What if you can travel back in time???
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blind_assassin wrote...
I like the "well it would cause X so it wouldn't matter" arguments when if you want to get all uptight about the logic you'd just say that actually going back in time to redo past events is impossible in the first place. And don't say that quantum physics allows for it some shit like that because the actual allowance for "time travel" isn't the cartoon "OMG Dinosaurs!" scenario people think it means.I don't think I'd go back in time if I could. Unless I could somehow take my brain back and turn into a kid again then redo kindergarten with a university level intellect. I'm sure I'd deeply regret it by the time I turned 6 and was being constantly shoved in front of a camera to read Chaucer or something but it'd be cool to be able to appreciate my childhood as an adult.
Exactly; there are a lot of different possibilities because of how impossible it is. More a fantasy than a scientific prospect at this time.
Also, I should remind folks that things always seem different looking back on them. after time you idealize or demonize certain things in your past that you pick out either to blame for your current condition or to pine for the days of your youth again. It's probably nothing like you remember it if you were to go back and live it.
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depends on wether you retain the experience and knowledge of now or not...
lets just say that with it, you could do some crazy shit back in your childhood
lets just say that with it, you could do some crazy shit back in your childhood
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If we're talking about reliving past events with your current knowledge, I'd love to go back about seven, eight years to when I was in high school. Not to "enjoy my youth" or anything like that. I just remember that a lot of girls in my high school were hot, and I never got to fuck any of them. I spent most of my time in high school thinking, about life and philosophy and crap like that. Now, I've figured everything out that I want to figure out, and I could devote my time to hooking up with high school girls.
If we're talking about just visiting the past, I probably wouldn't be too interested. I don't really care about the past too much, and there's nothing that happened in the past that I'm dying to see. I might go back in time and kick Walt Disney in the balls. That'd be cool. That guy was an ass, but not such a huge ass that kicking him in the balls would change time or anything. I think if I kicked Hitler in the balls, that'd have serious ramifications. He might kill more people or attack another country more aggressively because he was angry and his balls hurt.
If we're talking about just visiting the past, I probably wouldn't be too interested. I don't really care about the past too much, and there's nothing that happened in the past that I'm dying to see. I might go back in time and kick Walt Disney in the balls. That'd be cool. That guy was an ass, but not such a huge ass that kicking him in the balls would change time or anything. I think if I kicked Hitler in the balls, that'd have serious ramifications. He might kill more people or attack another country more aggressively because he was angry and his balls hurt.
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Sadly, the fantasy woven in games like Chrono Trigger are simply that. Chaos Theory and Quantum Mechanics suggest that you cannot change the course of history, even if you were to go back in time somehow. What would happen, however, would be the creation of an alternate universe. Decisions change the course of history and whether or not you do something here doesn't mean that you would have done the opposite in another place and time.
This world doesn't stop existing just because you disappear, be it by your choice or otherwise. Thinking it will just so you can create something more to you liking is a very childish mindset. Dwelling in the past will ruin your future.
This world doesn't stop existing just because you disappear, be it by your choice or otherwise. Thinking it will just so you can create something more to you liking is a very childish mindset. Dwelling in the past will ruin your future.
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stuff, lots of stuff that i would have liked to do,
and change the stuff that i regretted doing. ;]
and change the stuff that i regretted doing. ;]
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nightclock wrote...
Sadly, the fantasy woven in games like Chrono Trigger are simply that. Chaos Theory and Quantum Mechanics suggest that you cannot change the course of history, even if you were to go back in time somehow. What would happen, however, would be the creation of an alternate universe. Decisions change the course of history and whether or not you do something here doesn't mean that you would have done the opposite in another place and time.This world doesn't stop existing just because you disappear, be it by your choice or otherwise. Thinking it will just so you can create something more to you liking is a very childish mindset. Dwelling in the past will ruin your future.
You could also say that anything you do in the past you've already done to bring time to the present. So your actions in the past are irrelevant.
Or, again, the idea that we only experience the most likely of worlds, and all things that could have happen already did.
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Dante1214 wrote...
You could also say that anything you do in the past you've already done to bring time to the present. So your actions in the past are irrelevant.
Or, again, the idea that we only experience the most likely of worlds, and all things that could have happen already did.
I like the sound of that, as well as the truth it holds.
