Aliens...do you believe in them?
Do you believe in aliens?
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Rezumi wrote...
He tells me what I'd call ghost facts instead of ghost stories. He would share what they look like, how they would act, why they stand around. Small things..
One example of what he told me.. Your body and spirit are connected by some umbilical cord thing that extends when the spirit leaves the body. Ie. dreaming. It's the reason why people feel like they're falling when they suddenly woke up from sleep. It's the type of waking up that doesn't require your system boot up of your mind... I don't know how to explain it further. Why you feel the falling feeling? When you dream, your spirit literary leaves the body and goes to wherever you're dreaming.. (In theory, this is how 2 spirits can dream together; going to the same spot). And when some poop happens to where your body is and you needa wake up.. You cant wake up if your body and spirit aren't intact... so that cord yanks ya badly n you jump back to reality. (This is why spirits don't fall in the wrong body...). If you already knew this... then blah... I'm slow.
watching ghost hound lately????.........
Rezumi wrote...
"seeing is believing"........have you seen your brain??? if not then you dont have 1......LOL....XD....
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Psychics, ghosts, aliens on earth, planet X, Area 51 conspiracy, and astral projection. I've written you off at this point but I'm curious as to whether or not there is anything you don't believe. Like, do you believe in big foot and stuff?
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Rezumi wrote...
I can see that my sights upon the alien topic is far-fetched. My information exists within real life connections. The videos I have linked here are but small "realistic" additional information that can be taken in into mind. The biggest sorts of hardcore info are within the people around you.Psychics so to speak.
If you just went :o :? :shock: :lol: seeing the word.. "Psychic".. Then please ease yourself and don't read my following story as to why I believe in such a lousy idea.
It's extensively long...
I have first taken interest in paranormals back in 2005. Year 10, I have sat next to an odd person throughout the year. He's the type who you'd call a loner or plain weird.
I don't judge people by how they look on the outside... so I talked to him. Soon after getting to know him a bit. He tells me that he sees non-visible beings. Spirits or Ghosts.
I know that "seeing is believing" when it comes to human judgment... but I sat and kept my mind open.
He tells me what I'd call ghost facts instead of ghost stories. He would share what they look like, how they would act, why they stand around. Small things..
One example of what he told me.. Your body and spirit are connected by some umbilical cord thing that extends when the spirit leaves the body. Ie. dreaming. It's the reason why people feel like they're falling when they suddenly woke up from sleep. It's the type of waking up that doesn't require your system boot up of your mind... I don't know how to explain it further. Why you feel the falling feeling? When you dream, your spirit literary leaves the body and goes to wherever you're dreaming.. (In theory, this is how 2 spirits can dream together; going to the same spot). And when some poop happens to where your body is and you needa wake up.. You cant wake up if your body and spirit aren't intact... so that cord yanks ya badly n you jump back to reality. (This is why spirits don't fall in the wrong body...). If you already knew this... then blah... I'm slow.
Anyhow... I've taken interest and have been researching for these 3 years. During the time. I've met 3 other people who have these similar sightings. One in US, one in Brunei, the other in Australia. All 3 told me the same lot of logic in the spiritual stuff.
More to the point..
Recently, the one in aus told me more than the other mediums (the name of the type of people who sees things...). He tells me that humans aren't the only lot of spirits in this world. He knows they're flying about above our world. But he doesn't know why they're here. Additionally... these aliens aren't from the same spirit stream as we are. (ie. if you believe in heaven and hell... these aliens don't go to them when they die. They go to their own heaven or hell somewhere...if it exists for them).
I know the dude in real life; Been friends for 2 years and only found out this year that he is a medium.
There are lot of what you might call "stories" behind every recorded events. For example, the hanging gardens of Babylon are believed to have been destroyed by an earthquake. According to my friend, he tells me that his spiritual companion (which normal people can't see) disagrees with the story. Instead, the spirit said that the hanging gardens were stolen by the lil grey aliens. To land and colonize(?) or something like that. The spirit also said that human evolution from ape to human thing... is a cover up to the event as to how humans "appeared" here.
I should remind you that you judge for yourself. Not by asking others if it's real or fake.
The additional info from youtube, from blossom goodchild (A psychic who failed to show us aliens exist; Still additional info), from my australian friend, the articles from NT News (Australia) and all other news and conspiracies (eg. Area 51) in relation the aliens tells me that we are not seeing the whole picture. If you still think this is supremely unreasonable and absurdly fake. Then I'm sorry...
I know I've written extra unrelated stuff to the topic... But it is how I came to realize that we are not alone right now on this planet.
The main reason why aliens are showing up all of a sudden in your daily routine?
2012. It is the year when the so called "Planet X" (Planet Nibiru) is returning back it's orbit around the sun. The problem about Planet X is that it is going to pass earth within 15 million kilometres. Therefore... gravitationally screwin up how our earth spins. I hate to keep saying this... but to properly believe it is to wait til 2010 or 2011, when the planet itself is visually visible to the human eye.
Another reason is what you all believe in... Our world is broken. Since they've been watching us urinate ourselves, they decided to step in before we bomb ourselves further to death. Humans have the same intentions as they are... Some zoos or forests are kept safe for endangered animals to live in. Stuff like that.
Reminder... Judge for yourself. I cannot say if I truly think Planet X is coming, but I still don't have a convincing reason as to why aliens are not here already... ie. there are more reasons why aliens are here compared to why they aren't here.
