if they don't have their own flaws. You might say I'm part of this too with these comments, but I really don't have any other way to point this out.
Actually I just meant that I think you used to be able to discuss things with a more civil tone as opposed to all this name calling bs. You're calling others elitists and acting like they work in a group when they're clearly individuals with their own opinions (seriously I bet half the people who agree with me in general don't agree with me on all the specifics) and yet you're calling others hypocrites. Think on that for a while.
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Being serious for a minute..
I'm not trying to point fingers or anything. I just don't like repetitive threads. You can put your idea somewhere where someone has already stated their opinions on a related subject of your idea.
I don't think these threads are directed at people who just showed up here today, more like in the last couple of months, I think they've had time to learn.
Exactly. They should know what is a good/bad thread/post.
People are just pushing the limits on what they can do. When I first joined I was extremely careful about what I said and how acted. Why? Because I wanted to know my boundary on where I stood. Rules can only tell you so much. It may seem like I'm an elitist, but I know where I stand. That's why I'm comfortable with Fakku.
....I wouldn't mind a new title...
I'm not trying to point fingers or anything. I just don't like repetitive threads. You can put your idea somewhere where someone has already stated their opinions on a related subject of your idea.
Ramsus wrote...
I don't think these threads are directed at people who just showed up here today, more like in the last couple of months, I think they've had time to learn.
Exactly. They should know what is a good/bad thread/post.
People are just pushing the limits on what they can do. When I first joined I was extremely careful about what I said and how acted. Why? Because I wanted to know my boundary on where I stood. Rules can only tell you so much. It may seem like I'm an elitist, but I know where I stand. That's why I'm comfortable with Fakku.
Ramsus wrote...
Also I don't know where you get the idea that I or others think we're of higher status. Do we constantly demand new titles for ourselves? No, most of us don't even give a shit about stuff like that minus the fact that it would look kinda cool.....I wouldn't mind a new title...
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Ok time for a shameless plug for IRC. PD pmed me a rebuttal and I asked him to come talk to me in IRC so we could discuss with more ease. Now of course since we're both lazy bastards this means you all probably miss out on the important revelations but I'll try to summarize what our conclusions were anyway.
1) We need to strike some kind of balance between making examples of what people do wrong for others to learn from, letting the moderators handle some things, and just talking to people privately to explain what we think they've doing wrong.
2) It causes a lot of tension when someone (probably one of the oldfags) who is popular with others reprimands someone and then suddenly everyone else joins in jumping up and down on that person for their mistake. If you see someone reprimanded for something more than twice in one thread you should probably just leave it alone (unless they've doing it over and over then I guess it's up to your judgment).
3) We'll never get to a point where everyone is happy because part of what a good portion of what people enjoy here is the arguments and fighting and some nonsensical spam. It's just that we need to cut down on it quite a bit for everyone to be...uh....balancedly unhappy/happy? If nobody ever argued or did pointless shit everyone would probably get bored and leave so we certainly aren't saying don't do it at all.
4) PD made me do the post so I'm claiming I won the argument. =P
1) We need to strike some kind of balance between making examples of what people do wrong for others to learn from, letting the moderators handle some things, and just talking to people privately to explain what we think they've doing wrong.
2) It causes a lot of tension when someone (probably one of the oldfags) who is popular with others reprimands someone and then suddenly everyone else joins in jumping up and down on that person for their mistake. If you see someone reprimanded for something more than twice in one thread you should probably just leave it alone (unless they've doing it over and over then I guess it's up to your judgment).
3) We'll never get to a point where everyone is happy because part of what a good portion of what people enjoy here is the arguments and fighting and some nonsensical spam. It's just that we need to cut down on it quite a bit for everyone to be...uh....balancedly unhappy/happy? If nobody ever argued or did pointless shit everyone would probably get bored and leave so we certainly aren't saying don't do it at all.
4) PD made me do the post so I'm claiming I won the argument. =P
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Ramsus wrote...
4) PD made me do the post so I'm claiming I won the argument. =PThe fact that I made you do it means you did it... like my slave... so I won. >_>
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To tell the truth, I have never been in favour of the "reposts are allowed in random" rule, perhaps due to my own beliefs and principles. However, Jacob is the boss here so what he says goes.
Alternatively, the Admins and Mods can choose to merge all related threads.
P.S. I will attempt to read through all the replies here the next time I log on.
Alternatively, the Admins and Mods can choose to merge all related threads.
P.S. I will attempt to read through all the replies here the next time I log on.