the end of loli?
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Spoiler:
I'd like to say that is just because everyone is passionate about it, but no. More like too lazy to look back only a handful of pages in Random to find one of the other dozens of threads bringing up the same thing.
Then again I don't have much right to complain since I responded in this thread instead of just ignoring it.
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Hentanize wrote...
Their comments are amusing me.I'm not into loli but they said everything under 18 is going to be banned? Like, wtf? Not on my internet that's for sure.
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Kind of Important wrote...
How can you put an age on something drawn...?I don't understand, the character can look anyway the artist wants, regardless of 'age'
i completely agree with you
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
neyapuckachinha wrote...
I didn't know what Toddlercon was.I consider that a good thing.
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Nashrakh wrote...
neyapuckachinha wrote...
I didn't know what Toddlercon was.I consider that a good thing.
You corrupted me.
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Just to clear things up...I'm sick of seeing soooo many loli ban topics...let this be the last...and hide your stash! >.>
1. The United States
The current law, part of the PROTECT Act of 2003 (aka the Amber Alert law), states that possession and/or transfer of hand-drawn depictions of minors in sexual situations that are also obscene-- prurient, patently offensive, and lacking in any serious value as viewed by the average person --is illegal. The only person convicted under this statute ONLY for hand-drawn depictions since it was enacted is Christopher Handley, who pleaded guilty to the charges. However, a similar law was thrown out by the Supreme Court in the past, so whether this law would withstand the Court's examination is unclear.
2. Canada
Currently, any visual or written depiction of sexual activity by real or imaginary minors (under 18) are illegal, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification is accepted by the court. Child pornography is an "offence tending to corrupt morals" under the Canadian criminal code. In 2005, an Alberta man was arrested for importing manga magazines depicting child sexuality. The man, Gordon Tshun Chin, claimed he did not know it was illegal and was sentenced to 100 hours of community service, counseling, and he was barred from using the Internet for 18 months and was added to the national sex offenders list-- but the latter was because he had previously been charged with child molestation.
3. The United Kingdom
In 1978, the Protection of Children Act made child pornography illegal, and the 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 added on that a "pseudo-photograph" is also illegal. In 2009, the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 made all sexual images depicting minors-- regardless of whether they were derived from photographs or pseudo-photographs --illegal to possess. "Sexual images" are here defined as depictions of minors participating in sexual activities or sexual activities taking place in the presence of those under 18. This law passed in 2009 and went into effect on April 6, 2010.
4. The Philippines
In 2003, the Philippines signed the United Nations Optional Protocal to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution, and Child Pornography, making child pornography a crime. In November of 2009 a harsher law, the Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009, was signed. This law covers "any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, of a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities." The definition of "child" explicitly includes any computer-generated, digitally, or manually crafted image of a person who is or is made to appear to be a child. The Philippines have had trouble in the past with child pornography and prostitution; it remains to be seen how much they will devote resources to fictional child pornography.
5. Germany
Germany's child pornography laws include images of real and fictional people under the age of 18, or who appear to be under 18 to the "average viewer." Distribution of such materials are prohibited although possession is only criminal if the materials depict a real person under 18.
6. Brazil
From my research, Brazil has not yet established case law or statutory law covering virtual child pornography at this time. As it stands, pornography featuring children is illegal.
7. France
France is a signatory nation of the aforementioned Optional Protocal to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which does not specify any stance on hand-drawn or virtual child pornography.
8. Indonesia
Pornography of any kind is illegal in Indonesia.
9. Mexico
Mexico is also a signatory nation on the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, and child pornography is illegal, but no specific references to simulated or drawn child pornography are made in its laws.
10. Australia
Australia has a zero-tolerance policy for child pornography, and their laws include fictional children as well as real ones. In 2007 an Australian man was fined $9,000 for importing eight hentai DVDs; he had no "real" kiddy porn. In 2008, New South Wales Supreme Court judge Justice Michael Adams famously said that "...a fictional cartoon character, even one which departs from recognizable human forms in some significant respects, may nevertheless be the depiction of a person within the meaning of the Act." Writer Neil Gaiman followed up by suggesting that Australia had just granted human rights to all cartoon characters. More recently, Australia's Classification Board declared that they will no longer classify adult films that feature small (A-cup) breasts as they may encourage pedophilia.
That said-- are you surprised by who bans (or doesn't ban) what?
1. The United States
The current law, part of the PROTECT Act of 2003 (aka the Amber Alert law), states that possession and/or transfer of hand-drawn depictions of minors in sexual situations that are also obscene-- prurient, patently offensive, and lacking in any serious value as viewed by the average person --is illegal. The only person convicted under this statute ONLY for hand-drawn depictions since it was enacted is Christopher Handley, who pleaded guilty to the charges. However, a similar law was thrown out by the Supreme Court in the past, so whether this law would withstand the Court's examination is unclear.
