So like. . .
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Waar wrote...
It's not about redemption now, she had her second chance and blew it. Are you asking if harassment is something new? Or something we've ever dealt with it before? I cant remember any other incident where a user refused to stop harassing another. I did however get asphodel, circe, and sam something to leave her alone at one point when she felt harassed.
The second. I noticed your post only when I posted mine so after reading it I don't know what to add. How about reminding you about that project on rebuilding kokobitch you had? Wouldn't it add a bit faith in humanity if koko apologized? If you haven't noticed I'm really trying to appeal to you man.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Neither is fine, just report them.
Are you asking if harassment is something new? Or something we've ever dealt with it before? I cant remember any other incident where a user refused to stop harassing another. I did however get asphodel, circe, and sam something to leave her alone at one point when she felt harassed.
The second. I noticed your post only when I posted mine so after reading it I don't know what to add. How about reminding you about that project on rebuilding kokobitch you had? Wouldn't it add a bit faith in humanity if koko apologized? If you haven't noticed I'm really trying to appeal to you man.
She had her shot at reformation. My faith in humanity is not shaken, I simply have no faith in her. She has shown no acceptance that she is at fault, nor repentance and she continues to disrespect our rules. Any apology at this point would not be sincere. I won't waste time on someone who has no intention of ever understanding my point.
opanihuya wrote...
Waar wrote...
It's not about redemption now, she had her second chance and blew it. Are you asking if harassment is something new? Or something we've ever dealt with it before? I cant remember any other incident where a user refused to stop harassing another. I did however get asphodel, circe, and sam something to leave her alone at one point when she felt harassed.
The second. I noticed your post only when I posted mine so after reading it I don't know what to add. How about reminding you about that project on rebuilding kokobitch you had? Wouldn't it add a bit faith in humanity if koko apologized? If you haven't noticed I'm really trying to appeal to you man.
She had her shot at reformation. My faith in humanity is not shaken, I simply have no faith in her. She has shown no acceptance that she is at fault, nor repentance and she continues to disrespect our rules. Any apology at this point would not be sincere. I won't waste time on someone who has no intention of ever understanding my point.
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Waar wrote...
She had her shot at reformation. My faith in humanity is not shaken, I simply have no faith in her. She has shown no acceptance that she is at fault, nor repentance and she continues to disrespect our rules. Any apology at this point would not be sincere. I won't waste time on someone who has no intention of ever understanding my point.Sometimes chicks need thunder to cross themselves and wonder. Or a bitchslap. Either way I'm done.
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Pyre wrote...
Getting your friend to appeal your ban for you is just low, man up and appeal yourself.
He does not have access to fakku anymore (cuz his alts were banned too), that's why his friends stood up for him.
Anyways, If mantis's necrobump threads on IB, then I believe the case should be reconsidered. Also yoshii's, in his case.
If it's outside IB, then I'm outta here.
OPINION: With all due respect, it's true that we have rules for anything, and everyone who breaks the rules must face the consequences. But then, a case is different from another case, that's why we have attorneys and judges in real life.
I believe we should have a trial or something, and let's hear it from mantis's side, shall we?
OPINION: Thread belongs to SD.
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If you don't want to read the serious things I just posted, then read this instead:
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
SolidShark wrote...
Sgt.broski wrote...
I don't think alot of users dislike youUhh, just:
Medzy
Bagman
GreenZero
623
Lollikittie
Longevity
mibuchi
artcellrox
I'm sure there are more out there, my memory must be failing. It's not good, and I am not proud of this, unlike users who enjoy being hated. What matters is what I'm learning here, the laughs I get, the non-jerk side of the community. Always have to look to the bright side.
You're learning, and you don't fack me off as much as you used to, which is good.
Just gotta stop trying so hard to fit in. The harder you try, the worse you are, in a sense.
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SolidShark wrote...
Uhh, just:Medzy
Bagman
GreenZero
623
Lollikittie
Longevity
mibuchi
artcellrox
You forgot me, DVSN and Yoshii.