I'm sorry, but was this your attempt to prove that you were NOT a crazy person? If so...I'm calling shinanigans.
Now, I can't say absolutely that everything you've said is entirely incorrect, but really only becuase there are no absolutes and everything is possible, even at probabilities that seem infinite.
There isn't really any proof to substantiate your claims, aside from what people have told you, so...it's basiclly religion. all faith.
If you CAN prove something, I'd be entirely open to it, however.
Also, there was a 2012 thread somewhere around here. But I don't think anyone brought up the planet x thing.
I would like to add on here, that I can understand wanting to believe in these kinds of things, and I can understand how interesting they are, but all the same, you can't hold things to be true just because you want them to be.
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I'm not gonna answer lame questions or reply to non-thoughtful comments....
I'm a scientific type of person even though I believe in what you'd call faith n all that crap. I base my thoughts on information that exceedingly pile up. Eg. more than 10 "factual" resources. Not stories. I also find information off people themselves. Everyone has their secrets. Most of them stay silent and act normal. Else, they'd disappear into mental centers.
Big foot? I have never heard of any evidence in relation to them... only stories. Eg. no fossils found that suggests their existence...
It really is an attempt. There's only a few million people on this planet who would understand me. I was hoping to find one here.
All faith yes. But I'm no religious person. Spirits only show up if you believe it... if not, then tough luck. You'll see them as "It's just my imagination" or "I'm just paranoid". Believers or open minded people will see more since they're free to intake any paranormal things in their everyday life. There is no such realistic proof as to show normal people that spirits exist. It is the main reason why the world today is not spiritual. If it can be proven... then the world woulda knew everything already. Even the meaning of life can be achieved if it could be proven (Which isnt 42 imo...).
All I can do is show some vids...
Cyril Takayama. A trickster who uses telekinesis to screw around normal people. Cyril's one person who I think isn't a bluff.
I did a little research into 2012. Like, what's on 2012 and why it's somewhat popular. Here's a link for Nibiru.
I didn't want them to be true initially. I've first taken interest and wanted to know more. In the end, this is what I have.
I just asked myself "What if" they existed. "What if" there's information about them. "What if" those crazy people weren't so crazy afterall.
If I get a chance to prove it, I will. At the moment, the only way for me to prove it is to film myself move something without touching it. Everyone can learn Telekinesis... Just that not many know how. As unfortunate as it seems, I'm too crap to do telekinesis, all I can do is see aura colours. (Mine's blue).
Keep in mind that you are still in a stage where "The world is as it appears". Therefore, new information that are absurd to you, are unacceptable to your mind. If you wish to not know more, that's fine. Skeptical behavior is natural to humans. But please keep an open mind to "just in case shit happens" type of deal. (so you don't go crazier than me if they suddenly show up or something)
blind_assassin wrote...
Psychics, ghosts, aliens on earth, planet X, Area 51 conspiracy, and astral projection. I've written you off at this point but I'm curious as to whether or not there is anything you don't believe. Like, do you believe in big foot and stuff?I'm a scientific type of person even though I believe in what you'd call faith n all that crap. I base my thoughts on information that exceedingly pile up. Eg. more than 10 "factual" resources. Not stories. I also find information off people themselves. Everyone has their secrets. Most of them stay silent and act normal. Else, they'd disappear into mental centers.
Big foot? I have never heard of any evidence in relation to them... only stories. Eg. no fossils found that suggests their existence...
Dante1214 wrote...
I'm sorry, but was this your attempt to prove that you were NOT a crazy person? If so...I'm calling shinanigans.It really is an attempt. There's only a few million people on this planet who would understand me. I was hoping to find one here.
Dante1214 wrote...
There isn't really any proof to substantiate your claims, aside from what people have told you, so...it's basiclly religion. all faith. If you CAN prove something, I'd be entirely open to it, however.All faith yes. But I'm no religious person. Spirits only show up if you believe it... if not, then tough luck. You'll see them as "It's just my imagination" or "I'm just paranoid". Believers or open minded people will see more since they're free to intake any paranormal things in their everyday life. There is no such realistic proof as to show normal people that spirits exist. It is the main reason why the world today is not spiritual. If it can be proven... then the world woulda knew everything already. Even the meaning of life can be achieved if it could be proven (Which isnt 42 imo...).
All I can do is show some vids...
Cyril Takayama. A trickster who uses telekinesis to screw around normal people. Cyril's one person who I think isn't a bluff.
Dante1214 wrote...
Also, there was a 2012 thread somewhere around here. But I don't think anyone brought up the planet x thing.I did a little research into 2012. Like, what's on 2012 and why it's somewhat popular. Here's a link for Nibiru.
Dante1214 wrote...
you can't hold things to be true just because you want them to be.I didn't want them to be true initially. I've first taken interest and wanted to know more. In the end, this is what I have.
I just asked myself "What if" they existed. "What if" there's information about them. "What if" those crazy people weren't so crazy afterall.
If I get a chance to prove it, I will. At the moment, the only way for me to prove it is to film myself move something without touching it. Everyone can learn Telekinesis... Just that not many know how. As unfortunate as it seems, I'm too crap to do telekinesis, all I can do is see aura colours. (Mine's blue).
