[Locked] FAKKU State of the Union 2016

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Romana wrote...
XenotheWise135 wrote...
Now, if only Fakku would stop extracting chapters from subscriptions because they know it'll be compiled into a book they could sell later...


... Huh? When have we done this?


Well, as far as I'm aware, aren't most tankobon published chapter by chapter in a magazine like a serialization, and then compiled afterwards? Considering that some of the artists in Fakku books appear in the subscription magazines, I could only assume, y'know?

And I guess assuming makes an ass out of me, so I guess I shouldn't have tossed such an accusation around. Sorry >.>
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
XenotheWise135 wrote...
Romana wrote...
XenotheWise135 wrote...
Now, if only Fakku would stop extracting chapters from subscriptions because they know it'll be compiled into a book they could sell later...


... Huh? When have we done this?


Well, as far as I'm aware, aren't most tankobon published chapter by chapter in a magazine like a serialization, and then compiled afterwards? Considering that some of the artists in Fakku books appear in the subscription magazines, I could only assume, y'know?

And I guess assuming makes an ass out of me, so I guess I shouldn't have tossed such an accusation around. Sorry >.>


https://www.fakku.net/forums/front-page-news/fakku-subscription-questions/page/15#4512910

Tl;dr
Most likey if the artist doesn't balk the magazine chapter will stay if they're in a tankobon later.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Arlen10 wrote...
I believe means that while Paypal subscriptions are not possible, using Paypal as a payment option for most of everything else, seems to be okay. Maybe there could be a work around by using Paypal to add money to a "wallet" balance, then using that balance to pay for subscriptions/books/merch etc.


This has been debunked many times, as this is loopholing Paypal, and that's one thing that will truly blow up in Fakku's face when PAypal founds out.
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blackice85 FAKKU! Gold
Kaimax wrote...
Arlen10 wrote...
I believe means that while Paypal subscriptions are not possible, using Paypal as a payment option for most of everything else, seems to be okay. Maybe there could be a work around by using Paypal to add money to a "wallet" balance, then using that balance to pay for subscriptions/books/merch etc.


This has been debunked many times, as this is loopholing Paypal, and that's one thing that will truly blow up in Fakku's face when PAypal founds out.


Yup, as they've said and I've repeated, they specifically have people watching for loopholes, they're not stupid. They're not following some law and will just decide to look the other way because they don't actually care, they do. Supposedly it's related to higher rates of fraud amongst digital adult content, but whatever the reason it's their rule and they're serious about it.
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Well its really interesting now that uve got ur fans and made a name for urself started to think of rightfullness. Yesssss definitely interesting. Ok bro, its ur call. Where i live i dont have these options of paying through internet ,getting goods from foreign sites and acting as noble as u. So thanks for these years and by.
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While sad that I can't fap to doujiins no more, the content being given out is pretty great.

Still sad I can't read dragon's cream anymore though.

....

Fuckin tentacles man. They're amazing.
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I'm in. I'm not against piracy nor do I endorse it. It's the question of whether I can buy it without getting caught by Interpol or FBI. I like Napata, Homonculus, UDON Ya, etc, and I'm totally OK with spending my money on them. However, I also like my loli collection (Ayami, Rustle, Tsuruta Bungaku, Fujisaki Hikari, Onizuka, Himeno Mikan, etc). Loli was never part of Fakku so I'm for.

PS: Jacob, I hate you for adding more pettanko tank since it hurts my pocket.
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Papa Nito Enemy Stand
Kiyoshi-Dono wrote...
I came back again to say you really fucked up jacob.theres is no reason for me to live anymore. Fakku. Good luck on your new fucked up rules


I can imagine a tombstone engraved with "Hentai was a mistake".

But seriously. I always see the common line of "Who pays for hentai?", all while I think "Who gets salty over hentai?" You may want to consider doing something else with your life, if this is how drawn porn affects you.
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Hi hi hi hi
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Hey. One of your lurking fans for 2 years now.

It sucks you guys took the other hentais away. But illegal is lame so i dont mine paying!

Plus i was given two famazing posters at anime expo 2 ish years ago from your booth as a raffle.....you guys are great and the hentai is so great to!
I hope you guys come out with lots of chikkan. Its my favorite.

-Goddess Antheia
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zolek147 wrote...
I'm in. I'm not against piracy nor do I endorse it. It's the question of whether I can buy it without getting caught by Interpol or FBI. I like Napata, Homonculus, UDON Ya, etc, and I'm totally OK with spending my money on them. However, I also like my loli collection (Ayami, Rustle, Tsuruta Bungaku, Fujisaki Hikari, Onizuka, Himeno Mikan, etc). Loli was never part of Fakku so I'm for.

PS: Jacob, I hate you for adding more pettanko tank since it hurts my pocket.


