New Miley Cyrus Music Video
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Black Jesus JC wrote...
Watched the video. Yeah she definitely comes off as a try hard in it, but i don't see it as that badThis was Hannah Montana, the marketed preteen girl idol, and then Miley Cyrus, the marketed teenage girl idol, and now this. This sort of thing sends out ripples. Imagine say the Spongebob you grew up with turns into a lifeless husk of it's former sel-oh wait... Imagine say the Simpsons you grew up with turns into a lifeless husk of it's former sel-oh wait... Imagine say Conan the Barbarian dance-fights people in a tutu.
She is a 20 year old women. Her fanbase has aged with her, and she is under no obligation to act as a role model. I do think she is trying a bit too hard to be edgy, but im not going to lose sleep over it. And considering what has happened to other former teen stars like Amanda Bynes and Lohan,i think Miley isn't all that bad.
Edit-Just saw the rest of your post. If your gripe is that studio people are trying to force this new image on her, then go after them.
When you're famous or in a position of power, things you say or do have consequence that are out of your control, proportional to the amount of power or fame you have. That's why the President Obama can't just publicly announce he's actually the leader of Al Qaeda or accidentally launch all of our nukes (plot tweest). These people can't control the consequences of their speeches or actions, so instead they control their speeches or actions. This is what's called "responsibility". Also, instead of creating a new intellectual property, they decided to degrade a preexisting image. Sure Miley might've wanted to go in this direction herself (which is already telling, considering how she was a country-pop star before, which is pretty much the exact opposite of this), but you'd be kidding yourself if you think the people who produce her don't have direct supervision over her image and that everything needs to go through them first. Meaning, this wasn't just a whimsical decision to change herself, this was an intentional, deliberate, marketing plan.
Also, it's not like she's completely faultless for going along with this.
P.S. Going to bed, nighty-night. And sorry about how slow I formulate my thoughts completely.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Pointless post of abyssDidn't watch; Don't care
War doesn't happen overnight. It can come from many angles and in many shapes. The people who said it would never escalate this far were wrong and now they make excuses as society crumbles into pieces around them.
Got a 600/600 on my American History STAR exam back in high school. Still don't care.
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Foreground Eclipse wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Pointless post of abyssDidn't watch; Don't care
War doesn't happen overnight. It can come from many angles and in many shapes. The people who said it would never escalate this far were wrong and now they make excuses as society crumbles into pieces around them.
Got a 600/600 on my American History STAR exam back in high school. Still don't care.
High school.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Pointless post of abyssDidn't watch; Don't care
War doesn't happen overnight. It can come from many angles and in many shapes. The people who said it would never escalate this far were wrong and now they make excuses as society crumbles into pieces around them.
Got a 600/600 on my American History STAR exam back in high school. Still don't care.
High school.
Keep it coming, I feel extraordinarily bored today. I didn't get to go to the gym today so I'm full of pent up energy.
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Sneakyone wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
This one had me pretty mad when I watched it for the first time.
I can see why you got mad. Also, who would want to rape 'that'?
On topic, I never cared much for Miley Cyrus from day one.
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NEXUS
Since 2010
This song has more effort put into than anything miley cyris has ever had written for her.
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Horrid and funny at the same time.
Any song with a white girl saying "To my homegirls here with the big butts" deserves an award.
Any song with a white girl saying "To my homegirls here with the big butts" deserves an award.
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SolidShark wrote...
TriniDarkSlayer wrote...
Sneakyone wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
This one had me pretty mad when I watched it for the first time.
I can see why you got mad. Also, who would want to rape 'that'?
On topic, I never cared much for Miley Cyrus from day one.
Look at the bright side. She will finally pay back what she owed to society, with public humilation. :D
She pretty much did most of that herself by being the one to cause the ruckus hinted in the vid, but I agree with what you said.
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zeroniv_legend wrote...
That's quite a radical change for a woman. Was she raped and trying to ease the trauma?She was raped by Disney to becoming the perfect little teen idol.
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Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Keep it coming, I feel extraordinary bored today. I didn't get to go to the gym today so I'm full of pent up energy.Please don't rape me.
cruz737 wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
This is what's called "responsibility". https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1680736-V9UNFHN.png
You sure showed me.
Nobyl wrote...
Holy fuck, what did they do to her?Why do you care huh? She's a full-grown WOMYN, she can do WHATEVER SHE WANTS AND NOBODY CAN JUDGE HER. IF IT FEELS GOOD, THEN IT CAN'T BE BAD. Welcome to the glorious new era.
TriniDarkSlayer wrote...
On topic, I never cared much for Miley Cyrus from day one.But still, when was the last time you saw a celebrity so radically and drastically change their image like this? And Disney, the Disney is still backing her with money.
NEXUS wrote...
This song has more effort put into than anything miley cyris has ever had written for her.http://www.youtube.com/watch.*?v=Y7sLYNwevDQ.*?
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Deftera Mirage wrote...
Horrid and funny at the same time.Any song with a white girl saying "To my homegirls here with the big butts" deserves an award.
It's funny cuz she has no butt lol.
Damoz wrote...
So her aim was to become a lady gaga/pink hybrid?Except even at Lady Gaga/Pink/Madonna's worst, it still wasn't as bad as this. And when we see patterns like this, it means there's an underlying connection between all these seemingly separate cases. Most likely because Hollywood is secretly a bastion for pedophilia and couch casting. And it's just plain awful at remaking other mediums and old movies.
