NIGGER
ONE OR THE OTHER. WE MUST GET THIS SORTED.
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Renovartio wrote...
Harontiar wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
As far as double-standards go, this one has always annoyed me.
Black people are the only people (until the recent "Slut Movement", anyways) to take something and apply a needless amount of confusion to it.
Asians don't go around calling each other Chinks.
Girls don't call each other Cunt in a friendly manner.
Germans don't greet each other with "GUTEN TAG, MEIN NAZI FREUND. HOW'S IT SHAKIN', JEWS ARE BAKING."
Really, I honestly think that Rap culture has severely taken the teeth out of "Nigger" as a term of insult- it simply doesn't hold much gravity when it gets thrown about so casually. To take offense to it is simply hypocritical at this point.
If it means so much to you, then either assign a negative or a positive connotation to it- but not both- to be flipped around willy-nilly according to something as mutable and unstable as context.
Oh- and picture unrelated, natch.
so going to hell now
Is your avi from Pisu Hame?
same artist but its based off of lollipop chainsaw
Okay. Thanks. Does it have a doujin?
artcellrox wrote...
Harontiar wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
As far as double-standards go, this one has always annoyed me.
Black people are the only people (until the recent "Slut Movement", anyways) to take something and apply a needless amount of confusion to it.
Asians don't go around calling each other Chinks.
Girls don't call each other Cunt in a friendly manner.
Germans don't greet each other with "GUTEN TAG, MEIN NAZI FREUND. HOW'S IT SHAKIN', JEWS ARE BAKING."
Really, I honestly think that Rap culture has severely taken the teeth out of "Nigger" as a term of insult- it simply doesn't hold much gravity when it gets thrown about so casually. To take offense to it is simply hypocritical at this point.
If it means so much to you, then either assign a negative or a positive connotation to it- but not both- to be flipped around willy-nilly according to something as mutable and unstable as context.
Oh- and picture unrelated, natch.
so going to hell now
Is your avi from Pisu Hame?
Close. It's a Shiwasu no Okina sketch of Juliet Starling from Lollipop Chainsaw.
............
*stares closely*
It really does look like the characters from Pisu Hame. Anyway, I can see the words "San Romero" on her clothes so there is no doubt she is indeed Juliet Starling. Thanks for clarifying it.
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Renovartio wrote...
Haron Lollipop Chainsaw is a video game =/anyway on topic
was just browsing facebook when I saw
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
Gism88 wrote...
I call everyone a nigger. Black, white, yellow, brown. I don't discriminate.
Same here.. I call my friends niggers. We are white, too D:
If people get offended, fuck 'em. It wasn't meant to be offensive.
Also, where is the poll option for 'a term to refer to your friends, who aren't infact black, and are just niggers'/ Friendly jive amongst white people
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
The word just means retarded person. There many languages that nigga mean what or who. Also the term nigger came from the latin roman word NGR which was the name of the people in niger and the nile river valley.
I have no problem with the nigga or the hard r word. My family use it so fuck much that it's just another verb. Which my grandmother use it has at say like 'working me like a nigger'. She from the south and it was common to hear that word even in the non racist way. She and my grandfather weren't racist. Big momma was.
I think the word nigger like i think about the word skinhead. Skinheads was a hardcore sub-culture of the punk movement with no racist thing. There was white, black, asian, mexican skinheads and still to this day there skinheads of every different color and nationality. We just refer to ourselfs has Sharp skins and NR skins. A couple of peckerwoods shave their heads, said niggers and fuck the zionist and the word become something different.. same with the term nigger and other words. Btw porch monkey is a term for Portuguese.
I have no problem with the nigga or the hard r word. My family use it so fuck much that it's just another verb. Which my grandmother use it has at say like 'working me like a nigger'. She from the south and it was common to hear that word even in the non racist way. She and my grandfather weren't racist. Big momma was.