It's not illegal to own 18+ manga, so you shouldn't be wanted by the FBI for buying porn...

In regards to loli, currently such depictions are in a legal grey area due to parts of the PROTECT Act being ruled unconstitutional on a federal level.

Laws regulating lolicon and shotacon differs between states; several states have laws that explicitly prohibit cartoon pornography, while others usually have only vague laws on such content.

In some states, such as California, such depictions specifically do not fall under state child pornography laws, while the state of Utah explicitly bans it.

So if you're worried about loli/shota stuff, look up your local laws first on what they consider to fall under that category of pornography.
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Well, as result from removing the unlicensed content from Fakku, I've moved from Fakku to Doujin-Moe and bought there subscription. Reasons are simple:
1) They have normal favorites system.
2) They have all unlicensed content, including content that was removed from Fakku.
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WarStalkeR wrote...
Well, as result from removing the unlicensed content from Fakku, I've moved from Fakku to Doujin-Moe and bought there subscription. Reasons are simple:
1) They have normal favorites system.
2) They have all unlicensed content, including content that was removed from Fakku.


..... this is all kinds of wrong....

But okay. It's your money. You do you.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
WarStalkeR wrote...
Well, as result from removing the unlicensed content from Fakku, I've moved from Fakku to Doujin-Moe and bought there subscription. Reasons are simple:
1) They have normal favorites system.
2) They have all unlicensed content, including content that was removed from Fakku.


..... this is all kinds of wrong....

But okay. It's your money. You do you.


Well... he just bought a sub for shit they don't OWN. So instead of doing the most oblivious thing of pirate pirated stuff and buy or not buy legal content He paid for pirated stuff... it's not wrong but retarded.

Like saying fuck you netflix, i'll pay for torrents.
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blackice85 FAKKU! Gold
animefreak_usa wrote...
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
WarStalkeR wrote...
Well, as result from removing the unlicensed content from Fakku, I've moved from Fakku to Doujin-Moe and bought there subscription. Reasons are simple:
1) They have normal favorites system.
2) They have all unlicensed content, including content that was removed from Fakku.


..... this is all kinds of wrong....

But okay. It's your money. You do you.


Well... he just bought a sub for shit they don't OWN. So instead of doing the most oblivious thing of pirate pirated stuff and buy or not buy legal content He paid for pirated stuff... it's not wrong but retarded.

Like saying fuck you netflix, i'll pay for torrents.


I know right? At least if you're going to pirate, don't pay for it lol.
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WarStalkeR wrote...
Well, as result from removing the unlicensed content from Fakku, I've moved from Fakku to Doujin-Moe and bought there subscription. Reasons are simple:
1) They have normal favorites system.
2) They have all unlicensed content, including content that was removed from Fakku.


Just so you are aware, Doujin-Moe does not support the industry nor the scanlator scene at all. They download scanlations that they had zero part in and stick it behind a paywall.

So not only are you supporting the piracy of the works from the artists, but you're also supporting the theft of works by scanlators.

I hope you're just trying to troll, because honestly, that's the worst choice anyone could make.
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Been away from Fakku for a while and just found out about this. My perspective:

For years, my way of supporting artists I like has been to buy the official mangas themselves directly from Japan. This is often a difficult process, since a lot of things are out of stock and thus hard to find, and I have to order them through a proxy since Japanese stores typically don't offer international shipping.

Now, if I had never had the chance to read the content before buying the mangas, I wouldn't have bought them. When I read "pirated" stuff on other sites, my most often reaction is "Meh." - I do not like this enough to read it again or read more of it. If I did pay the subscription, I would be paying only for a couple of chapters from artists that I like - this is not enough. Yes, most of the content is decent, and I respect the people who made it, but it's not something I'd pay to read, or perhaps even read for free when there's other stuff I prefer more. In the end, me pirating stuff has brought profit to the artists themselves, and them specifically.

I have the same approach with video games. If I'm not sure if something is good, I'll pirate it. If it turns out to be good, I'll buy it 99% of the time. Steam has made things so accessible (on Linux as well) and affordable that I'll often buy stuff that I haven't even played and only assume that I'll like. But I get to choose. I get to choose which "artists" to support, and I feel good supporting studios who I think make good games instead of EA and the likes. FAKKU doesn't offer that. I can only support artists that someone else put on the list, and it doesn't even go directly to them, but to magazine publishers.

There's also the issue of pricing. Steam has different prices for different regions, since people in different countries make different amounts of money. One could make 5-10 times more money by doing the same work in the US or any rich and developed country than they get paid here. Steam at least somewhat reflects that, EU2 pays less than US and EU1 (not to mention regions like Russia). It's STILL not balanced enough for all countries, but I feel at least somewhat better about it, it shows they understand the differences in economies and that some people simply CAN'T pay so much, even though they'd like to, so they're forced to pirate stuff.