Keep in mind that you are still in a stage where "The world is as it appears". Therefore, new information that are absurd to you, are unacceptable to your mind. If you wish to not know more, that's fine. Skeptical behavior is natural to humans. But please keep an open mind to "just in case shit happens" type of deal. (so you don't go crazier than me if they suddenly show up or something)
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You're actually pretty much the least scientific person I've ever met. Aside from bigfoot you seem to literally believe everything under the sun. Faith and science can be separate (such as simply believing that God put the universe in motion and invented evolution, physics, etc) but when you say things like "Humans can do telekinesis" you're making a claim that has a scientific basis without any evidence to support it and in the face of a great amount of evidence to the contrary. There's a difference between being "open-minded" and "having faith" and believing nonsense for no good reason. I'm fond of the saying "It's great to have an open mind but not so open your brains fall out".
The problem with what you're saying isn't just that it's not something I personally believe in but that your thought process is all over the place and contradictory. You said that you don't listen to anecdotes (good for you) and then that you get information from people directly, which is listening to anecdotes.
Your claim that we know everything scientific is also outrageously misguided. Not only that your view of what science means seems incorrect but that science is easy and a static database of information. Modern science has had a few hundred years to unravel 14 billion years of happenings. Science takes a long time to learn things because it's the act of understanding the material universe. To put it simply, once we learn something truthful it becomes science. If ghosts were proven to be fact they would become part of science. The example of learning an objective meaning of life is worthless since personal value is not a scientific question.
As for Cyril, he's clearly a magician/mentalist. I mean, he's doing coin tricks, not moving things with his mind.
Finally, skeptical behaviour is the exact opposite of natural human behaviour. The human brain is designed to naturally believe things without questioning them. The hypothesis for this is that it goes back to caveman times where if you saw a bush rustle you'd figure "tiger" rather than "I should investigate" because the latter is more likely to get you killed.
Real scientists and skeptics like to be proven wrong. When someone discovers that, yes indeed Uranus' orbit is being screwed up by a yet unknown planet, it creates a new thing to study and learn. When we learn that, no, there is no Planet X, it's nice to not have to rewrite textbooks but it's a shame that we don't get a new thing to study.
The problem with what you're saying isn't just that it's not something I personally believe in but that your thought process is all over the place and contradictory. You said that you don't listen to anecdotes (good for you) and then that you get information from people directly, which is listening to anecdotes.
Your claim that we know everything scientific is also outrageously misguided. Not only that your view of what science means seems incorrect but that science is easy and a static database of information. Modern science has had a few hundred years to unravel 14 billion years of happenings. Science takes a long time to learn things because it's the act of understanding the material universe. To put it simply, once we learn something truthful it becomes science. If ghosts were proven to be fact they would become part of science. The example of learning an objective meaning of life is worthless since personal value is not a scientific question.
As for Cyril, he's clearly a magician/mentalist. I mean, he's doing coin tricks, not moving things with his mind.
Finally, skeptical behaviour is the exact opposite of natural human behaviour. The human brain is designed to naturally believe things without questioning them. The hypothesis for this is that it goes back to caveman times where if you saw a bush rustle you'd figure "tiger" rather than "I should investigate" because the latter is more likely to get you killed.
Real scientists and skeptics like to be proven wrong. When someone discovers that, yes indeed Uranus' orbit is being screwed up by a yet unknown planet, it creates a new thing to study and learn. When we learn that, no, there is no Planet X, it's nice to not have to rewrite textbooks but it's a shame that we don't get a new thing to study.
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blind_assassin wrote...
You're actually pretty much the least scientific person I've ever met.That's because I mixed science with faith. This is your own comment of me. I can agree that many others in this community will undoubtedly say the same thing. However, I am not alone in the want to understand life further than just physically.
blind_assassin wrote...
but when you say things like "Humans can do telekinesis" you're making a claim that has a scientific basis without any evidence to support it and in the face of a great amount of evidence to the contrary.I cannot show any sense of evidence due to the fact that the world sees it as fake. The type of evidence I hold are all based within spiritual understanding. For example, at times we randomly shiver. Not because it's cold, just a random shiver. This is because energy is scattered and the body did not maintain it. Surely, anyone can say that it's a random sort of thing that comes in everyday life. I cannot sound convincing unless spiritual logic is at use. Why it's logical? because this shivering can be called upon anytime the person wants to. Generating energy within the body then.. losing it. It shows that the person is a newbie at it and is trying soemthing..
blind_assassin wrote...
There's a difference between being "open-minded" and "having faith" and believing nonsense for no good reason. I'm fond of the saying "It's great to have an open mind but not so open your brains fall out".I'm still open-minded. I can't quite pinpoint whether having faith is the right word being this far in research. Believing nonsense has their reasons. Using spiritual energy has their benefits. Such as healing parts of the body without any medical treatment.
blind_assassin wrote...
The problem with what you're saying isn't just that it's not something I personally believe in but that your thought process is all over the place and contradictory. You said that you don't listen to anecdotes (good for you) and then that you get information from people directly, which is listening to anecdotes.That is because the information I've laid here are not structured accordingly. It takes time to properly convince a science person. It took me half a year sitting next to my classmate in 2005 before I was properly convinced by some personal proof.
