How to court her, if your ugly!!!

From a guy to a guy:

1)Man up.
2)People who call themselves losers, are losers.
3)Stop blaming yourself, because I do not feel sorry for you.

Now me being somewhat sincere:

1) I would stop talking to her completely, Texts, Phone calls, in person, ect.
2) Time heals all wounds
3) You learn from your mistakes, so this was not a wasted effort.

Seriously? You're going to say this seriously?

You have two choice. You are a very horrible person who tells people to keep trying on something they will never achieve and will only gain them more misery.

You are a just a retard that doesn't understand that telling someone to keep trying is telling them they have a chance at it.

Either way, you are an idiot. But you can either be an oblivious idiot, or you can be a inhuman idiot.

(Btw, if you didn't get it. Yes you did say he had a chance, just not directly.)

Lol, is that how you always argue/defend your point? By insulting them to the point where you just seem extremely childish? I don't get what you were trying to achieve by calling me inhumane or a retard.

My point was that if he can improve himself he may have a chance with her.

Right now (him being all down on himself?) No. He doesn't stand a chance.
With a little bit of work (Going to the gym, buying better clothes, not going to church dates) He may have a chance.

Insults =/= Argument.

You only made ONE valid statement which was towards he very end. Everything else was completely subjective.

Which is you saying he has a chance.

You don't seem to fucking understand why I'm calling you an idiot.

Not because you were making a point. But because you contradicted and won't even stand by the point you are making because you don't even realize what you were fully making.

I only needed one valid point because there was only one point to make.

On the actual subject on hand. No he doesn't have a chance. Because she's not interested in him, at all. Him doing things like working out and buying better clothes would increase his chances.

But you can't increase a chance when you are multiplying into zero.

You are misinterpreting what Rayne said. She is saying that he doesn't have a chance now, but that if he took the time to invest in himself then there is no reason he couldn't have a chance in the future. She can't help it if you are reading more into what she is saying that what it is she actually meant to say. You don't know if she is interested in him. You aren't in her head, you don't live there, you don't know the specifics.


And it doesn't matter why you are calling someone an idiot - your method of insults and attempts to belittle others does nothing but diminish and respect or credibility your own argument would carry.

Yes. Because somehow I misinterpreted someone saying, and I quote, as saying that a person didn't have a chance. How could that have ever happened!

I'm well aware what they think it actually says. It doesn't say that. Mostly I just ignore someone trying to save face when shown to have contradicted themselves. Though I guess this is why you are popping in now huh.

As for the actual topic on hand. People act like specifics change things drastically for most things. In most cases, they don't. They just give more details to the already general idea you know.

In cases like this, it would just paint more reasons why he doesn't have a chance. The fact that the behavior is as expected from the given situation, yeah it is a safe bet to go there.

Come on guys let's all get along, no fighting.

I'm sorry, but all I can manage to do when I come across one of your posts is to stare are you avy wondering when she is going to show her tits.

Especially when all I see is a embedded youtube video with spongebob and patrick. Robin's tits are way more interesting.

Holy fuck. You're still going at it?

You're not adding anything new to this thread apart from insulting anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view.

If you're not here to help, then just leave.

Btw, saying he has no chance multiple times isn't helping. Stop posting the same shit. We know. You think he has no chance. You've quoted almost anyone who posts here and disagrees with that statement JUST to say that over and over.

I have no new advice to give seeing as how he hasn't updated us since the church-date. So, I'll be out. I believe Kali needs to chill out though. Seems to take things way too seriously and gets really mad over the stupidest things.

I'm pretty sure she realizes your serious... In fact, I think that basically sums up your problem.

You are too desperate. I know that to you it may feel like you're doing the right things, being nice, trying your hardest and all that. But if you seem desperate - if you are just over doing it in your efforts - then she is going to be able to tell immediately. Any girl will tell you that they can smell desperation coming from a mile away. That is the short and simple answer, you are just trying to hard.

The only thing you can really do now is to change your mindset. You have to focus on just trying to be a cool guy to her, some one who is a friend. You already telegraphed to her that you were interested and she shot you down. Anymore attempts to get her to like you will make you seem like a stalker. If you just try to make her laugh or try to make her smile and that's it, you leave her alone, then maybe sometime down the line in the future she might be open to the idea again.

Just learn from this - don't try to hard or you'll seem desperate and look like a stalker.

I think the problem there was because you were in the friend zone when you asked her out. But now that you're out of that god forsaken place, you now have a real chance of getting this lady to like you more than a friend. Don't count yourself out yet. My advise is change you're style (hair,clothes,ect.), and upgrade how you look. Show her that you are not her friend anymore. Make yourself busy, make new friends and hangout with those guys or "girls" <--this is even better. Still talk to her from time to time (be nice and cut it short, you don't wanna go back to that lonely zone). The goal here is to make her see you as a new man. After that waiting period try asking her out again but make sure to say that you want to take her out on a date. Have confidence in yourself or at least fake it because girls love confident guys. If she rejects you then move on (none of that EMO crap and find a girl that will like you for who you are, who knows...she might get jealous when you are looking for this lucky girl). Good luck...not that you need it.

Maybe I was trying to hard...Your probably right, I was trying too hard because I really like her, ever since I've known her I already like her as a girl. I've been admiring her for 3years. I can't even make myself like other girls because she is the one I've always wanted. I'm not being desperate I just want her, hope you understand the feeling of struggle that I feel not having the girl I want..



I already started changing my lifestyle, I change my looks, my beliefs, I exercise more often to loss weight and I even change the way I talk. Yet I can't change the way I feel. Have you ever feel when you look at someone then you'll feel like your having goosebumps in you brain and you turn into a numb person, in other word I'm always nervous when she's around.

I think I really need the luck that you were mentioning. Hope you'd understand more the way I feel towards this girl I'm talking about.

Plastic surgery.