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
SolidShark wrote...
I don't know, I just always see in every thread people telling you to stop posting. Also, maybe next time you could READ my reply to Peltor before blindly agreeing with him.
opanihuya wrote...
How do you know that? She's still here after a month of restrainment from alts (lol).Because she literally keeps doing the same thing over and over.
opanihuya wrote...
Yes but the reason she got rebanned is really something new. Was there a case before like that?It wasn't. It was literally the reason why she was banned before.
Sgt.broski wrote...
When did it become a crime to argue with a mod whose in the wrong?It's not. But when we ban someone for ban evading that's something that is specifically stated is a perma-bannable offense. There are VERY FEW, if any cases, where someone is banned when the situation is ambiguous..
Sgt.broski wrote...
I don't think alot of users dislike you it's just tegumi might be in rage mode so just let her cool off and she'll be back to normal.lol
Peltor wrote...
He does not have access to fakku anymore (cuz his alts were banned too)THAT'S the problem.
Peltor wrote...
OPINION: With all due respect, it's true that we have rules for anything, and everyone who breaks the rules must face the consequences. But then, a case is different from another case, that's why we have attorneys and judges in real life.Yes, but in real life if you've been incarcerated for something, escaping is only going to make things worse when you're caught. This isn't a movie.
Anti-Mage wrote...
No, he quite literally just got perma banned.No, not "no", I just asked the other staff about it and the reason was one of the ones I listed:
Tegumi wrote...
or did something so completely abhorrent to Jacob that he issued a perma right away.
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Tegumi wrote...
No, not "no", I just asked the other staff about it and the reason was one of the ones I listed:Tegumi wrote...
or did something so completely abhorrent to Jacob that he issued a perma right away.He did stuff after he was permabanned, exploiting Jacob's bad coding, but he didn't do anything but necro (albeit a lot) to get the perma.
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
Anti-Mage wrote...
He did stuff after he was permabanned, exploiting Jacob's bad coding, but he didn't do anything but necro (albeit a lot) to get the perma.Yes, Jacob REALLY didn't like that. See: abhorrent
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SolidShark wrote...
Uhh, just:Medzy
Bagman
GreenZero
623
Lollikittie
Longevity
mibuchi
artcellrox
Forgot me as well.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Missed this nonsense so Ill take a second to reply.
Nah, most of the time when people are accusing other of harassment it was just someone being overly mean to someone else and some feelings got hurt. So I believe in a "get thicker skin" response most of the time, but not after I warned someone not to do anything else.
Me giving fair warning:
IB is special, the rules apply but they don't. You can't post guro but you can use racism, you can't post scat but you can necrobump/triple post/act like an idiot. We let most of the rules slide but still maintain the important ones. We do enforce some of the unimportant ones but only if it's in excess(like mantis and his bid for time off). The enforcement in IB is up to each individual mod which is why we leave things vague, so if we think someone is being a real shit we can give them a warning/ban without punishing the minor stuff most of the time. A good example is Jacob said necrobumping is fine, but yoshii was perma banned for necrobumping a ridiculous amount one day.
I will start by saying some of the people who post on Fakku don't behave like adults, and I very much doubt everyone here is above 18 so treating everyone like an adult is both impractical and a waste of time. Second, where did I punish anyone for arguing with me about the rules? I enjoy a good argument. I didn't ban koko or mantis for arguing/disagreeing with me, I banned them for violating rules and disregarding mod authority.
Here's a conversation on Skype that I had with Jake about the whole thing.
I believe that shows that Jake thinks I did my job properly and its also a good example of what I believe to be fair treatment.
All that being said had Koko been capable of controlling herself she could have waited 3 days, come back and made a thread in feedback to debate the reason for her ban. Deciding to disregard a mods decision will only lead to a perma ban, so keep that in mind when you want to argue about the rules.
If it's outside IB, then I'm outta here.