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3 years isn't what I'd call a short amount of time. Considering that 3 years is 1/6th of my lifetime. Sure my mates had "stories" to tell, like how seeing ghosts screwed his everyday life and how he saw this one dude die from a heart attack. But the information I took in were his random claims as how spirits act and all that. I refuse to believe that he has made up all of what he's claimed within the instances of when we talked without flinching throughout the year.
blind_assassin wrote...
To put it simply, once we learn something truthful it becomes science. If ghosts were proven to be fact they would become part of science.That is how I see it. If I could, I'd replace the word "belief" to "fact" to the things I've mentioned. However, it isn't easy to claim it as fact. Several people tried, and they got mowed down like how I am atm.
blind_assassin wrote...
The example of learning an objective meaning of life is worthless since personal value is not a scientific question.I am not the only person in this world who claims such nonsense. This site is dedicated to paranormal science. This guy is doing his own research in paranormals. And this person wrote a whole book just to try relate paranormal thinking into science.
I know my references are not creditable as there are no signs of reliability upon them. The point is that there are others like me who are studying in order to understand. Of course I don't record them on paper like people who are scientists.
blind_assassin wrote...
As for Cyril, he's clearly a magician/mentalist. I mean, he's doing coin tricks, not moving things with his mind.I understand your pattern of thinking. I hope this video shows more than hands going through glass and coins coming out of hands. Cyril is only one source of information. I'll understand if this is still considerably fake. If the concluding thoughts after watching this video is "He has strings", then I cannot further try to explain how he does it; As it seems that whatever I say has that sense of "nonsense" and "not thoughtfully claimed".
blind_assassin wrote...
Finally, skeptical behaviour is the exact opposite of natural human behaviour. The human brain is designed to naturally believe things without questioning them. The hypothesis for this is that it goes back to caveman times where if you saw a bush rustle you'd figure "tiger" rather than "I should investigate" because the latter is more likely to get you killed.I see skeptical behaviour as "That aint logical, it's fake. If there's no hard evidence, it's fake. Whatever you're saying, it's nonsense". I agree that is how natural human behaviour normally are. But it still doesn't take away that humans are naturally skeptical if they don't understand it. That caveman must've had experience before naturally seeing the rustling bush as danger. I would say that the caveman would've pondered what could be in there at first with caution, if he never had experience in relation to it before.
Your statement agreed upon what I've said. That is, normal people judged on the spot based on what they already know without investigation.
blind_assassin wrote...
Real scientists and skeptics like to be proven wrong. When someone discovers that, yes indeed Uranus' orbit is being screwed up by a yet unknown planet, it creates a new thing to study and learn. When we learn that, no, there is no Planet X, it's nice to not have to rewrite textbooks but it's a shame that we don't get a new thing to study.Yeah... I can't say anything more. I am the only lunatic here.
Seeing that many people here unquestionably agree that my claims are of stupidity, I'll stop my rant here :/ I've had enough trying to defend my position... Atleast you know what and how I'm thinking.
Thread is out of topic, I know sorry isn't enough, but I'm sorry to have caused unwanted ruckus here.
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Rezumi wrote...
That's because I mixed science with faith. This is your own comment of me. I can agree that many others in this community will undoubtedly say the same thing. However, I am not alone in the want to understand life further than just physically.That doesn't make sense. You're changing the definition of science since it's the study of a material universe. Something that is understandable by science is material. Mixing it with faith doesn't work. They can exist at the same time but any intersection destroys them both.
Rezumi wrote...
I cannot show any sense of evidence due to the fact that the world sees it as fake. The type of evidence I hold are all based within spiritual understanding. For example, at times we randomly shiver. Not because it's cold, just a random shiver. This is because energy is scattered and the body did not maintain it. Surely, anyone can say that it's a random sort of thing that comes in everyday life. I cannot sound convincing unless spiritual logic is at use. Why it's logical? because this shivering can be called upon anytime the person wants to. Generating energy within the body then.. losing it. It shows that the person is a newbie at it and is trying soemthing.Again, this is unscientific which makes it incredibly unconvincing. If you want to convince someone scientifically (i.e. actually prove it in an unquestionably manner) you can't throw out terms like "spiritual understanding" and "spiritual logic". Your explanation of shivering is also, not to sound too crass, nonsensical. "Energy" is not any form of substance. It's the stored capacity to perform a measurement of work (usually heating water or something).
By the way, "shuddering" (the correct term for non-cold related body spams) is done by the body to restore circulation through light muscle activity.
Rezumi wrote...
Using spiritual energy has their benefits. Such as healing parts of the body without any medical treatment.No no no no no no no no no no no. Going without medical treatment for serious illnesses because of things like "faith healing" or doing "psychic surgery" is asking for death. These things don't work. They're very easy to test and they almost always show that, shockingly, getting cancer and not treating it makes you die. Sometimes it seems to work but those are cases of spontaneous remission. Even against totally unknown and seemingly incurable pathogens the body can sometimes get lucky and beat it. In the case of lighter illnesses, you'd get better without prayer or magic. "An untreated cold lasts 7 days and a treated one lasts a week.
Rezumi wrote...
That is because the information I've laid here are not structured accordingly. It takes time to properly convince a science person. It took me half a year sitting next to my classmate in 2005 before I was properly convinced by some personal proof. anâ‹…ecâ‹…dote
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3 years isn't what I'd call a short amount of time. Considering that 3 years is 1/6th of my lifetime. Sure my mates had "stories" to tell, like how seeing ghosts screwed his everyday life and how he saw this one dude die from a heart attack. But the information I took in were his random claims as how spirits act and all that. I refuse to believe that he has made up all of what he's claimed within the instances of when we talked without flinching throughout the year.
