Waifu Game 8: Chat Thread.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Dr. Nyar wrote...
Because I noticed that I sounded unintentionally hostile.Meh, I am used to it. You could have simply changed the tone, that is if you feel the point is still valid.
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Furude Rika is not Frederica Bernkastel. There's still no exact evidence of that.
And, Furude Rika is from Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, and Frederica is from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni.
It is posible that Frederica is the alternate dimension version of Furude Rika but hey, even Ushiromiya Battler and Maebara Keiichi resemble each other. Miyo and Lambdadelta also same as this.
The most notable theory is : Furude Rika is a doll that is created by Frederica herself, same like Miyo and Lambdadelta.
And thus, I think both people are different people.
And, Furude Rika is from Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, and Frederica is from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni.
It is posible that Frederica is the alternate dimension version of Furude Rika but hey, even Ushiromiya Battler and Maebara Keiichi resemble each other. Miyo and Lambdadelta also same as this.
The most notable theory is : Furude Rika is a doll that is created by Frederica herself, same like Miyo and Lambdadelta.
And thus, I think both people are different people.
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Waar wrote...
To me this indicates all three characters are in fact the same. Whichever claim came first (Bernkastel, Frederica Bernkastel, Rika Furude) is the only valid claim. I'm not going to get deeper into the debate of whether they're different characters at this point, for the same reasons why I wont touch any card captor sakura debates; to try and sort through them all is something I dont have time for in my life. Different theories exist and I'm telling you as the games creator which theory I accept.Current Waifu List wrote...
Furude Rika (Higurashi no Naku Koro ni) - Koko7With that, congratulations Miss Koko (Koko7)
On top of the 4 Hetallia manfus you have, you now have 3(Waar says) more waifus instead of just 1(others would say).
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Looky-tan wrote...
Waar wrote...
To me this indicates all three characters are in fact the same. Whichever claim came first (Bernkastel, Frederica Bernkastel, Rika Furude) is the only valid claim. I'm not going to get deeper into the debate of whether they're different characters at this point, for the same reasons why I wont touch any card captor sakura debates; to try and sort through them all is something I dont have time for in my life. Different theories exist and I'm telling you as the games creator which theory I accept.Current Waifu List wrote...
Furude Rika (Higurashi no Naku Koro ni) - Koko7With that, congratulations Miss Koko (Koko7)
On top of the 4 Hetallia manfus you have, you now have 3(Waar says) more waifus instead of just 1(others would say).
Lol, I didn't even notice that. Koko beat them all~
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Circe wrote...
Lol, I didn't even notice that. Koko beat them all~Yup, she's the only user with 7 waifus/manfus
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
You're right, I must be the only one who believes they're all the same person... right?
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Waar wrote...
You're right, I must be the only one who believes they're all the same person... right?Still on topic, but not trying to discredit either side, but I am just curious.
Have you seen either of the two series Waar? Doesn't matter if you did or didn't. I myself am just curious if you saw the shows or not.
Myself...
Spoiler:
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Waar wrote...
On the matter of Bernkastel:Two quotes:
Frederica looks very similar to Furude Rika, as she is the overall culmination of Rika's existence on the Higurashi gameboard. This is implied in Matsuribayashi-hen that when talking about Rika she refers to Rika as "I" or "me".
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Bernkastel shares many ties with Rika Furude from Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.
It has been stated in an interview that she is the personality of the 100-year-old witch Rika seperated herself from in Saikoroshi-hen and is the crystallization of only the cruelest parts left over from the 100-year-old witch. It is possible this 100-year-old witch is Frederica.
It has been stated in an interview that she is the personality of the 100-year-old witch Rika seperated herself from in Saikoroshi-hen and is the crystallization of only the cruelest parts left over from the 100-year-old witch. It is possible this 100-year-old witch is Frederica.
To me this indicates all three characters are in fact the same. Whichever claim came first (Bernkastel, Frederica Bernkastel, Rika Furude) is the only valid claim. I'm not going to get deeper into the debate of whether they're different characters at this point, for the same reasons why I wont touch any card captor sakura debates; to try and sort through them all is something I dont have time for in my life. Different theories exist and I'm telling you as the games creator which theory I accept.
