Kamp Kuzma: The Operators' Campgrounds (For Operating)
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                        Data Zero
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                Lance177 wrote...
Galil? I think you can use the same as for AK.5.56 isn't 7.52
Also, i found out i like bullpup weapons.
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                        Well ofc NATO 5.56mm isn't comparable to 7.62 Soviet but the weapon system of Galil is nonetheless same to that of an AK since they based it off one. 'Sides, there are a lot of AKs that chamber for 5.56mm now like the Russian AK-100 series(105 and 106) as well as a lot of American civvie AKs.
Bullpups are good concept, I'll admit. I do like some of their look but really lost my taste for it when I fired our military's service rifle, F88 Austery(licensed AUG)
                Bullpups are good concept, I'll admit. I do like some of their look but really lost my taste for it when I fired our military's service rifle, F88 Austery(licensed AUG)
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                        Data Zero wrote...
Btw, you all are in military right?
Sorry kid. I have +5 dioptre. Barely can see without glasses and our country's military is in such a horrible shape I am not sure I would even want to serve if I wasn't half blind... Our APCs cost the same as M1 Abrams, we have two operational tanks (our of some 300 in storage) and jets that do not rot away in hangars are on lease from JAS.
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                        Yeap, sad to say but Kei is only one you'll be calling Sempai. If you got a job here, you'd be calling us Sempai then.                    
                
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                        Also to join the discussion I agree that 5.56 and 7.62 are not comparable cartriges because they are developed for different things but just happened to serve in the most powerful militaries of it's times.
The only thing I don't really like on AUG is the progressive trigger since it is something that requires more extra training than flipping a switch from PEW to PEW PEW PEW and would be prone to waste of ammo under combat stress.
I also like bullpups because I think they have more advantages to classic styled rifles but must be designed more properly. like Tavor.
                The only thing I don't really like on AUG is the progressive trigger since it is something that requires more extra training than flipping a switch from PEW to PEW PEW PEW and would be prone to waste of ammo under combat stress.
I also like bullpups because I think they have more advantages to classic styled rifles but must be designed more properly. like Tavor.
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                        Lance177 wrote...
The only thing I don't really like on AUG is the progressive trigger since it is something that requires more extra training than flipping a switch from PEW to PEW PEW PEW and would be prone to waste of ammo under combat stress.I also like bullpups because I think they have more advantages to classic styled rifles but must be designed more properly. like Tavor.
Funny, I was just explaining that to a friend yesterday. That is definitely one of the things I dislike about AUG.
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                        Data Zero
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                Lance177 wrote...
Also to join the discussion I agree that 5.56 and 7.62 are not comparable cartriges because they are developed for different things but just happened to serve in the most powerful militaries of it's times.The only thing I don't really like on AUG is the progressive trigger since it is something that requires more extra training than flipping a switch from PEW to PEW PEW PEW and would be prone to waste of ammo under combat stress.
I also like bullpups because I think they have more advantages to classic styled rifles but must be designed more properly. like Tavor.
TAR-21. thing looks nice.
I played MW2. That gun was badass and served me through hell.
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                        I think the Chinese QBZ-95 is a nice looking bullpup, could stand to make it a bit more modular though.                    
                
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                        What else you dislike on AUG? (I like the export version more because of rails that the traditional scoped ones) I must say I love the quick change barrel feature and still don't get why the hell would the Aussies getting rid of that on their new upgrade of AUG.                    
                
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                        Data Zero
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                『Valentine_K1S5〠wrote...
I think the Chinese QBZ-95 is a nice looking bullpup, could stand to make it a bit more modular though.FPS russia showed M14 Rogue.
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Looks nice and me wanty to be honest.
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                        Indeed, I thought the quick change barrels were one of its beauty points but I am really disappoint in my country for thinking that removing that feature is an upgrade to it.
EDIT: Looks very blocky imo, space gun is all I can think of it. A good bullpup is Desert Tactical's SRS or HTI rifle. Bolt action but it's a very slim profile.
                EDIT: Looks very blocky imo, space gun is all I can think of it. A good bullpup is Desert Tactical's SRS or HTI rifle. Bolt action but it's a very slim profile.
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                        Yeah I dunno what are people in charge of that project thinking with that...
While the "bullpuping" the rifle is an interesting idea I am sure it won't really work for many guns. Like the M16 because of the buffer spring housing constructions... I also like if the gun is Ambi... The only reason why I don't already own and carry a VZ 82 in 9mm Mak is that those surplus that get to domestic market are usually that in a poorest state. :-/ The good stuff went to America again.
So while making M14 a bullpup is a cool idea I would be conflicted if it doesn't suffer in terms of reliability and also 7.62 is quite powerful cartridge and over penetration is a bitch when counting a wounding factor in case of military engagement.
                While the "bullpuping" the rifle is an interesting idea I am sure it won't really work for many guns. Like the M16 because of the buffer spring housing constructions... I also like if the gun is Ambi... The only reason why I don't already own and carry a VZ 82 in 9mm Mak is that those surplus that get to domestic market are usually that in a poorest state. :-/ The good stuff went to America again.
So while making M14 a bullpup is a cool idea I would be conflicted if it doesn't suffer in terms of reliability and also 7.62 is quite powerful cartridge and over penetration is a bitch when counting a wounding factor in case of military engagement.
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                        Indeed. Bullpups are excellent rifles for CQB though so you'll see a lot of them in intermediate cartridges and pistol calibers. Personally, I'd like to see HK try to bullpup their HK43 or other rifles.                    
                
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                        HK45 bullpup eh? Well might be interesting... Would require a whole new sights.
I really like the Magpull PDR because it is a 5.56 PDW that so freaking small yet still efficient up to 300 meters while not using some exotic ammo and magazines (both are to STANAG standards) I hope this gun will see the actual production
                I really like the Magpull PDR because it is a 5.56 PDW that so freaking small yet still efficient up to 300 meters while not using some exotic ammo and magazines (both are to STANAG standards) I hope this gun will see the actual production
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                        Data Zero
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                『Valentine_K1S5〠wrote...
Indeed. Bullpups are excellent rifles for CQB though so you'll see a lot of them in intermediate cartridges and pistol calibers. Personally, I'd like to see HK try to bullpup their HK43 or other rifles.There was a gun called G11. Thing looked wierd, yet it was small. It shot 5mm caseless if i remember it right. Wasnt bullpup, magazine was on the top.
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                        Magpul PDR is something I'd like to see as a real firearm. So far it's only gotten to production in their PTS division as an airsoft rifle.
@Data, G11 be the original space gun, it had a very interesting system that was for sure. Would I use it? Don't think I would.
EDIT: Well boys, Kei is over atm so he'll be sharing my posts at times.
                @Data, G11 be the original space gun, it had a very interesting system that was for sure. Would I use it? Don't think I would.
EDIT: Well boys, Kei is over atm so he'll be sharing my posts at times.
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                        Pretty standard bullpup rifles. Anybody can tell you about the initial problems L85/SA80 had before the Germans worked their magic and made it a bearable service rifle.
FA MAS has a long track record as well but the French are phasing it out from their airborne divisions opting for more modern rifles like FN SCAR or HK416, I don't know which they're going for but that is being discussed.
                FA MAS has a long track record as well but the French are phasing it out from their airborne divisions opting for more modern rifles like FN SCAR or HK416, I don't know which they're going for but that is being discussed.