2. Canada
Currently, any visual or written depiction of sexual activity by real or imaginary minors (under 18) are illegal, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification is accepted by the court. Child pornography is an "offence tending to corrupt morals" under the Canadian criminal code. In 2005, an Alberta man was arrested for importing manga magazines depicting child sexuality. The man, Gordon Tshun Chin, claimed he did not know it was illegal and was sentenced to 100 hours of community service, counseling, and he was barred from using the Internet for 18 months and was added to the national sex offenders list-- but the latter was because he had previously been charged with child molestation.
3. The United Kingdom
In 1978, the Protection of Children Act made child pornography illegal, and the 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 added on that a "pseudo-photograph" is also illegal. In 2009, the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 made all sexual images depicting minors-- regardless of whether they were derived from photographs or pseudo-photographs --illegal to possess. "Sexual images" are here defined as depictions of minors participating in sexual activities or sexual activities taking place in the presence of those under 18. This law passed in 2009 and went into effect on April 6, 2010.
4. The Philippines
In 2003, the Philippines signed the United Nations Optional Protocal to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution, and Child Pornography, making child pornography a crime. In November of 2009 a harsher law, the Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009, was signed. This law covers "any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, of a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities." The definition of "child" explicitly includes any computer-generated, digitally, or manually crafted image of a person who is or is made to appear to be a child. The Philippines have had trouble in the past with child pornography and prostitution; it remains to be seen how much they will devote resources to fictional child pornography.
5. Germany
Germany's child pornography laws include images of real and fictional people under the age of 18, or who appear to be under 18 to the "average viewer." Distribution of such materials are prohibited although possession is only criminal if the materials depict a real person under 18.
6. Brazil
From my research, Brazil has not yet established case law or statutory law covering virtual child pornography at this time. As it stands, pornography featuring children is illegal.
7. France
France is a signatory nation of the aforementioned Optional Protocal to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which does not specify any stance on hand-drawn or virtual child pornography.
8. Indonesia
Pornography of any kind is illegal in Indonesia.
9. Mexico
Mexico is also a signatory nation on the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, and child pornography is illegal, but no specific references to simulated or drawn child pornography are made in its laws.
10. Australia
Australia has a zero-tolerance policy for child pornography, and their laws include fictional children as well as real ones. In 2007 an Australian man was fined $9,000 for importing eight hentai DVDs; he had no "real" kiddy porn. In 2008, New South Wales Supreme Court judge Justice Michael Adams famously said that "...a fictional cartoon character, even one which departs from recognizable human forms in some significant respects, may nevertheless be the depiction of a person within the meaning of the Act." Writer Neil Gaiman followed up by suggesting that Australia had just granted human rights to all cartoon characters. More recently, Australia's Classification Board declared that they will no longer classify adult films that feature small (A-cup) breasts as they may encourage pedophilia.
That said-- are you surprised by who bans (or doesn't ban) what?
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
Copypasta from Wikipedia?
As far as I understand it, Loli is legal in Germany. The laws concerning this are worded in such a way that they also include drawn CP in the form of actual CP that has been artistically modified (to make it look like a drawing). The scenarios have to be highly realistic and "life-like", whatever that means.
(Don't quote me on that though, been a while since I last looked it up.)
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
As far as I understand it, Loli is legal in Germany. The laws concerning this are worded in such a way that they also include drawn CP in the form of actual CP that has been artistically modified (to make it look like a drawing). The scenarios have to be highly realistic and "life-like", whatever that means.
(Don't quote me on that though, been a while since I last looked it up.)
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
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jmason
Curious and Wondering
Well, they do try to ban "virtual child porn", but I can see possibilities for a niche growth for the "virtual adult-with-the-body-of-a-child porn" genre if that happens. Mark my words.
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Nashrakh wrote...
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
Wait, then you can only watch or read German porn in German?
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
neyapuckachinha wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
Wait, then you can only watch or read German porn in German?
Well, commercial distributors are allowed to import and sell it. So we can only legally get whatever shit they offer us.
And Hentai is pretty dead.
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Nashrakh wrote...
neyapuckachinha wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
Wait, then you can only watch or read German porn in German?
Well, commercial distributors are allowed to import and sell it. So we can only legally get whatever shit they offer us.
And Hentai is pretty dead.
Way to control population...
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Nashrakh wrote...
neyapuckachinha wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
Now what's funny is, Germany banned imports of all forms of porn. Hilarious.
Wait, then you can only watch or read German porn in German?
Well, commercial distributors are allowed to import and sell it. So we can only legally get whatever shit they offer us.
And Hentai is pretty dead.
Oh yeah! just fucking awesome, but they keep selling REAL porn. Fuck the world
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Shawn2005x wrote...
4. The Philippines
In 2003, the Philippines signed the United Nations Optional Protocal to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution, and Child Pornography, making child pornography a crime. In November of 2009 a harsher law, the Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009, was signed. This law covers "any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, of a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities." The definition of "child" explicitly includes any computer-generated, digitally, or manually crafted image of a person who is or is made to appear to be a child. The Philippines have had trouble in the past with child pornography and prostitution; it remains to be seen how much they will devote resources to fictional child pornography.
this law will never be fulfilled because of the bold part... our government dose not devote resources to this kind of things.... the biggest proof is that I can still buy loli hentai on the street sidewalk DVD vendor...