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NeoStriker wrote...
When you're famous or in a position of power, things you say or do have consequence that are out of your control, proportional to the amount of power or fame you have. I don't think Miley is as influential as you're making her out to be. Hannah Montana is no longer airing, and anyone who watched that in its heyday is older and has probably moved on by now. Her last album flopped in the U.S,so while a lot of people know who she is i don't think her fanbase is all that large anymore.
That's why the President Obama can't just publicly announce he's actually the leader of Al Qaeda or accidentally launch all of our nukes (plot tweest). These people can't control the consequences of their speeches or actions, so instead they control their speeches or actions. This is what's called "responsibility".
There is a huge difference between being the President and being a entertainer. Obama's responsibility to others is in his job description. Miley only "responsibility" is to entertain. The only reason she has influence beyond that is because too many people worship celebrities as role models when that is not in their job description. And the sooner people let go of that,the better.
Also, instead of creating a new intellectual property, they decided to degrade a preexisting image. Sure Miley might've wanted to go in this direction herself (which is already telling, considering how she was a country-pop star before, which is pretty much the exact opposite of this), but you'd be kidding yourself if you think the people who produce her don't have direct supervision over her image and that everything needs to go through them first. Meaning, this wasn't just a whimsical decision to change herself, this was an intentional, deliberate, marketing plan.
Nearly every childstar goes through this. To beak out of their image they try to go as edgy as possible. Britney did it, Christina did it,Gomez did so acting wise by starring in Spring Breakers.
I feel like people here are acting shocked when this always happens.
Also, it's not like she's completely faultless for going along with this.
I wasn't trying to say she wasn't. Most likely she just wants to rebel hard because she had no freedom to as a teenager. And again, considering what has happened to other former child stars recently i don't think her actions are all that extreme.
As this article written by a former child star, Miley's behavior is nothing new. Also said article kind of summarizes why most child stars end up the way they do,so i think it is relevant here.
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
I don't think Miley is as influential as you're making her out to be. Hannah Montana is no longer airing, and anyone who watched that in its heyday is older and has probably moved on by now. Her last album flopped in the U.S,so while a lot of people know who she is i don't think her fanbase is all that large anymore.There is a huge difference between being the President and being a entertainer. Obama's responsibility to others is in his job description. Miley only "responsibility" is to entertain. The only reason she has influence beyond that is because too many people worship celebrities as role models when that is not in their job description. And the sooner people let go of that,the better.
Nearly every childstar goes through this. To beak out of their image they try to go as edgy as possible. Britney did it, Christina did it,Gomez did so acting wise by starring in Spring Breakers.
I feel like people here are acting shocked when this always happens.
I wasn't trying to say she wasn't. Most likely she just wants to rebel hard because she had no freedom to as a teenager. And again, considering what has happened to other former child stars recently i don't think her actions are all that extreme.
As this article written by a former child star, Miley's behavior is nothing new. Also said article kind of summarizes why most child stars end up the way they do,so i think it is relevant here.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco
6 million views in just one day. 6 million might not seem a lot compared to the global population of 7 billion, but, of course, that's still a lot of people.
2. "Huge difference between being the President and being a entertainer"
"Huge difference between being the President and a entertainer"
"Huge difference between President and entertainer"
"Huge difference President entertainer"
"Huge difference"
Anyway, I agree nobody should take morality lessons from celebrities, but nonetheless, you can't say entertainers don't have awareness of what their actions can bring. In other words, sure Miley can do whatever she wants, but she knows what she's doing. This wasn't an accident.
3. Those sorts of incidents end up as the headline of a newspaper. Not endorsed by Disney and turned into a music video. That is the difference.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Eve Neuschwanstein wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
This is what's called "responsibility". Spoiler:
Faggot.
Koko, pls.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Nobyl wrote...
Holy fuck, what did they do to her?Why do you care huh? She's a full-grown WOMYN, she can do WHATEVER SHE WANTS AND NOBODY CAN JUDGE HER. IF IT FEELS GOOD, THEN IT CAN'T BE BAD. Welcome to the glorious new era.
I just know this somehow correlates to female abuse rates being at an all-time high. In a way I kind of feel sorry for her and in a way I'm sickened by what the industry has become. I guess there's not really any use in getting upset over something neither I or most of society have done little to stop though. It's too bad, she seemed like such a nice girl when she was younger. But, as they say, business is business.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
NeoStriker wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
This is what's called "responsibility". https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1680736-V9UNFHN.png
You sure showed me.
Why do you care huh? She's a full-grown WOMYN, she can do WHATEVER SHE WANTS AND NOBODY CAN JUDGE HER. IF IT FEELS GOOD, THEN IT CAN'T BE BAD. Welcome to the glorious new era.
Well I'm not asking you to not be judgmental.
But saying the degradation(lol) of society is even remotely factored by promiscuous dressing and acting pop stars is a stretch.
Even if she is popular she still doesn't own you anything. You're not entitled to a kiss on the foot because you've seen and liked her earlier work, nor does she have any responsibility or obligation to comply to irresponsible parents or people who don't like seeing scantily clad young adults. Also you can't prove intent. Saying she's "aware" of her actions, is like saying she's guilty. But of what?
Ruining the generation of young girls? That's cute if you think that's anywhere near the truth.
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