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cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Sorry Reno, gonna have to agree with the Baka on this one. You don't live in the states most affected by illegal immigration in the US, I don't want your vote to determines what happens with tax money from those most impacted...And as I already said before, even if Mexico were to build the wall, which they won't, it's going to be expensive to maintain and patrol. It probably won't completely stop people crossing the border entirely (it will severely dent organized crime though, so huzzah?!), but most importantly it doesn't attack the heart of the problem when it comes to illegal immigration.
I know the Mexican government isn't a saint when it comes to illegal immigration, but telling them to do something absurdly expensive or face giant tariffs isn't beneficial. Especially considering Mexico is our 3rd largest trade partner meaning even less economic stability.
So even though it affects the entire country, I shouldnt have a say because I dont live in a place that is most affected by it?
We literally send them a ton of money every year. All we got to do is cut it off.
And you think think that illegal immigration cant be stopped and so we shouldnt try?
Yeah. I don't think it's right for me to shit on some New Yorker's yard and then say, HEY, IT'S BOTH OF OUR COUNTRY.
I never said anything about foreign aid. I was talking about trade and tariffs. Personally I don't think the US should give foreign aid to any country except for disaster relief.
I never said we couldn't stop it, just that a wall is big, useless and doesn't actually stop it. As I've told you many times, most people here illegally are those using fake visas or are overstaying their welcome with their visitor ones. You are actually ignoring reality for the sake of sucking of Trump's orange dick.
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
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cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
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Masayoshiii
Gone
Takerial wrote...
Let's vote in Captain Planet as President.Nah, it's gotta be Captain Pollution for president 2016 ;P Dump all the toxic waste and destroy the planet! Yay for humans becoming their own undoing!
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æ£ç¾© wrote...
Takerial wrote...
Let's vote in Captain Planet as President.Nah, it's gotta be Captain Pollution for president 2016 ;P Dump all the toxic waste and destroy the planet! Yay for humans becoming their own undoing!
Lol bringing captain planet into an election thread...
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cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
I'm guessing you mean your state taxes right?
Wouldn't the wall be built along the entire boarder, not just your own state?
I'm sure it would be federal taxes that would be what's used to build the wall, if it's not being privately funded.
Well anyway. I think it'll create jobs. I'm hoping for there to become giant boarder cities that are built along the wall (seeing as in order to man the wall, there needs to be accommodations along it). But then again, that's just hopeful speculation on my part.
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CronaBaka
Mellow Yellow
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
I'm guessing you mean your state taxes right?
Wouldn't the wall be built along the entire boarder, not just your own state?
I'm sure it would be federal taxes that would be what's used to build the wall, if it's not being privately funded.
Well anyway. I think it'll create jobs. I'm hoping for there to become giant boarder cities that are built along the wall (seeing as in order to man the wall, there needs to be accommodations along it). But then again, that's just hopeful speculation on my part.
Go re-watch that John Oliver video I linked, and try to keep an open mind.
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CronaBaka wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
I'm guessing you mean your state taxes right?
Wouldn't the wall be built along the entire boarder, not just your own state?
I'm sure it would be federal taxes that would be what's used to build the wall, if it's not being privately funded.
Well anyway. I think it'll create jobs. I'm hoping for there to become giant boarder cities that are built along the wall (seeing as in order to man the wall, there needs to be accommodations along it). But then again, that's just hopeful speculation on my part.
Go re-watch that John Oliver video I linked, and try to keep an open mind.
>John Oliver
Dude, no. That's like telling a liberal to watch Bill O'Reilly
Except you know, Bill tries to be correct while John is just a dumb cunt sjw.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Renovartio wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
I'm guessing you mean your state taxes right?
Wouldn't the wall be built along the entire boarder, not just your own state?
I'm sure it would be federal taxes that would be what's used to build the wall, if it's not being privately funded.
Well anyway. I think it'll create jobs. I'm hoping for there to become giant boarder cities that are built along the wall (seeing as in order to man the wall, there needs to be accommodations along it). But then again, that's just hopeful speculation on my part.
Go re-watch that John Oliver video I linked, and try to keep an open mind.
>John Oliver
Dude, no. That's like telling a liberal to watch Bill O'Reilly
Except you know, Bill tries to be correct while John is just a dumb cunt sjw.
I watch bill. He doesn't. You can see the puppeteer's hand up his ass in the background.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
you know as well as well as I do that your first comment is completely fallacious and doesn't have anything to do with the point I was making.
Reiterate your point then, because it sounds like you want to dictate what happens in other states thousands of miles away from you.
Democracy is fine but I'm a strong believer in government being focused on a state and local level (one that also doesn't tarnish your rights either, Southern states), as opposed to a centralized extremely powerful federal one.
And I'm not saying you're not within your right to be upset over certain issues and vote on how you see fit but you are in some ways...shitting on our yard.
Illegal Immigration affects the entire country dude.
You, not as much. Or maybe it does, but we're talking about Trump's wall on the Mexican border.
And I'm talking about ways to deal with it. So again if you don't see this as dictating what happens with my tax money in my back yard, please reiterate.
I'm guessing you mean your state taxes right?
Wouldn't the wall be built along the entire boarder, not just your own state?
I'm sure it would be federal taxes that would be what's used to build the wall, if it's not being privately funded.
Well anyway. I think it'll create jobs. I'm hoping for there to become giant boarder cities that are built along the wall (seeing as in order to man the wall, there needs to be accommodations along it). But then again, that's just hopeful speculation on my part.
Go re-watch that John Oliver video I linked, and try to keep an open mind.
>John Oliver
Dude, no. That's like telling a liberal to watch Bill O'Reilly
Except you know, Bill tries to be correct while John is just a dumb cunt sjw.
I watch bill. He doesn't. You can see the puppeteer's hand up his ass in the background.
Oh?
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
I listen to trump's speech in fresno the center of hell and capital of nuevo mojado and nothing he said made sense. How does a wall effect immigation or crime when the mexicans know how to build ladders and dig tunnels? How will it stop illegals from coming(which no one does anymore), but doesn't stop actual illegals that are coming by planes, boats and Canada(Really not the Canadian people but people flying into Canada to drive or walk over since there only 20-30 people patrolling the border there which is twice the size). Yes El mojado is the number one nationality of illegals but what about the Chinese, Indians, English, french ect ect visa over stayers? As long as they don't speak the mud moor nigga Spanish they're cool?
A sign i saw was 'Farmers for Trump'.... I still haven't see or heard one farmer said 'well deport all the workers and we will charge twice/thrice for a tomato'. No Mexicans then we have a labor shortage until they either give higher wages or machines. Georgia Found that out last year when even the prisoners said fuck no. I wouldn't pick melons for under min wage. Hell my family are the ones who find workers to work the fields. Or we can just bring back slavery... well unpaid slavery.
All he said about water is 'i'll turn on the tap'.... ok.
Now a weird thing did happen. His people started chatting 'Get a job' to the protesters. Which doesn't really make sense if you're also in a rally at 10am on a Friday. Even i was working today.
Now the dumbest and funny moment. He said he will win California and New York in the general election. That would be the hardest thing to do anyways. You would have to flip all the other non democrat parties people and 300,000 democrats just to barely win in cali alone and you know greens and peace and freedom would ever
vote trump/skeletor 2016.