I think the word nigger like i think about the word skinhead. Skinheads was a hardcore sub-culture of the punk movement with no racist thing. There was white, black, asian, mexican skinheads and still to this day there skinheads of every different color and nationality. We just refer to ourselfs has Sharp skins and NR skins. A couple of peckerwoods shave their heads, said niggers and fuck the zionist and the word become something different.. same with the term nigger and other words. Btw porch monkey is a term for Portuguese.
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I think you are referring to "Nigga" not "Nigger". Slight difference,but a important one. The former is used much more than the latter.
I do agree there is a bit of a double standard but as a black person myself as long as i think it is being used in a joking/non serious manner i don't care who says it, whether they be black,white,asian,etc. If it is being said in a derogatory context then i might get annoyed.
To use a example from my own life, one time in high school a classmate asked me if i could give him some money.I said i didn't have any extra cash(which was the truth), and he replied with "but aren't you jewish?"
If i thought said classmate was joking i would have let it slide(I have no problem with jew jokes). But from what i could tell, the guy was serious about.I stopped talking to him soon after, as the incident left me rather offended.
Basically, as long as its being used in a humorous way i don't mind. Plenty of my white friends use the term "Nigga", and that really doesn't offend me
I do agree there is a bit of a double standard but as a black person myself as long as i think it is being used in a joking/non serious manner i don't care who says it, whether they be black,white,asian,etc. If it is being said in a derogatory context then i might get annoyed.
To use a example from my own life, one time in high school a classmate asked me if i could give him some money.I said i didn't have any extra cash(which was the truth), and he replied with "but aren't you jewish?"
If i thought said classmate was joking i would have let it slide(I have no problem with jew jokes). But from what i could tell, the guy was serious about.I stopped talking to him soon after, as the incident left me rather offended.
Basically, as long as its being used in a humorous way i don't mind. Plenty of my white friends use the term "Nigga", and that really doesn't offend me
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I don't say "What up my nigga!" instead I say "Hail there my Negro chum, I hope ye have experienced a pleasant day thus far."
You know, cause I'm classy.
You know, cause I'm classy.
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Girls don't call each other cunt, but we do call each other bitch. Also skank.
I prefer to use the word 'nigger' to mean 'generally ignorant or belligerent person'
I prefer to use the word 'nigger' to mean 'generally ignorant or belligerent person'
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Lollikittie wrote...
but we do call each other bitch. Also skank.Hey bitch?
...or stank, if you prefer
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
Hey bitch?
...or stank, if you prefer
Spoiler:
Is this the part where I'm supposed to feel offended and slap you?
/rebel
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Loner
the People's Senpai
PumpJack McGee wrote...
"GUTEN TAG, MEIN NAZI FREUND. HOW'S IT SHAKIN', JEWS ARE BAKING."All my laughter.
But seriously racism is humorous. Which is why I understand that context is key in the use of that word. Never understood the offense when used as an obvious joke though. Especially amongst friends.
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I dont like using the word "NIGGER" to discribe black people in general because if I was Black then I wouldnt to be referred to as that.
I prefer Blacky, Monkey or Cotton picker instead. Id be black so adding a Y to the end wouldnt be bad, Monkeys are cute and besides all humans evolved from monkeys so what the hell and Cotton or Banana picker is OK too because it would remind me of ages past when my people used to actually work hard for a living. ;)
I prefer Blacky, Monkey or Cotton picker instead. Id be black so adding a Y to the end wouldnt be bad, Monkeys are cute and besides all humans evolved from monkeys so what the hell and Cotton or Banana picker is OK too because it would remind me of ages past when my people used to actually work hard for a living. ;)
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cruz737 wrote...
1. Not all asians are "chinks", and there is a bit of an animosity between different asians. They will call each other gooks, chinks, etc. etc.2. Well some do some don't. Just like anything else.
3. They're not allowed to joke about that..kinda. German govt is pretty strict about things relating to Nazis. So I guess you have a point, although I doubt all Germans care to be politically correct.
4. Blame "rap culture" all you want, I won't get you anywhere. Some Black people feel it's acceptable if only they use that word, some don't care, some don't want anyone to use that word. It's not hypocritical if one person dislikes that term, one person doesn't represent an entire community of people, vise versa.