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If I could go back in time, I'd prevent myself from making this post.
Alternately, here's a list of things I would do:
Travel to Concord, Massachusetts on April 19, 1775, and bring a race-starter pistol.
Travel to the Yucatan Peninsula shortly before the Mayans died out and spread some Anthrax.
Record Albert Einstein's last words.
Call Alexander Bell right after he finished the telephone.
Invade New Jersey during the original War of the Worlds broadcast with my giant robot army (I'm assuming I have one by the time Time Travel is perfected).
Kill Schrodinger's cat.
Alternately, here's a list of things I would do:
Travel to Concord, Massachusetts on April 19, 1775, and bring a race-starter pistol.
Travel to the Yucatan Peninsula shortly before the Mayans died out and spread some Anthrax.
Record Albert Einstein's last words.
Call Alexander Bell right after he finished the telephone.
Invade New Jersey during the original War of the Worlds broadcast with my giant robot army (I'm assuming I have one by the time Time Travel is perfected).
Kill Schrodinger's cat.
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I would kill this "Jesus" guy and introduce reason a couple thousand years early. I'd be flyin on a fuckin Jetson craft to work by now
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If I was granted the ability to time travel I would
1). Go back in time to meet the Founding Fathers so talk with them.
2). Ask them to clarify constitutional arguments we have today (abortion, separation of church and state)
3). Convince my grandmother to invest in Mattel.
4). Convince my parents to invest in Google, Microsoft and similar companies that are successful today. Also inform then on the dates they should sell their investments in certain companies.
5). Make myself help out more around the house when I am younger. That and smack myself around to get a job sooner.
1). Go back in time to meet the Founding Fathers so talk with them.
2). Ask them to clarify constitutional arguments we have today (abortion, separation of church and state)
3). Convince my grandmother to invest in Mattel.
4). Convince my parents to invest in Google, Microsoft and similar companies that are successful today. Also inform then on the dates they should sell their investments in certain companies.
5). Make myself help out more around the house when I am younger. That and smack myself around to get a job sooner.
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Well, if by traveling back in time, you mean that I can also move myself back to the exact location in the universe that the earth should be in when I select that time (being at this exact location in space 30 years ago might be cold and lacking of oxygen), then I would go back and trace the bullet that killed John Kennedy and once and for all end the dispute of who killed him. Then I might squeeze in Kurt Cobain and Marilyn Monroe for good measure.
After that, I would go find my cat.
After that, I would go find my cat.
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cap1200am wrote...
Well, if by traveling back in time, you mean that I can also move myself back to the exact location in the universe that the earth should be in when I select that time (being at this exact location in space 30 years ago might be cold and lacking of oxygen), then I would go back and trace the bullet that killed John Kennedy and once and for all end the dispute of who killed him. Then I might squeeze in Kurt Cobain and Marilyn Monroe for good measure.After that, I would go find my cat.
I can see it now . . .
The News wrote...
Unfortunately, cap1200am was killed by an unknown assailant before he could tell the world the truth.
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Moses wrote...
If you changed anything that happened in the past you wouldn't be who you are today. I regret nothing and I want to change nothing.
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Probably not a change a thing. Though I would like to bring back a dinosaur or two...then again, I wouldnt want things to go all "A Sound of Thunder" on me.
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nightclock wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
You could also say that anything you do in the past you've already done to bring time to the present. So your actions in the past are irrelevant.
Or, again, the idea that we only experience the most likely of worlds, and all things that could have happen already did.
I like the sound of that, as well as the truth it holds.
It does sound very nice and clean. It's certainly not the BEST of all worlds.
GourmetPrince wrote...
I would kill this "Jesus" guy and introduce reason a couple thousand years early. I'd be flyin on a fuckin Jetson craft to work by nowFirstly, Jesus was pretty much a just a hippie who rolled around with some fishermen telling people to be nice and whatnot. The actual historic human being, that is.
Secondly, Making a change so major so far back in time, the world would likely change drastically, and there is no way to be sure it would be all too positive.
Thirdly, what you would consider reason now, would not likely seem to back then.
Just saying.
Haven't seen you around in a while, though, so good to see you.
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Make myself Santa. Come on now, who doesn't want me coming down their chimney? I'd leave presents for the kids and presents for the perverts. I'd be one hell of a Santa.