and that only doing what bush did in 2000/2004. IF it Obama numbers then there no fucking way. Even in the bush era he lost by million and a half. Doing that math then he needs a half million more votes then what non democrat have.
Edit: forgot he said there no drought in california.... sure mr trump and rabbits are a type of magical cow that lay eggs and sing naruto op's. Yes water does go into the ocean. That's how the fucking world works. River flow to the lowest point. That how salmon and steelhead go out to sea. Sturgeon need fresh water to flow in the delta. That how farms in the bay get the river flow for canals. Can we divert some, yes but it not eve close to fixing the problem with no rain.
A sign i saw was 'Farmers for Trump'.... I still haven't see or heard one farmer said 'well deport all the workers and we will charge twice/thrice for a tomato'. No Mexicans then we have a labor shortage until they either give higher wages or machines. Georgia Found that out last year when even the prisoners said fuck no. I wouldn't pick melons for under min wage. Hell my family are the ones who find workers to work the fields. Or we can just bring back slavery... well unpaid slavery.
All he said about water is 'i'll turn on the tap'.... ok.
Now a weird thing did happen. His people started chatting 'Get a job' to the protesters. Which doesn't really make sense if you're also in a rally at 10am on a Friday. Even i was working today.
Now the dumbest and funny moment. He said he will win California and New York in the general election. That would be the hardest thing to do anyways. You would have to flip all the other non democrat parties people and 300,000 democrats just to barely win in cali alone and you know greens and peace and freedom would ever
vote trump/skeletor 2016.

and that only doing what bush did in 2000/2004. IF it Obama numbers then there no fucking way. Even in the bush era he lost by million and a half. Doing that math then he needs a half million more votes then what non democrat have.
Edit: forgot he said there no drought in california.... sure mr trump and rabbits are a type of magical cow that lay eggs and sing naruto op's. Yes water does go into the ocean. That's how the fucking world works. River flow to the lowest point. That how salmon and steelhead go out to sea. Sturgeon need fresh water to flow in the delta. That how farms in the bay get the river flow for canals. Can we divert some, yes but it not eve close to fixing the problem with no rain.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
animefreak_usa wrote...

That farmers/produce situation is a bit different, even with government subsidies the market is a bit messed up. Not all farmhands are illegal immigrants, and by curtailing illegal immigration you are essentially stopping exploitation in the industry. It's not a one way street though, companies who partake in these transactions should be punished too, not just fined for a few thousand dollars.
That probably sounds strange coming from me but our current system isn't suited for free trade of labor and open borders, things I think are...uh...morally superior to whatever it is we have.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Weird thing. Just right now I'm watching some documentary about Hitler's gold and they show a little video clip of Mussolini at a rally and his mannerisms of smugness remind me of a bald headed Trump.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Takerial wrote...
If the injustice and red son story is a tome of what if a super hero ran a country or world... shit be worst then the blond ape with a orange dick could do.

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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
animefreak_usa wrote...
Takerial wrote...
If the injustice and red son story is a tome of what if a super hero ran a country or world... shit be worst then the blond ape with a orange dick could do.

I feel like Loki would be a very effective leader.
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Masayoshiii
Gone
Takerial wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
Takerial wrote...
If the injustice and red son story is a tome of what if a super hero ran a country or world... shit be worst then the blond ape with a orange dick could do.

I feel like Loki would be a very effective leader.
More like a very effective dictator...