What would you say your political ideology is?

It's kind of like mixing oil and water if you try to blend the systems together. Marxist schools on "public property" seek to put all business, schools,etc in the hands of the state. The state acts as a proxy for the people because the state serves the people at least in theory.

While conservative and Libertarian schools see public property as the tyranny since with private business you can go to another company to work or do business with but, if the state owns all then you're stuck. Like cell phone companies, if company A sucks then you go to B but, if the state owns the cell phone company it won't matter which one you go to, if you even have a choice.

Maybe if businesses were owned as some sort of worker cooperative but, give the founder of the person who created the business or the idea for the business some sort of control as to who is hired, fired,etc. Though there may be problems when everybody wants to work for International company A instead of working for Local-hole-in-the-wall-shop A.

You may be right about state socialism, but I'm not talking about that... I was more referring to small-scale communes. I can see it work that way - either join a collective or go work for a company. A coexistence of both would also mean (at least to my understanding) that you don't have to sell your labor to those with private property (as most people have to nowadays), only if you do so voluntarily.

State socialism obviously has the disadvantage of centralized power not only over economic affairs, something I could not agree with.

I do like the idea of smaller communities and through them are the only way communism and or Anarchism can work in any form. I can't recall off the top of my head how Anarchistic economies would work and prevent things like monopolies.

IMHO the left-right spectrum is WAAAAAY outdated. There are so many different parties or ideals on the same side of the spectrum that it's no longer a true measure of what you believe in.

Personally I prefer the Pournelle chart:



I'm Centrist, somewhere between Welfare Liberals and Libertarians as far as my economic principles go, however in human liberties and social security I'm a bit more socialist.

I value justice over freedom, as in each person has an inherent right for living decently (health-care, education, food, etc.) and through *some* means (not necessarily state intervention, more like regulation) the state and the people have a responsibility to maintain this net. You don't have an inherent right for luxury, you don't have an inherent right for wealth and prosperity. The later two will have to come through your own effort. A just society regulates the market - keeping it free - so that you have a chance to do so.

you are a spartacist?

I think you asked me that before... no, I don't belong to any special group or party.

i believe in fascism with a bit of nazism (i'm not a pure nazi).
because communism is rampant here with demonstrators and militants, i aligned with the fascist beliefs because i don't believe that communism will change our country's image and the way our leaders deal with corruption,so my country (the philippines)shall be ruled with an iron fist to enforce the law.

@Flaser

The "various conservatives" are on the wrong side of the "rational" line. They are more accuratly next to the counter culture group. Anybody who listens to even five minutes of American talk radio would agree. Neocons fall into where "various conservatives" should be.

Neocons worship the state while traditional conservatives (paleocons) believe the state to be inherently evil.

Other than that nitpicking it's spot on for American politics.

Edit:



We're close to agreement. Like you I believe it is the states responsibility to make sure we have equal opportunity in the workplace and equal protection under the law. I differ from liberals on "equality" since I don't want everybody to have an equal amount of material wealth. I just want people to have the opportunity and are not unfairly shut out due to religion, sex, age,etc. The fruits of our labor can be unequal (based on work ethics and similar factors) as long as everybody has the equal opportunity to get into the fray to begin with.

If a woman does 100% equal work in quality and time as a man she should receive 100% equality in pay but, if she's taking more days off or doesn't produce as much she shouldn't receive equal pay because it's not equal work.

We just disagree on how much regulation is needed.

This strategy worked the first time, let's watch....

That's what I was thinking, but I like to think all forms of government have their legitimacy, but rather the person(s) executing it will never be able to get rid of their own selfish desires. Ah, poor Communism.

That is not what I was thinking.
The Third Reich began as "the lesser of two evils", with the Nazi party and the Communist party being the largest of the time.
I'm saying that this is dangerous thinking.

I am an anarchist at heart. but since most people can't live that way, outside a post apocalyptic setting, it's more practical to be a socialist.

I hold no political ties; I simply call things on a case-by-case basis and as I see them. Independent I guess.

Hmm, the thing is, in a post-apocalyptic setting, people would be more likely to adopt to the "survival of the strongest" (yeah, not "fittest") rule pretty quick.

Think Fist of the North Star, I think that one is a pretty accurate description in my book, with warlords and stuff.

I think everything related to politics just sucks.

Not just that, but puppets on the fingers of puppeteers as well. The real big corporations get their way no matter if the left or right is in power.

The U.S. Constitution has been trampled on by both right and left wingers, centrists, liberals, conservatives, etc, to suit their own needs and special interests (Obviously).

I would side with small government, or dismantle our current government and start anew. All that aside, however, I would fall within the lines of fusionism (libertarian-conservatism).

This is all a bit of a moot point though. I seriously doubt anyone here would run for public office, the paper trail of this site would be a career killer. Haha

Guess you don't know FPOD then.