Being exposed to junk evidence for a long period of time should make you better at identifying it rather than making it more convincing. Ghost stories and legends and alternative medicine have been around for centuries and as of yet there hasn't been a shred of evidence for them. Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence. If after someone introduced the idea of ghosts they presented a captured ghost then it wouldn't be pseudoscience. But because ghosts have been around for hundreds of years in one form or another without corroboration they're almost certainly fake.
Another point is that not everyone has to be faking to be telling you something insanely wrong. Lots of people that believe weird things do so because it's comforting to them. I'm not religious because I see it something unnecessary in my life because I'm fine with not having an afterlife. Your friend gets some comfort from believing in ghosts so he can take it on faith without evidence to convince him. Or he's seeing things that he can't explaining and went for something simple.
Rezumi wrote...
I know my references are not creditable as there are no signs of reliability upon them. The point is that there are others like me who are studying in order to understand. Of course I don't record them on paper like people who are scientists.If they're not credible then they're worthless. When what you say has nothing attached to it to convince anyone then you aren't someone people will listen to. I personally can't think of any website that is parascientific in nature that is worth even pretending to read since people that try and apply good science to these sort of things either start faking or doing other kinds of research so that they can make money.
I tried finding some stuff on Cyril but since he's most active in Japan it's hard to find relevant statements from him in English. He seems a lot like Criss Angel though. And while he's not entirely forthright about it, Criss Angel doesn't present himself to have magic powers. He won't discourage belief or always come right out and say that he's an illusionist but he never claims to have psychic powers.
Obviously, I'm not trained at doing magic but I do know what to look for for some tricks and I also know that unless you know exactly what's going on beforehand, a video (particularly of youtube qaulity) is no good for doing an analysis of tricks. I will say upfront that I don't know how Cyril does his illusions but I can safely say he isn't doing things that you or I couldn't do with enough training. And no, not in telekinesis.
Rezumi wrote...
Your statement agreed upon what I've said. That is, normal people judged on the spot based on what they already know without investigation.Precisely. You said it was natural to be skeptical. Often people don't have any experience with medicine, astrophysics, or what have you and are convinced by incredibly flimsy evidence because they have no real reason not to believe what people tell them. It's natural to stick to what you think you know or want to believe but not to be skeptical. Back when we were hunter-gatherers being skeptical was dangerous, but now that survival and success is based on how much bullshit you can dodge it's something everyone should learn to be.
I'm really not trying to just be mean to you. I'm not swearing, insulting you, or telling you you're wrong without any intellectual effort on my part. I just see that while ghosts and such may be true (as it's 100% impossible to prove that they do not, have not, and will not exist) you believe them based on poor logic.
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I'm almost entirely agreeing with blind_assassin here, and the only reason I wouldn't 100% is because of entirely curcumstancial and unsubstantiated things, and also a firmly held belief that there is no such thing as absolutely impossible. But you can get damned close.
The human mind is pretty powerfull; in most cases where someone claims some sort of "spiritual" healing, it's either bullshit to begin with, or something that only worked or seemed to work because a the person who was ill believed it would. There are certain cases of illness that are caused or made more severe because of a person's mental state.
As for your friend, he may well have believed what he was telling you, and just been crazy, or was just a good liar.
I could tell you entirely crazy things that may or may not be true, but I could certainly give the apearance that I beleived them to be true.
Not to discourage your curiosity, however. Just don't take things for face value.
The human mind is pretty powerfull; in most cases where someone claims some sort of "spiritual" healing, it's either bullshit to begin with, or something that only worked or seemed to work because a the person who was ill believed it would. There are certain cases of illness that are caused or made more severe because of a person's mental state.
As for your friend, he may well have believed what he was telling you, and just been crazy, or was just a good liar.
I could tell you entirely crazy things that may or may not be true, but I could certainly give the apearance that I beleived them to be true.
Not to discourage your curiosity, however. Just don't take things for face value.
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mmm... only problem I had was the fact that I literary saw 1 full transparent/glow-ish shape of a human being, 5 metres infront of me last year. In other words... I cant lie to myself and say... Its my imagination. You can't assume that everyone's a liar either. I've mentioned two of four people. They don't know one another(2 overseas.. other 2 from dif schools), but they had the same type of "lies" that they claim to see. I don't think they're media intoxicated with their ideas.
Had several other experiences of abnormality. One was when me and a mate overseas tried telepathy. Another was when I heard a girl laugh "inside my head" and saw a flash of white shadow zoom past me at night. Can't be someone runnin past me 1m away to my right, then disappearing in the middle of the road.. Stories are stories though :/
I could say more towards blind_assassin, but when I think about my replies, there's no way I could convince someone who's very intellect. Great that he has a well informed mind. But I hope he's very flexible in ways of thinking if he himself accidentally finds something unexplainable even when studied upon. But then again, I doubt he'd take interest.
I've talked to many people and I can say that only about 20% of the people I talked to thought there's some sort of truth behind what I've said.
I like sharing stuff that's very outside the box. Even though that 80% of the people denied it in an instant, I still like finding people who're enthusiastic upon hearing something that they've probably never heard of or thought of before.
