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So about a week ago Loli was banned in the UK. Now I am aware that even when content is deleted from my computer it is still present there until the space it occupied is overwritten.
Hypothetically speaking, this is of course make believe and in no way the truth. Say I had a fair few loli pictures on my computer, and they were saved before the date in which loli became illegal, am I in the safe or do I need to delete them.
Also what happens when I do delete them but they are still present on my computer.
Can I still view explicit images as mentioned, online without actually downloading them?
Hypothetically speaking, this is of course make believe and in no way the truth. Say I had a fair few loli pictures on my computer, and they were saved before the date in which loli became illegal, am I in the safe or do I need to delete them.
Also what happens when I do delete them but they are still present on my computer.
Can I still view explicit images as mentioned, online without actually downloading them?
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The law most likely is about the possession of these materials, not obtaining them, so I doubt you would be safe just because of that.
Just use some special soft to overwrite the sectors. But it should not be necessary most of the time.
And viewing online could be monitored by your ISP and whatnot.
I am in no way a lawyer or have any eduction on the UK legal system. My mother is a lawyer (another country), so i've been exposed to various legal procedures from an early age, which gives me some basic logic.
My advice: keep all your illegal stuff in an encrypted format (use TrueCrypt or something).
Also what happens when I do delete them but they are still present on my computer.
Just use some special soft to overwrite the sectors. But it should not be necessary most of the time.
And viewing online could be monitored by your ISP and whatnot.
I am in no way a lawyer or have any eduction on the UK legal system. My mother is a lawyer (another country), so i've been exposed to various legal procedures from an early age, which gives me some basic logic.
My advice: keep all your illegal stuff in an encrypted format (use TrueCrypt or something).
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I believe you are speaking of the "Coroners and Justice Bill".
According to the language I found (I haven't really looked for the exact language) possession of child pornography extends to to include non†‘photographic images. Which means, being in the possession of loli or shota in the U.K. will get you thrown into jail. The date in which you downloaded them is irrelevant as simple possession is illegal now.
My suggestion if you decide not to keep it is do a simple system defrag on your computer a few times. It overwrites the old location a few times with either blank information or gibberish (i forget which).
Anyways, if you're curious here is the bill.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmbills/169/09169.1-6.html
According to the language I found (I haven't really looked for the exact language) possession of child pornography extends to to include non†‘photographic images. Which means, being in the possession of loli or shota in the U.K. will get you thrown into jail. The date in which you downloaded them is irrelevant as simple possession is illegal now.
My suggestion if you decide not to keep it is do a simple system defrag on your computer a few times. It overwrites the old location a few times with either blank information or gibberish (i forget which).
Anyways, if you're curious here is the bill.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmbills/169/09169.1-6.html
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I'm not up to date with what's exactly is going on in the UK but I'm guessing the police won't just drop by for a visit and take a look at what's on your pc unless you're involved in something pretty bad. So i wouldn't worry so much, stupid laws are supposed to be broken.
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Koyori wrote...
I'm not up to date with what's exactly is going on in the UK but I'm guessing the police won't just drop by for a visit and take a look at what's on your pc unless you're involved in something pretty bad. So i wouldn't worry so much, stupid laws are supposed to be broken.agreed....
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I hate my country. Making stupid laws that criminalise people and don't protect anyone. Parliament seriously needs to get its priorities straight.
In the mean time, imma go fap to some loli
In the mean time, imma go fap to some loli
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YOU sir, are a criminal and the government should tail and lock you up, for destroying the world while fapping to loli!... now, seriously...
Pretty much this... I highly doubt anyone will knock your door down to see wether you got loli in your PC or not. If I were you, I'd keep my precious stash of loli, and all things hentai:P
Koyori wrote...
I'm not up to date with what's exactly is going on in the UK but I'm guessing the police won't just drop by for a visit and take a look at what's on your pc unless you're involved in something pretty bad. So i wouldn't worry so much, stupid laws are supposed to be broken.Pretty much this... I highly doubt anyone will knock your door down to see wether you got loli in your PC or not. If I were you, I'd keep my precious stash of loli, and all things hentai:P
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Meh you'll only get your harddrive searched if you get arrested or are a witness for something big like murder and even if you have loli as long as The girl,at the very minimium, could be seen to be about 16 then you're alright. But I doubt you will get searched kinda like illegally downloading stuff.
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I'm going to be worrying about this all the time though. I'm currently studying to become a teacher, so if I get busted I'll get put on a perv list and never get a job teaching.
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No worries...just burn your loli material to a DVD or into one of your harddrive and keep it in a secure place...
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I might look into TrueCrypt or some other encrypting software, but I'm lazy and I would rather spend my time adding more Hentai to my collection.
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Lawl your hardrive will only get searched if you're a witness or suspect in murder, fraud or a computer based crime.
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willy191 wrote...