Expecting someone from my country to pay the same as someone from Japan is absurd, their standard is way higher than ours. If things were fair, I'd be paying 10% of what they do, and I'd settle for 50% or 70% easily, but I end up paying 150% due to shipping, proxy fees, etc. The industry ends up beating on the poor, who are actually willing to pay, but they just can't. Would you buy a 200-page book that had a $150 price tag, or would you just pirate it? (This is most apparent with anime releases, mangas have at least somewhat comparable prices.)

In the end, I'm also quirky and like having physical books, even though I never open them and only read digital versions. I feel I'm entitled to the content, and while I'm sorry that I don't support scanlators, this is the closest thing to a distribution model I'd consider ideal. If I could pay +30% to get a scanlation as well, I would, but things are not officially licenced that way at this time.

To summarize:
- Content is not easily available outside of Japan, thus leading people to pirate it.
- Pricing of the content is inappropriate for poor economies, global services run by intelligent people reflect this. It's better to get half of the money than no money at all, right?
- People such as myself don't like paying for things they might not like, thus resulting in additional white piracy.
- FAKKU doesn't even allow users to support artists they like. Instead I'd have to pay a subscription for content of which I'll end up skipping 80-90%.
- There isn't even enough available content to rival other sites, legal or not.
- Gimme my paper editions.

Thank you, but no.
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623 FAKKU QA
Intelus wrote...

- Pricing of the content is inappropriate for poor economies, global services run by intelligent people reflect this. It's better to get half of the money than no money at all, right?

Fakku is nowhere as near as big as Steam. It's a shitty situation, but who knows if Fakku actually can adjust the price by region, especially when the service has only been around for less than 6 months.
Intelus wrote...
- People such as myself don't like paying for things they might not like, thus resulting in additional white piracy.

I can sympathize with this, but new content is always being added and if you don't like it, just cancel.
Intelus wrote...
- FAKKU doesn't even allow users to support artists they like. Instead I'd have to pay a subscription for content of which I'll end up skipping 80-90%.

That's what the books are for. Buy books to support specific artists. Jacob said he wants all artists in the subscriptions to be represented so that new artists get exposure and not just popular ones, which I can respect since I've actually come to like new artists as a result of the subscription.
Intelus wrote...
- There isn't even enough available content to rival other sites, legal or not.

Well, yeah, Fakku is starting from square one. I use Fakku in conjunction with other sites like Exhentai.
Intelus wrote...
- Gimme my paper editions.

Jacob said they might do a once a year "best of" edition, but it would be ridiculous to try and print monthly 400-500 pages each for two magazines in conjunction with the books and other projects with their team of like, 12.
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Intelus wrote...


- Content is not easily available outside of Japan, thus leading people to pirate it.
- Pricing of the content is inappropriate for poor economies, global services run by intelligent people reflect this. It's better to get half of the money than no money at all, right?
- People such as myself don't like paying for things they might not like, thus resulting in additional white piracy.
- FAKKU doesn't even allow users to support artists they like. Instead I'd have to pay a subscription for content of which I'll end up skipping 80-90%.
- There isn't even enough available content to rival other sites, legal or not.
- Gimme my paper editions.

Thank you, but no.


1) I agree with the scarcity argument but your logic of pirating is absurd. Reading Hentai is not a necessity. It is a luxurious good. It's like you're telling me you will steal a box of ice cream because somebody is eating them and you are not.

2) I'm all for this part. Fakku should ask the artists to put out at least one page for each chapter for advertising purpose.

3) What are you talking about? I don't pay for subscription myself because I don't believe that I should pay for things that I don't want. However, I do pay for things I like by buying books. I discovered my two new stars days ago (mogg and hamao) and it was an instant buy from me. Did I support them? Yes, I did because they deserve it.

4) Content wise, that is your subjective argument. "Enough" or "not enough"? Who gets to make the call? Suppose your major is Economics, do you care about the mechanism of how NT buds off from the neuron and fuse with another membrane? Fakku has consistent, clean, legal, and high resolution content and it fits my criteria. Other sites don't have all of that. So I say Fakku has "enough" material. On the other hands, other people are not satisfied with the quantity. They want more things despite a drop in quality, so they say it's "not enough".

5) Paper edition? Are you talking about compiling magazines into an issue and print it off? I think they will do it eventually if their business is doing well.

1-sentence summary: It's your life, do whatever you want.
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623 FAKKU QA
zolek147 wrote...
2) I'm all for this part. Fakku should ask the artists to put out at least one page for each chapter for advertising purpose.

If you mean what I think you mean, you actually can see a page from each chapter on each preview thread for a magazine.