5. Context does matter to some people.
If it means so much to you, go to some super liberal college, tv station and tell them off for not agreeing with you. I'm sure they'll be taken back by your superior logic and awesomeness.
Yeah, the poll is a great sign of how much though you put into this. Matters like these aren't so black and white.
1. I know that, but for non-Asians, China seems to be the default. I am well aware of the animosity between different Asian peoples.
2. Bitch, Slut, and anything else- yes. But not Cunt. In Western societies, at least, it seems to be consistently ranked as one of the single most offensive terms in our language.
3. Naturally. Anyways- for the three examples, it was simply to illustrate that nobody takes what are generally agreed to be highly offensive words and subvert them to be used casually as amiable terms.
I would not expect anyone to take me calling them a "Cum-guzzling two-cent manwhore of the Church" as the equivalent of "buddy ol' pal". (Well- maybe IB is an exception).
4. There is no way to find proof positive for either of us to back up our arguments- but I'm pretty damned sure that somebody who is completely detached from Rap culture (doesn't watch, listen, or even really know about it) wouldn't take kindly to being called "Nigger".
Those who do- there's my grief- it'll jump around. Call them Nigger and they punch you in the face- only to turn around and greet their friend with the very same word.
You cannot make a case for logic in there.
5. Never said context didn't matter, but simply that it is inherently unstable.
I argue with people all the time over this sort of stuff. If I could get a spot on TV- why the hell not. Maybe they will get taken aback by my superior logic and awesomeness. Maybe not.
I have assigned as much thought as the issue warrants in the environment of IB. I wanted short and sweet. If I wanted to actually try and change peoples opinions on the matter, I would have done some research and written a letter to the New Yorker or some other big publication.
Here I'm simply making an observation which I thought was fairly amusing.
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brok3n butterfly wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
SLOPE WOP CHINK PORCHMONKEY GOOK SANDNIGGER KIKE BOSCHE WETBACK SPIC SPOOK INJUN JERRY HONKY SAUSAGE-SUCKING KRAUT SURRENDER-MONKEYS PANCAKE RAGHEAD CHOLO WOG TOWELHEAD FROG COONASSCan you define the ones above?
Slope- Asians. Dunno the origins.
WOP- Mostly Italians. Acronym for "WithOut Papers".
Chink- Chinese. Often used for anyone Asian, though. Jab at the goofy-sounding language.
Porchmonkey- Black people. Many insults for them allude to them being apes.
Gook- Vietnam. Sometimes Korean. American soldiers used the term for enemy Asian soldiers during Vietnam and Korean wars. Actually started with Filipinos.
Sandnigger- Arabs. Mostly just white people being uncreative with their insults.
Kike- Jewish. Unsure of origin. Think it comes from a Yiddish word.
Bosche- Germans. From French Caboche Dure- "Hard-head","Stubborn".
Wetback- Mexicans. Illegal immigrants crossing the Rio Grande.
Spic- Mexicans. Unsure of origin. I assume "Hispanic".
Spook- Black people. Eyes and teeth. Spooky.
Injun- Native North Americans. "Indian"
Jerry- German. Probably just "German". Like a nickname of sorts.
Sausage-Sucking Kraut- German. German cuisine. Sausage. Sauerkraut. Not always used together.
Honky- White people. Dunno the origin.
Surrender-Monkeys- Mostly French and Italians. Gained the reputation as countries that surrender a lot.
Pancake- Asians. Assuming jab at yellow skin.
Raghead- Middle East. Turbans.
Cholo- Native American, Black, Mixed. Unsure of origin.
Wog- Black people. Actually just for anybody with dark skin, I believe. And for people of the UK- that basically means everybody else.
Towelhead- Middle East. Turbans.
Frog- French. They eat frogs.
Coonass- Cajun. Unsure of origins.
As for Jap, Flip, etc. They were used when these countries were at war. On their lonesome they don't mean anything, but do know that anybody who would call you that is no friend.