As much as I humbly respect your ruling, Mr. Waar, I still oppose to this because I totally believe Bernkastel and Frederica Bernkastel are different entities.
It is true that Frederica Bernkastel shares many ties with Furude Rika, based from your second quotation, but it doesn't mean that Frederica Bernkastel and Furude Rika from Higurashi no Naku Koro ni are the same as "Bernkastel" from Umineko no Naku Koro ni. Furthermore, there might be some personality resemblance between the characters of the two series, but in fact, they are not really the same in terms of each respective games' story, character roles, and setting. The name Furude Rika or Frederica Bernkastel were not mentioned even once on the Umineko series, neither the name Bernkastel on the Higurshi series. Bernkastel has a tail because she is a cat, while the other two don't.
Here is a screenshot of the actual game to prove the aforementioned statement and the dilemma regarding the true name of Bernkastel in Umineko no Naku Koro ni.
http://i.minus.com/iL8TC1PxOceKk.jpg
I think you got that quotation from this site, so I will also quote something from it.
http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Frederica_Bernkastel
"The name Frederica Bernkastel comes from the name Rika originally used in Saikoroshi-hen FURUDERIKA-Bernkastel; eventually this became "Frederica Bernkastel"."
Their names are also different for each corresponding games.
http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Frederica_Bernkastel - Frederica Bernkastel (Higurashi no Naku Koro ni)
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Bernkastel - Bernkastel (Umineko no Naku Koro ni)
Despite all these, it is hardly implied without substantial evidence that Frederica Bernkastel and Bernkastel are the same entity; therefore, it is safe to say that they are really different, as far as the game is concerned. Furthermore, all of the assumptions and possibilities that were mentioned in the wikis are just mere opinion or point of view of a person. (It seems Ryukishi07 likes to troll the players due to the nature of his works.)
In any case, I just stated my opinion regarding this matter. Your ruling still prevails whatever is your stance to this dilemma.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Looky-tan wrote...
Have you seen either of the two series Waar? Ive watched most of higurashi(first two seasons if I remember correctly) but only the first 10 of so episodes of Umineko(which is God awful btw).
Harontiar wrote...
As much as I humbly respect your ruling, Mr. Waar, I still oppose to this because I totally believe Bernkastel and Frederica Bernkastel are different entities.That is your right but what I said stands.
It's not clear whether they are or not but the creators have made the links and as there is no clear answer I picked the side that made most sense to me. Until the day a definitive answer comes from the creators this is how things will be for the purpose of this game.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Times like these, I wish someone could just fucking ask the author...
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Im going to stop responding on the matter. You have the condition of my reversal so until the author tells me whats up this is how things will remain.
Badgering me until I cave is not likely.
Badgering me until I cave is not likely.
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Hey Waar... If we have questions regarding the eligibility of certain characters, should we pm you about it?
[size=5]I feel like I've asked this before though...[/h]
[size=5]I feel like I've asked this before though...[/h]
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
kickiluxxx wrote...
I hereby claim Sonsaku Hakufu from the Ikkitousen series.Never thought I would see anyone claim Hakufu. You can stand her stupidity I guess?
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echoeagle3 wrote...
kickiluxxx wrote...
I hereby claim Sonsaku Hakufu from the Ikkitousen series.Never thought I would see anyone claim Hakufu. You can stand her stupidity I guess?
I'll just say I prefer the manga version of her.
Also, it's alright. Stupidity isn't contagious so I'll be fine.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
kickiluxxx wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
kickiluxxx wrote...
I hereby claim Sonsaku Hakufu from the Ikkitousen series.Never thought I would see anyone claim Hakufu. You can stand her stupidity I guess?
I'll just say I prefer the manga version of her.
Also, it's alright. Stupidity isn't contagious so I'll be fine.
The way the world's going now, it may as well be. Besides, it's not the contagion that's the problem. It's taking care of it, lol.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Zandorf wrote...
Hey Waar... If we have questions regarding the eligibility of certain characters, should we pm you about it?[size=5]I feel like I've asked this before though...[/h]
Sure.