Just compress them into a .rar file and put some random name...If someone actually takes away his computer for suspicion of pedophilia or w/e they're calling this i don't think that will help, unless they fail at their job, same for crypting.
If it's really bothering you so much and you don't want to stop doing it here's my suggestion: Get a external drive, find a really good hiding place, and hide it when necessary.
We have a similar law over here and i could get quite some jailtime for the contents on my computer, Funny enough noone has ever been convicted for having loli hentai. Sometime when they bust pedophiles they find this stuff alongside their childporn but that's about it, and i guess that's the reason why they want to ban it as well, the pedos like it so it must be bad.
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japsa wrote...
I'm going to be worrying about this all the time though. I'm currently studying to become a teacher, so if I get busted I'll get put on a perv list and never get a job teaching.This made me lol. You don't have to worry about anything, no one is gonna search your PC for loli. Just don't let it slip to the wrong people, so best keep it to yourself, seeing how lots of people are retarded and think you support pedophilia if you fap to doujins, which aren't even real.
Besides, everyone is a perv, wether they admit it or not, and if you eye an underage girl in your future class, just wait 'till she's 18:D...
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I wouldn't even bother with TrueCrypt or any shit like that. It's not like they'll bother checking your computer. Just keep it to yourself and you'll do fine. If I had to guess, it'll probably just one of those "don't ask, don't tell" situations." Just put it all in a usb or something if you're really that nervous.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
I'm sorry but most of the advice so far has been rather irresponsible.
You're breaking a law and due your circumstances if found out you'd be in considerable danger.
If I were you I'd strongly consider giving it up.
I know it's a hard choice, and that the actual "chance" of getting caught is law, but given what's at stake I'd still ponder the matter.
If you decide not to give up your hobby, the least you can do is use a reliable method, that gives you an out. Truecrypt has already been mentioned. It has a features that allows the creation a hidden volume volume. You create a "plausible partition - fill it up with sensitive, but legal data, so the encryption will be justified - and your "real" data will be still protected among the noise.
The problem with using external devices - DVDs/eHDDs is that they'd be your single point of failure. If they're ever found, you're in trouble. If you encrypted them then using them would be very bothersome in day to day operation and you'd always have unencrypted data on your system that you'd have to clean up.
Regardless what has been said, "decrypting" a scheme like Truecrypt is *not* a trivial affair. It does provide genuine security, it provides a fallback option, and finally you still have a last fall back option of erasing your stuff. Destroying encrypted data is a lot easier than non-encypted. Using a tool like Eraser will get rid of it much faster (less overwrites or randomization is required to make encrypted data unrecoverable than unencrypted).
You might also keep something like this on hand:
Darik's Boot And Nuke
This is a bootable floppy/USB/CD utility that will automatically destroy *everything* on your computer if booted.
You're breaking a law and due your circumstances if found out you'd be in considerable danger.
If I were you I'd strongly consider giving it up.
I know it's a hard choice, and that the actual "chance" of getting caught is law, but given what's at stake I'd still ponder the matter.
If you decide not to give up your hobby, the least you can do is use a reliable method, that gives you an out. Truecrypt has already been mentioned. It has a features that allows the creation a hidden volume volume. You create a "plausible partition - fill it up with sensitive, but legal data, so the encryption will be justified - and your "real" data will be still protected among the noise.
The problem with using external devices - DVDs/eHDDs is that they'd be your single point of failure. If they're ever found, you're in trouble. If you encrypted them then using them would be very bothersome in day to day operation and you'd always have unencrypted data on your system that you'd have to clean up.
Regardless what has been said, "decrypting" a scheme like Truecrypt is *not* a trivial affair. It does provide genuine security, it provides a fallback option, and finally you still have a last fall back option of erasing your stuff. Destroying encrypted data is a lot easier than non-encypted. Using a tool like Eraser will get rid of it much faster (less overwrites or randomization is required to make encrypted data unrecoverable than unencrypted).
You might also keep something like this on hand:
Darik's Boot And Nuke
This is a bootable floppy/USB/CD utility that will automatically destroy *everything* on your computer if booted.
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tswarthog
The Iconoclast
I would just give it up personally, but if you rely are desperate you could always find one of those visual novels that have the bullshit "everyone in this visual novel is over the age of 18" statement even though they are not. That would be the only legal way I could see getting around the law.
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Why aren't they doing crime prevention and reeducation instead of just catching perps after the damage is done?
By the way... making laws that'll label people pedophiles when they haven't hurt any child is not preventing crime. If anything, you're encouraging those who were arrested under the law to actually do it, since their life is already wrecked and they're supposedly sex offenders for having drawings. Won't they just say "fuck it all, I'm going down flaming?"
By the way... making laws that'll label people pedophiles when they haven't hurt any child is not preventing crime. If anything, you're encouraging those who were arrested under the law to actually do it, since their life is already wrecked and they're supposedly sex offenders for having drawings. Won't they just say "fuck it all, I'm going down flaming?"