OPINION: With all due respect, it's true that we have rules for anything, and everyone who breaks the rules must face the consequences. But then, a case is different from another case, that's why we have attorneys and judges in real life.
I believe we should have a trial or something, and let's hear it from mantis's side, shall we?
OPINION: Thread belongs to SD.
Mantis is due to multiple warnings(which were ignored) and his deliberate attempt to get banned so he could study. Abusing the system is for the most part why he wont be allowed back.
Yoshii was banned by Jake for doing something that made Jake look bad, and then using the dev version of Fakku to get around a ban(thus ban evading).
You know as well as I that not everything is punished in IB, the worst cases are dealt with which is why Mantis got his perma. This is not the United States of America, users don't have right to a fair trial. When you create your account you are borrowing something from the site under the understanding that you have to follow our rules and trust they are being enforced fairly. You may not believe that something was fair but the person who runs the site has decided to trust some of us to judge what is and what isn't fair, it's up to those individuals to decide whether your treatment was excessive or not. You may not like that system but you are welcome to leave at any time if you believe that's unacceptable.
Sgt.broski wrote...
I agree with most of what you said but giving lean way is definitely a problem. I was under the impression that the mods were to ensure the rules were being followed and to ensure the safety of its users so you saying you would just let it slide can be a problem.Nah, most of the time when people are accusing other of harassment it was just someone being overly mean to someone else and some feelings got hurt. So I believe in a "get thicker skin" response most of the time, but not after I warned someone not to do anything else.
Me giving fair warning:
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Sgt.broski wrote...
That brings me to something else, why do you have rules posted in IB and people aren't even following the majority of them. I didn't get that part never did. I've seen users actually trying to abide by these so called rules and its like "well shit if the people here don't abide by it then why should I"?, Which creates misunderstanding and problems so you're making your own job harder by not enforcing these rules you've posted but no biggie.IB is special, the rules apply but they don't. You can't post guro but you can use racism, you can't post scat but you can necrobump/triple post/act like an idiot. We let most of the rules slide but still maintain the important ones. We do enforce some of the unimportant ones but only if it's in excess(like mantis and his bid for time off). The enforcement in IB is up to each individual mod which is why we leave things vague, so if we think someone is being a real shit we can give them a warning/ban without punishing the minor stuff most of the time. A good example is Jacob said necrobumping is fine, but yoshii was perma banned for necrobumping a ridiculous amount one day.
Sgt.broski wrote...
Also, we are all grown man and women so being treated as a child is getting way out of control my friend. When did it become a crime to argue with a mod whose in the wrong? Everyone here has a(n) opinion to speak and if youre going to play that game then you might as well quit again and let someone else take chargeI will start by saying some of the people who post on Fakku don't behave like adults, and I very much doubt everyone here is above 18 so treating everyone like an adult is both impractical and a waste of time. Second, where did I punish anyone for arguing with me about the rules? I enjoy a good argument. I didn't ban koko or mantis for arguing/disagreeing with me, I banned them for violating rules and disregarding mod authority.
Here's a conversation on Skype that I had with Jake about the whole thing.
Spoiler:
I believe that shows that Jake thinks I did my job properly and its also a good example of what I believe to be fair treatment.
All that being said had Koko been capable of controlling herself she could have waited 3 days, come back and made a thread in feedback to debate the reason for her ban. Deciding to disregard a mods decision will only lead to a perma ban, so keep that in mind when you want to argue about the rules.
Peltor wrote...
Anyways, If mantis's necrobump threads on IB, then I believe the case should be reconsidered. Also yoshii's, in his case.If it's outside IB, then I'm outta here.
OPINION: With all due respect, it's true that we have rules for anything, and everyone who breaks the rules must face the consequences. But then, a case is different from another case, that's why we have attorneys and judges in real life.
I believe we should have a trial or something, and let's hear it from mantis's side, shall we?
OPINION: Thread belongs to SD.
Mantis is due to multiple warnings(which were ignored) and his deliberate attempt to get banned so he could study. Abusing the system is for the most part why he wont be allowed back.