I don't mind people who disagree upon hearing them. Afterall, many people believed the earth was flat back then.
All in all, I reckon there's atleast one race of aliens that have reached the stage of galactic exploration. My poor logic tells me that this is realistic, since humans already chucked space shuttles out of earth. My point of adding my spiritual poop with aliens is that the currently used commication with the aliens were psychics. I hope a more practical and more believable approach of communication with them come to us soon (if aliens are here).
Wouldn't you agree that the idea of talking to a completely different race of intellectual beings, is an exciting wishful thinking?
Had several other experiences of abnormality. One was when me and a mate overseas tried telepathy. Another was when I heard a girl laugh "inside my head" and saw a flash of white shadow zoom past me at night. Can't be someone runnin past me 1m away to my right, then disappearing in the middle of the road.. Stories are stories though :/
I could say more towards blind_assassin, but when I think about my replies, there's no way I could convince someone who's very intellect. Great that he has a well informed mind. But I hope he's very flexible in ways of thinking if he himself accidentally finds something unexplainable even when studied upon. But then again, I doubt he'd take interest.
I've talked to many people and I can say that only about 20% of the people I talked to thought there's some sort of truth behind what I've said.
I like sharing stuff that's very outside the box. Even though that 80% of the people denied it in an instant, I still like finding people who're enthusiastic upon hearing something that they've probably never heard of or thought of before.
I don't mind people who disagree upon hearing them. Afterall, many people believed the earth was flat back then.
All in all, I reckon there's atleast one race of aliens that have reached the stage of galactic exploration. My poor logic tells me that this is realistic, since humans already chucked space shuttles out of earth. My point of adding my spiritual poop with aliens is that the currently used commication with the aliens were psychics. I hope a more practical and more believable approach of communication with them come to us soon (if aliens are here).
Wouldn't you agree that the idea of talking to a completely different race of intellectual beings, is an exciting wishful thinking?
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In Al Quran Allah said that He makes all living thing in the sky and the earth... Some of the people said that the meaning of the sky is outer space... so... yes i believe that alien is real somewhere... but our tech is still too primitive too found them.... (i won't be surprised if some of the alien is same like human)
sorry 4 the bad english
(edit) oh yeah the alien is not always in form of outer space living thing you know? there are real alien in outer space in form of bacteria.... do you know what made the entire life in the earth??? The God Power and Little tiny bacteria that evolve... where the bacteria came from?? many theories i found and i think the most right is Meteor and Comet! why?? if you see the dust there are many bacteria in that dust.... same as the outer space the bacteria is live in dust that stick to a comet/meteor...
why it could be survived in such harsh condition??? well the fact is i don't know about that too... but there are many bacteria live in lava and north pole... so my theories is they're hibernating! so they can survive until the comet/asteroid crash a planet and then the bacteria goes off from the comet and start a new life on the planet... if this theory correct.. so it's not impossible to found an alien in outer space... it was an evolve from the bacteria right???
if i not right please give me the right one....
sorry 4 the bad english
(edit) oh yeah the alien is not always in form of outer space living thing you know? there are real alien in outer space in form of bacteria.... do you know what made the entire life in the earth??? The God Power and Little tiny bacteria that evolve... where the bacteria came from?? many theories i found and i think the most right is Meteor and Comet! why?? if you see the dust there are many bacteria in that dust.... same as the outer space the bacteria is live in dust that stick to a comet/meteor...
why it could be survived in such harsh condition??? well the fact is i don't know about that too... but there are many bacteria live in lava and north pole... so my theories is they're hibernating! so they can survive until the comet/asteroid crash a planet and then the bacteria goes off from the comet and start a new life on the planet... if this theory correct.. so it's not impossible to found an alien in outer space... it was an evolve from the bacteria right???
if i not right please give me the right one....
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dragonide wrote...
In Al Quran Allah said that He makes all living thing in the sky and the earth... Some of the people said that the meaning of the sky is outer space... so... yes i believe that alien is real somewhere... but our tech is still too primitive too found them....Religion is a nice source of info put in there. But remember, all humans had no religion before any holy book was written. So keep your mind open for any possibility.
dragonide wrote...
i won't be surprised if some of the alien is same like humanAlso, I've read somewhere that there are human-like aliens in the our galactic family. Just to support you here.
dragonide wrote...
if i not right please give me the right one....I don't think there's a real correct answer. I agree with your theory as to how life might begin at various solar systems.
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There are several possible explainations for these things outside of the paranormal. But, I don't mean to argue with you about it. In such matters that are...unsubstantial and based on personal experiance and account, arguing about it is pointless; if someone believes in something, you aren't going to change their mind about it by saying anything to them. It's not the same as arguing a scientific fact or anything, something you could show proof of one way or another.
But having a stubborn belief in something is the same as having a stubborn belief against it. So, at least realise that it might not be true as much as you would want someone who does not share your beliefs to realise there is any chance it might be.
Also, even if an experiance might incline me to agree with you, I, personally, cannot trust that experiance. Especially any from my younger years. It's not close to being as bad as it used to be for me, but maybe you have a similar problem, and are basiclly just...crazy.
But having a stubborn belief in something is the same as having a stubborn belief against it. So, at least realise that it might not be true as much as you would want someone who does not share your beliefs to realise there is any chance it might be.
Also, even if an experiance might incline me to agree with you, I, personally, cannot trust that experiance. Especially any from my younger years. It's not close to being as bad as it used to be for me, but maybe you have a similar problem, and are basiclly just...crazy.
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you know i saw a UFO myself or was that just my imagination? cuz its pretty far a way and it looks like a shooting star thats circling around the sky when i was in high school and i also believe that we are not the only ones living in this whole entire universe cuz its just too big for only us to live on it
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If you've seen or read "Contact", it presents some very interesting arguments towards the existence, or at least the statistical possibility of aliens. It's very convincing.
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lemiel wrote...
If you've seen or read "Contact", it presents some very interesting arguments towards the existence, or at least the statistical possibility of aliens. It's very convincing.By Carl Sagan? I found it as an audio book and found it interesting. I liked his harder science material more though. If you just want a lot of general science information his "Cosmos" series is fantastic. A lot of it is around Grade 11-12 level but it's like a science version of "Planet Earth"; something to just chill out and admire rather than take notes on.
Rezumi wrote...
mmm... only problem I had was the fact that I literary saw 1 full transparent/glow-ish shape of a human being, 5 metres infront of me last year. In other words... I cant lie to myself and say... Its my imagination.While it might be wrong to believe that it was your imagination you're taking the logic too far in jumping to ghost. Obviously I couldn't tell you what it was. Speaking just within the technical realm of possibility it could have been a poorly aimed holograph from an alien spaceship. But just become something can't be proved or disproved doesn't mean it's a logical assumption.
Rezumi wrote...
You can't assume that everyone's a liar either. I've mentioned two of four people. They don't know one another(2 overseas.. other 2 from dif schools), but they had the same type of "lies" that they claim to see. I don't think they're media intoxicated with their ideas.That's entirely true. I already said that presenting ghost stories as fact doesn't require one to lie. For regular people it's more likely an honest belief. People that spend their lives selling books on how to detect ghosts have much much much more to gain by ly.ing (though they are no less capable of just being serious believers)
Rezumi wrote...
Had several other experiences of abnormality. One was when me and a mate overseas tried telepathy. Another was when I heard a girl laugh "inside my head" and saw a flash of white shadow zoom past me at night. Can't be someone runnin past me 1m away to my right, then disappearing in the middle of the road.. Stories are stories though :/These all have potential rational explanations. Just as a totally cursory attempt to explain them: you and your friend both like similar things and thought of something easy to test telepathy, you heard a noise that sounded like a laugh in the distance and mistook it for being in your head, and someone with a light on a bike went past really fast. I'm not saying their even close to right, just that there are plenty of potentially rational explanations.
Rezumi wrote...
I could say more towards blind_assassin, but when I think about my replies, there's no way I could convince someone who's very intellect. Great that he has a well informed mind. But I hope he's very flexible in ways of thinking if he himself accidentally finds something unexplainable even when studied upon. But then again, I doubt he'd take interest.I will admit that I'm someone most people would call "smart" but I'm just a dude that says "Wait a minute..." when I'm presented with something strange. When I first heard Neil deGrasse Tyson say "Scientists don't know what 96% of the Universe is made of" I obviously responded with "How the hell is that even possible?" and did some research. Likewise, when someone says "Prayer cures cancer" I'll question it and do some research. I'm completely open to learning new knowledge or even having something I thought I knew proven wrong. Provided that credible literature is published on it or if there's big budget research being done I'll look into anything I hear.
Rezumi wrote...
I've talked to many people and I can say that only about 20% of the people I talked to thought there's some sort of truth behind what I've said. I like sharing stuff that's very outside the box. Even though that 80% of the people denied it in an instant, I still like finding people who're enthusiastic upon hearing something that they've probably never heard of or thought of before.
I don't mind people who disagree upon hearing them. Afterall, many people believed the earth was flat back then.
I'm actually surprised you haven't found more believers. Lots of people believe in these sort of things (to my dismay) and they aren't too hard to find.
I would like to say though that I'm not rejecting what you're saying out of hand. I started off harsh but it was inappropriate of me but otherwise I've not said "That's wrong and you are wrong" because I can't say with 100% certainty that you are. As far as I can know at this point there is no such thing as ghosts, psychic powers, aliens on earth, or any of the other topics mentioned but those things may actually change or simply be proven to exist despite the current evidence.
As a side note, belief in a flat earth among smart people goes back a long ways. Eratosthenes (a Greek philosopher from 240 BCE) proved the Earth was round by measuring the length of shadows in different cities. People only started saying "The earth is not round, it is flat" about 500 years ago. The Flat Earth Society has some pretty hilarious justifications for their beliefs but they're pretty much the oldest movement promoting flat earth theory.
As a side note to my side note, belief that people thought the earth was flat until Copernicus (or was it Galileo who was supposed to have discerned it?) proposed the idea was something I took as true and was happy to have disproved.
Rezumi wrote...
All in all, I reckon there's atleast one race of aliens that have reached the stage of galactic exploration. My poor logic tells me that this is realistic, since humans already chucked space shuttles out of earth. My point of adding my spiritual poop with aliens is that the currently used commication with the aliens were psychics. I hope a more practical and more believable approach of communication with them come to us soon (if aliens are here). But if they were here wouldn't they be at least able to prove their existence? If they could only communicate through psychic means then they could at least walk into Times Square and flail around in front of people so that we would try to talk to them.