Yoshii was banned by Jake for doing something that made Jake look bad, and then using the dev version of Fakku to get around a ban(thus ban evading).
You know as well as I that not everything is punished in IB, the worst cases are dealt with which is why Mantis got his perma. This is not the United States of America, users don't have right to a fair trial. When you create your account you are borrowing something from the site under the understanding that you have to follow our rules and trust they are being enforced fairly. You may not believe that something was fair but the person who runs the site has decided to trust some of us to judge what is and what isn't fair, it's up to those individuals to decide whether your treatment was excessive or not. You may not like that system but you are welcome to leave at any time if you believe that's unacceptable.
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Sgt.broski wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
>agree with the first thing you like and read nothing else
This is why nobody likes you
I agreed with Peltor because it seemed more fair based on the little I know. On a side note, I am new enough to not know what went on before I was here, why some users are banned and who are they (illumia, koko, etc). I accept that my opinion and agreement is of low value due to the circumstances, but I fail to see what I did wrong to make many users dislike me apart from me being enthusiastic.
I don't think alot of users dislike you it's just tegumi might be in rage mode so just let her cool off and she'll be back to normal.
i actually hate him...
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
Kona-chan wrote...
Sgt.broski wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
>agree with the first thing you like and read nothing else
This is why nobody likes you
I agreed with Peltor because it seemed more fair based on the little I know. On a side note, I am new enough to not know what went on before I was here, why some users are banned and who are they (illumia, koko, etc). I accept that my opinion and agreement is of low value due to the circumstances, but I fail to see what I did wrong to make many users dislike me apart from me being enthusiastic.
I don't think alot of users dislike you it's just tegumi might be in rage mode so just let her cool off and she'll be back to normal.
i actually hate him...
Pretentious try hard faggot... this Is what j think of him
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Drifter995 wrote...
Kona-chan wrote...
Sgt.broski wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
>agree with the first thing you like and read nothing else
This is why nobody likes you
I agreed with Peltor because it seemed more fair based on the little I know. On a side note, I am new enough to not know what went on before I was here, why some users are banned and who are they (illumia, koko, etc). I accept that my opinion and agreement is of low value due to the circumstances, but I fail to see what I did wrong to make many users dislike me apart from me being enthusiastic.
I don't think alot of users dislike you it's just tegumi might be in rage mode so just let her cool off and she'll be back to normal.
i actually hate him...
Pretentious try hard faggot... this Is what j think of him
I think you guys are judging him a little too harshly, he's one of the few people I've noticed that actually admit their flaws and wrongdoings then tries to correct them to appease the community. I've lurked here for some time and pretty much everyone goes through a similar phase and he's made a few pretentious comments but isn't that the fault of I.B.? It's pretty clear to me when he made those comments he was just trying to fit in and gain approval, it didn't seem natural to his personality. All I'm trying to say is that you should cut the guy some slack. You're kind of acting like your own shit doesn't stink too you know? We all have our problems.
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Waar wrote...
I did however get asphodel, circe, and sam something to leave her alone at one point when she felt harassed.I cherished every moment we spent together.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Drifter995 wrote...
Kona-chan wrote...
Sgt.broski wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
SolidShark wrote...
>agree with the first thing you like and read nothing else
This is why nobody likes you
I agreed with Peltor because it seemed more fair based on the little I know. On a side note, I am new enough to not know what went on before I was here, why some users are banned and who are they (illumia, koko, etc). I accept that my opinion and agreement is of low value due to the circumstances, but I fail to see what I did wrong to make many users dislike me apart from me being enthusiastic.
I don't think alot of users dislike you it's just tegumi might be in rage mode so just let her cool off and she'll be back to normal.
i actually hate him...
Pretentious try hard faggot... this Is what j think of him
Suddenly, that list is starting to look even longer now, huh? :^)
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
I don't hate anyone, I just don't understand why they'd do such thing. I wanna ask, but that would give them the impression that I hate them...