Rezumi wrote...
Wouldn't you agree that the idea of talking to a completely different race of intellectual beings, is an exciting wishful thinking?Absolutely! That's why I support the goal of SETI. They're accredited astronomers using the best human means to find alien life to communicate with. The odds against finding anything in anything less than a million years is unfortunately very low but if there's even a .0000001% chance it's worth it. It's basically the biggest scientific discovery that could ever be made.
As a final point, you really seem to have a lot of confidence problems with your beliefs. You're clearly not anti-scientific or distrustful of people but you've taken on a lot of quirky beliefs. If you have so little trust in your logic and sources then why do you stick to them? If you're trying your best to prove them to yourself through experiments or something then more power to you but simply believing in something as strange ghosts without convincing yourself fully seems odd.
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blind_assassin wrote...
I'm actually surprised you haven't found more believers. Lots of people believe in these sort of things (to my dismay) and they aren't too hard to find.The sort of people I'm looking for are those who have constant experience of seeing paranormals. I can find alot of believers among sites that specialise in paranormals, but I wouldn't find any who're mediums there. I think the majority of mediums prefer to live their life as normal as possible. So it's difficult to find them since you have to talk from person to person.
blind_assassin wrote...
Rezumi wrote...
All in all, I reckon there's atleast one race of aliens that have reached the stage of galactic exploration. My poor logic tells me that this is realistic, since humans already chucked space shuttles out of earth. My point of adding my spiritual poop with aliens is that the currently used commication with the aliens were psychics. I hope a more practical and more believable approach of communication with them come to us soon (if aliens are here). But if they were here wouldn't they be at least able to prove their existence? If they could only communicate through psychic means then they could at least walk into Times Square and flail around in front of people so that we would try to talk to them.
If they suddenly pop out, people might see them as hostile, some sort of show, or even panic and cause riots. From what I've concluded, the aliens who're currently observing us are still unsure of how we would react.
Believe it or not... one psychic claimed that they were planning on showing up with their ships in our skies on October 14th, 2008. Unfortunately... the psychic said that they suddenly stopped as to see how we would react. This would separate those who just want to see them (nonbelievers), and those who took part of their exercise. Ie. grow in spirituality and love. Alot of nonsense here and there. But Blossom Goodchild, (the psychic) isn't the only one to be able to communicate to them (apparently).
Now, I'm not sure what's going on with the Federation of Light, which is what blossom said that the aliens named themselves as. If they're really up there, I reckon they're planning on a fixed set up instead of causing more upheavals in our society. Thousands of people were disappointed in the no show of aliens, and blossom got a huge hit of haters :/. Feel sorry for the woman.
Even so, I expect nothing from the aliens for now.
blind_assassin wrote...
As a final point, you really seem to have a lot of confidence problems with your beliefs. You're clearly not anti-scientific or distrustful of people but you've taken on a lot of quirky beliefs. If you have so little trust in your logic and sources then why do you stick to them? If you're trying your best to prove them to yourself through experiments or something then more power to you but simply believing in something as strange ghosts without convincing yourself fully seems odd.Oh no, I have taken in the beliefs to a point that I see them as factual. But being like this, I have to watch out what I'm saying. Some of the stuff I've heard goes past my own safety of surviving. Not surviving life, surviving after it. But I believe that I'm somewhat safer now that I know what to watch out. Even saying this is lame right? I can't say anything more.
Currently, I have no intentions of proving that spirits exist n stuff. I don't see life as precious as others. So I don't follow that pattern where achieving something great in life is awesome. I'm sure there are people on that track in wanting to prove their existence already.
I'm already too far in these beliefs that I can no longer turn back into the way you see the world. The only time I'd be proven wrong is when I die. I believe that the most simplest truth comes to you when you die. Eg. if I suddenly die, if I see myself standing here, and I see my dead body, then that's enough to prove myself. If I die then... nothing? then that's the end of the story.
But I think there's more than just an end of life. When my grandfather passed away, 2 nights before he's gone, me and my aunt stood to his right by the hospital bed. He suddenly opened his eyes n looked straight infront of him. He pointed and said... "Who's that?". It was damn freaky when he said it. At this point, religious people would say it's the soul taker or something. But then others might say that he's hallucinating and since he's old, he's just spouting nonsense. To support that this happens more than just random luck. My other aunt had cancer, and she asked who was this stranger.
I don't know what to make of it. Too many possibilities.
I have youtube links to support SETI's goal if you're interested. The vid's about an hour n a bit long. Testimonials from ranking officers from the military, area 51, nasa employees, etc etc. Here's the link to the youtube user's vids. It's a project from a group I've never heard of. It's probably because they had to keep the project secretive to keep their people safe from underground governments.
I think the videos there are reliable. But still nothing of hard proof. Here's the first part of the vid if you're too lazy lol.
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Crossfinger wrote...
I do believe in aliens, because the chance that we are the only intellectual beings in the entire universe and that we JUST have the right planet to live on... I don't think that's possible. I think that somewhere in the universe another intelligent lifeform is around, maybe they already know of our existance, maybe not. Do you believe in them? And what do you think?
I think the exact same thing.
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There is SOOO much planets in the space that it should be more life there. Not only in earth.
So I believe in alians ^^
So I believe in alians ^^